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Caz
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Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:45:27 AM


Good Morning.....


Many who are self-employed will be hoping to discover today what level of support the Chancellor is able to provide. The problem then of course, as with other funding being offered, is how quickly the monies can be rolled out.....as with universal credit, another admin nightmare!  


Originally Posted by: llamedos 

Good morning Llamy!  Hopefully the self employed will be looked after!  They are mainly the small businesses that form the backbone of this country!    


As you say, all these new benefits will take a heck of a lot of sorting out.  Almost all the country will be entitled to one benefit or another and I daresay the benefits office is snowed under, not to mention short staffed due to self isolating.  I think we’ll all have to try and exercise a lot of patience!


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Caz
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Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:48:46 AM


 


It's the dog walkers.


Grrrrr


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

  Especially those who let their dogs off the lead and think it’s funny that their dog chases you!  Or those who have their extendable leads out to their full and cause you a tripping hazard. 


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Bertwhistle
Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:48:53 AM


 


Both of the East Kent nailbournes have risen for the first time since 2015 and are flowing strongly. In folklore, the Kent bournes are known as 'woewaters'


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


Perhaps these have only just been noticed as it's the first time folks have actually gone out for a walk. Lots of wet weather over last few months.


I'm sure aquifers are well recharged.


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Heavy Weather 2013
Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:49:29 AM
Has anyone had a deep dive into the legislation that was passed yesterday.


There is a section around emergency volunteer leave that would be unpaid by employer but covered by the government.
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Justin W
Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:50:12 AM


 


 


Perhaps these have only just been noticed as it's the first time folks have actually gone out for a walk. Lots of wet weather over last few months.


I'm sure aquifers are well recharged.


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


They have both been running in parts since February. I've been watching them assiduously as I find their appearances and summer disappearances fascinating.


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Gooner
Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:52:23 AM


 


. The police are stopping people from working.  E.g i saw that a range of contractors had been stopped by police and told to go home around here. It included builders, window and door fitters , handymen etc. 


The police response in each area may dictate what lockdown actually means.


Originally Posted by: Tim A 


But that's an infringement of rights as there has been no directive to close construction or manufacturing 


And I should add its not a lockdown , why do people insist on calling it that , its merely restrictions 


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Heavy Weather 2013
Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:53:11 AM


I live on the North Downs down a dead-end lane which peters out into a rutted byway. There are eight houses in the little community. Two of the houses have holiday lets which are now fully booked for the rest of the spring and early summer. The people coming are London escapees and all of them turn up and then start walking up and down the lane in large groups, oblivious to the risk of spreading the disease. Obviously, they are happy to be away from the risk of the city but I don't understand why this flight is allowed to continue. We clearly need checkpoints on the main routes out of the cities.


Anyway, we will probably close the lane with a manned barricade this week.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Too many Londoners are so selfish Justin. It infuriates me. Yesterday on my permitted exercise I saw a groups of 4 people queuing and walking together. You could just see that we’re eager to break the rules.


Equally, many people still grouping together in the outside gym parks.


The question now is whether London will be put into amore extreme lockdown. I have feeling this could happen from Friday.


Mark
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Ulric
Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:54:41 AM


I walk through town in the evening on my walk. By 8pm everything is shut and there are very few people anywhere which is nice 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Yes, much the same here. I'm using my observations of what is open/closed, footfall and traffic to gauge the progress of the situation. Very quiet last night.


Reports are starting to come in of hospitalisations and at leat one death of persons locally. It's important to keep up with the local gossip IMO.


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doctormog
Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:55:29 AM


 


They have both been running in parts since February. I've been watching them assiduously as I find their appearances and summer disappearances fascinating.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Me too. I almost see them as a form of living history leaving me picturing the “olden days” when such water courses ran freely and untamed by modern industrialisation or farming.


Nature is giving us another little reminder of the fact that regardless of our busy lives it goes on often unwatched and unnoticed.


Caz
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Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:59:09 AM

BTW regarding the discussion yesterday about driving somewhere for exercise, it looks like the official advice is that this is not allowed. Makes sense I suppose as otherwise people congregate at popular spots. Although it makes exercising less appealing if you live in a concrete jungle.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

If people were sensible about this and didn’t push it to the extreme, the issue wouldn’t have to be questioned!  We’d only drive to countryside if we lived in a concrete jungle and couldn’t walk there.  But sadly, people are simply selfish!


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Brian Gaze
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:01:39 AM
Neil Ferguson apparently has said UK deaths could be "radically lower" than 20000. Apparently this is based on new modelling.
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Caz
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Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:03:16 AM


I live on the North Downs down a dead-end lane which peters out into a rutted byway. There are eight houses in the little community. Two of the houses have holiday lets which are now fully booked for the rest of the spring and early summer. The people coming are London escapees and all of them turn up and then start walking up and down the lane in large groups, oblivious to the risk of spreading the disease. Obviously, they are happy to be away from the risk of the city but I don't understand why this flight is allowed to continue. We clearly need checkpoints on the main routes out of the cities.


Anyway, we will probably close the lane with a manned barricade this week.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

It’s odd that the bookings for holiday lets haven’t been cancelled. Driving to a holiday isn’t essential.  My sister had a holiday cottage in Wales booked for next week and that’s been cancelled.  You may find it’s a bit quieter than you expected. 


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Ulric
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:06:15 AM

Neil Ferguson apparently has said UK deaths could be "radically lower" than 20000. Apparently this is based on new modelling.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Given this government's record of publishing projections and reports, I think they'll actively suppress anything which doesn't paint a rosy picture.


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Brian Gaze
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:06:26 AM
Less positive is the news that antibody testing does not appear imminent. No date given because there is still a "lot of science to be done".
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Ulric
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:08:17 AM

Less positive is the news that antibody testing does not appear imminent. No date given because there is still a "lot of science to be done".

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yup. I reported a company who were advertising test kits for home use on Facebook. They claimed they had them ready for delivery. Their ads are gone now.


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Heavy Weather 2013
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:45 AM

Less positive is the news that antibody testing does not appear imminent. No date given because there is still a "lot of science to be done".

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


This is the problem. The media fell for the line from that minister hook, line and sinker.


The governments lack of coherent messaging and the late test results daily paints a chaotic and disjointed picture. 


Mark
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speckledjim
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:47 AM

Copied from previous thread

I’ve just noticed that the PHE figures published last night were not for a full 24hr period.

I’ve not seen that message before. I wonder if that applies to the deaths and tests or both. Very confusing to get a clear picture of what is happening.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


The death figures will never be completely accurate each day as they rely on each individual family allowing the release of the information for their loved one.


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Gandalf The White
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:12:46 AM

Neil Ferguson apparently has said UK deaths could be "radically lower" than 20000. Apparently this is based on new modelling.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I thought it was the same modelling but with the variables tweaked to reflect the restrictions that have been put in place?


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Maunder Minimum
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:12:48 AM


Interesting differences between Turkey and Greece. Not sure if its down to tesing, measures taken, population density,  or whatever


1st confirmed case for Turkey wasn't until 11th March, they are now 2433 confirmed cases and 59 deaths


Greece's 1st confirmed was 26th February, they are now 821 cases and 22 deaths.


 


 


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


Easily explained - Turkey was engaged in non-testing and a massive cover up for weeks, until they could no longer sustain it.


Of course, Turkey had a lot of cases all along - they do border places like Iran and Iraq where it was already out of control.


New world order coming.
speckledjim
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:13:32 AM


 


Too many Londoners are so selfish Justin. It infuriates me. Yesterday on my permitted exercise I saw a groups of 4 people queuing and walking together. You could just see that we’re eager to break the rules.


Equally, many people still grouping together in the outside gym parks.


The question now is whether London will be put into amore extreme lockdown. I have feeling this could happen from Friday.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I thought you were self isolating due to being in a vulnerable group?


Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Maunder Minimum
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:14:16 AM


 


The death figures will never be completely accurate each day as they rely on each individual family allowing the release of the information for their loved one.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Surely that cannot be right. A death is a statistic which can be collected regardless of family wishes, since it does not include any personal information.


New world order coming.
Maunder Minimum
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:15:48 AM


 


I thought you were self isolating due to being in a vulnerable group?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Plus, groups of four are permitted, if they are from the same household - that is the rule. Plenty of households have four family members.


New world order coming.
Heavy Weather 2013
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:18:19 AM


 


I thought you were self isolating due to being in a vulnerable group?


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

 


I am still going out for a run and ensuring that I am paying attention to where I am running.


Also, I didn’t receive a letter from the government. Reviewing that latest advice my condition surprisingly and happily doesn’t put me in the extreme category 


Mark
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Brian Gaze
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:18:26 AM


 


I thought it was the same modelling but with the variables tweaked to reflect the restrictions that have been put in place?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


On the radio it said new modelling but you could well be right. The level of ignorance among some MPs and radio presenters is surprisingly high. 


 


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Brian Gaze
Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:19:38 AM
Does anyone know how many tests were done yesterday? On LBC it said 9500 which means we are close to hitting the daily 10000 initial target: if that figure is correct and can be maintained.
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