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Gavin D
24 March 2020 15:56:30
UK data past 24hrs

6,491 tests - 1,427 confirmed as positive (21.98%)
Quantum
24 March 2020 15:56:40

1427 new cases almost exactly in line with the model (1369 predicted) so curve sill being bent wrt confirmed cases.


No big jump yet.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Maunder Minimum
24 March 2020 15:57:02

News from Bangladesh:


"Sex workers from one of the world's largest brothels appealed to the Bangladesh government on Monday for emergency funding after a ban on customers to prevent the spread of coronavirus, Reuters reports.


More than 1,500 sex workers are based at the Daulatdia brothel, about 100 km west of Dhaka, which is one of about 12 officially sanctioned brothels in the South Asian country, and receives an estimated 5,000 customers every day.


The government on Friday announced the closure of the brothel - a series of shacks spread over a maze of alleyways - until at least April 5 but promised to give all of the sex workers a package of 30 kgs of rice, $25, and a freeze on rent."


- incredible that it was operating as recently as last Friday under the circumstances.


New world order coming.
Gooner
24 March 2020 15:58:53


+1,427 new cases (6,650 yesterday), +87 new deaths (335 yesterday)


OMG


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Well that's against expectations on here isn't it 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Maunder Minimum
24 March 2020 15:58:54


+1,427 new cases (6,650 yesterday), +87 new deaths (335 yesterday)


OMG


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Why the "OMG"? - thankfully, no surge and in line with expectations.


New world order coming.
Brian Gaze
24 March 2020 16:00:20


1427 new cases almost exactly in line with the model (1369 predicted) so curve sill being bent wrt confirmed cases.


No big jump yet.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


The positive rate looks high ~22%. The figures for England today are markedly worse than I was expecting. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Quantum
24 March 2020 16:00:27

3 day periodicity appearing quite robust now.


Again I have no idea why this is. Given only a slight increase in the number of tests today I can only guess that the worst parts of the UK all report on the same day (London?).


 


The model predicts 1447 cases tommorow but based on this 3 day periodicity I'm expecting a drop.


FYI the model does not account for this 3 day periodicity but it doesn't need to, it's a short term fluctuation that I don't care about that much with regards to the modelling. But if we do see a drop tommorow, that's why.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Heavy Weather 2013
24 March 2020 16:01:53


 


Why the "OMG"? - thankfully, no surge and in line with expectations.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


That's nearly 50% of positive cases in 4 days alone. The death rate is the highest by some margin. I suggest that's starting to surge in my book.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Justin W
24 March 2020 16:03:07


3 day periodicity appearing quite robust now.


Again I have no idea why this is. Given only a slight increase in the number of tests today I can only guess that the worst parts of the UK all report on the same day (London?).


 


The model predicts 1447 cases tommorow but based on this 3 day periodicity I'm expecting a drop.


FYI the model does not account for this 3 day periodicity but it doesn't need to, it's a short term fluctuation that I don't care about that much with regards to the modelling. But if we do see a drop tommorow, that's why.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Perhaps you could publish the model’s code here or provide a link to it.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Quantum
24 March 2020 16:05:11


 


Here is the latest JFF model data (larger image here: https://ibb.co/VTqjjJS)


I haven't changed the model parameters in three days. Note the 3 day periodicity in the actual data. Again I'm not sure why this is, but since it's only a short term fluctuation I'm not interested in attempting to model it.


 


Will the JFF model be wrong? Probably. I have no idea why we are not seeing exponential growth. The data coming out of the UK is just wierd. And it isn't a saturation thing either. Might try some kind of benford's law type analysis to see if there is any evidence of data manipulation going on.


Don't want to be all tin foil hat about this, but it is wierd.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Retron
24 March 2020 16:06:08


 


Well that's against expectations on here isn't it 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Not against mine! We've got another 10+ days of general rises to come, as I've kept saying. You can't mistake noise for the overall trend and I would expect the logarithmic curve to continue for several days yet.


Leysdown, north Kent
Quantum
24 March 2020 16:08:58


 


Perhaps you could publish the model’s code here or provide a link to it.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


It's extremely simple. The function looks like this:


 


Y= Aexp ( B(t-t0)**2 + C(t-t0)) + F


 


F is an unphysical parameter, I recommend keeping it at 0.


C is related to the initial R0, I set it at a point where it was clear exponential growth was happening.


B is what bends the function and allows R0 to decline over time. It should be negitive.


 


So really it's not much more than a gaussian type distribution that can be approximated as an exponential at certain points if B is small.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Maunder Minimum
24 March 2020 16:09:42


 


That's nearly 50% of positive cases in 4 days alone. The death rate is the highest by some margin. I suggest that's starting to surge in my book.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


The death rate is completely skewed for the reasons we have discussed - they are only testing those hospitalised, plus some others.


 


New world order coming.
picturesareme
24 March 2020 16:16:05


Just noticed that the Republic of Ireland has 1,125 cases, which at 228 cases per million is 2.5 times higher than the UK. Yet only 6 people have died, so the death rate is only 0.53%, nearly 10 times lower than the UK.


I can only assume, given that culturally ROI and UK are very similar, that they are doing much much more testing than here?


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


That 0.5% Is similar to the German 0.4%. Both are in the 0.5-1% range i read a UK expert expecting the top end death percentage to be.

Gooner
24 March 2020 16:17:55


 


Not against mine! We've got another 10+ days of general rises to come, as I've kept saying. You can't mistake noise for the overall trend and I would expect the logarithmic curve to continue for several days yet.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Correct Darren , you have been expecting a marked increase I will give you that 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Brian Gaze
24 March 2020 16:20:23

Not updated yet but the UK will be on a steeper trajectory again I think. 


https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest


 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Heavy Weather 2013
24 March 2020 16:20:49

To ensure those who absolutely-need-to-travel are able to safely I’m requesting the rail industry ask retired staff including signallers to assist in this great national effort to beat . No one should travel unless it's essential. Stay Home, Protect NHS, Save Lives!


___


If those individuals are retired are they not more likely to be in the 'At Risk' category?


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Brian Gaze
24 March 2020 16:24:45

There's a lot of speculation about an announcement on construction. Hopefully it will be at least partly shut down from tomorrow.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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speckledjim
24 March 2020 16:27:39
Just had a look at comparing the deaths in Spain and Italy. Spain is roughly a week behind Italy and up until 20/03 they were both pretty much in line. However, from then Spain has increased by a greater rate.
Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Sevendust
24 March 2020 16:35:59


There's a lot of speculation about an announcement on construction. Hopefully it will be at least partly shut down from tomorrow.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Not all sites are working. My daughters other half is a ground worker and is on 3 weeks enforced break.

Darren S
24 March 2020 16:42:12

My wife works for a small building company (house developments) in the Buckinghamshire area. Two of their sites have shut down already because the suppliers are closed and they didn't have the materials they need to continue.


So regardless of what the Government dictates, a lot of building sites will be grinding to a halt anyway.


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Gavin D
24 March 2020 16:45:11
83 new deaths in England +37 on yesterday with 27 of the deaths in London 21 of the deaths were at the London North West University Healthcare NHS Trust
Retron
24 March 2020 16:45:49
Oh, it's all kicking off down here - people using caravans as a cheap place to live are NOT happy, as they're being kicked out!

(They're generally HOLIDAY parks and when buying a caravan you have to give a postcode where you live - your main residence. What people have been doing is giving postcodes of parents, or aunts/uncles etc, then effectively living for 10 months of the year in a cheap caravan - and paying no council tax either. It looks like the chickens are coming home to roost...)

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/sheerness/news/stand-off-as-caravan-owners-refuse-to-quit-holiday-park-224398/ 

Leysdown, north Kent
Gavin D
24 March 2020 16:52:59

The patients who passed away were aged between 33 and 103 years old all were in vulnerable groups including those with underlying conditions.


A few of the hospitals/trusts with the highest cases are below



  • London North West University Healthcare NHS Trust - 21

  • Princess Alexandra Hospital - 7 

  • Manchester University NHS Foundation Trust - 4

  • University Hospitals of Leicester - 4

  • Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust - 4

Heavy Weather 2013
24 March 2020 16:53:29

Matt Hancock trying very hard to explain why we must adhere to the rules and stay at home, while failing miserable to address the issues surrounding construction. The advise in coming into direct conflict with reality.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.

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