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Northern Sky
28 March 2020 11:55:33


I don't want to put a damper on things:


Clinicians have long observed an association between excessive alcohol consumption and adverse immune-related health effects such as susceptibility to pneumonia. 


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4590612/


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I wonder what's defined as excessive? 

howham
28 March 2020 11:57:31
I think one difference in Italy and Spain is the close contact that people have, even with strangers. It's not uncommon to kiss strangers on the cheek. My wife is from Argentina (father is Italian) and it's the same there. I wouldn't be surprised if Argentina also got it badly for this reason although they did go into "cuarentena" comparatively early.
KevBrads1
28 March 2020 11:57:48

Richard Branson is coming in for a hammering on twitter


 



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28 March 2020 12:04:28
Apparently front line NHS staff will get the antibody test.

Question. We’re these not determined not to work. Understand the Spanish said they were useless.

Have we sourced a different batch.
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Ulric
28 March 2020 12:06:15


Sorry...for clarification:.


It [Imperial College]estimates that at its peak Britain will experience more than 250 deaths a day, far fewer than the 1,300 a day expected in Italy. The scientists’ best guess for the total number of deaths is 5,700 in Britain, compared with fewer than 4,000 in China. They expect 28,000 deaths in Italy and that this will be overtaken by Spain, which on its present trajectory could suffer 46,000.


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Those figures are highly implausible IMO given the rate of increase and the current numbers.


5700 deaths in total implies infection rates in the general population which I simply do not find credible.

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
NickR
28 March 2020 12:06:22


 


I have finally got around to racking the 40 gallons of grape, elderberry and blackberry wine I made three years ago. The 10 gallons of grape wine is pretty good, the elderberry is drinkable during an apocalypse and the blackberry will do once you’ve drunk enough of the other two!


Plus the one litre of distilled hooch I made from homebrew cider five years ago and then put oak chippings in really hits the spot! It is 72% alcohol! And, yes, I know that home distilling is illegal but those regulations do not apply in this part of the world. 


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


AKA sanitiser!

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Joe Bloggs
28 March 2020 12:08:02


 


I wonder what's defined as excessive? 


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


I’ve been drinking every single night since this crisis started unfolding. Nothing excessive and I’ve certainly not been drunk. 

However comfort food and alcohol is certainly helping me get through. I think as long as you’re having enough healthy additions such as fruit and veg then there’s no real issue with it. 


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NickR
28 March 2020 12:09:56


 


I’ve been drinking every single night since this crisis started unfolding. Nothing excessive and I’ve certainly not been drunk. 

However comfort food and alcohol is certainly helping me get through. I think as long as you’re having enough healthy additions such as fruit and veg then there’s no real issue with it. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


I stopped drinking almost entirely 3 years ago. I've not been tempted so far, but the kids seem determined to get through 6 months' of biscuits in 2 weeks!

Nick
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Joe Bloggs
28 March 2020 12:13:09


 


I stopped drinking almost entirely 3 years ago. I've not been tempted so far, but the kids seem determined to get through 6 months' of biscuits in 2 weeks!


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Absolutely fair enough. My biscuit intake has increased too!


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Maunder Minimum
28 March 2020 12:14:31


Sorry...for clarification:.


It [Imperial College]estimates that at its peak Britain will experience more than 250 deaths a day, far fewer than the 1,300 a day expected in Italy. The scientists’ best guess for the total number of deaths is 5,700 in Britain, compared with fewer than 4,000 in China. They expect 28,000 deaths in Italy and that this will be overtaken by Spain, which on its present trajectory could suffer 46,000.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-lockdown-is-on-course-to-reduce-total-death-rate-3gn7hfjzk


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


As I keep pointing out, the Chinese stats are entirely fictive.


Numbers infected would have been in the millions and deaths in the tens of thousands.


 https://time.com/5811222/wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll/


 

New world order coming.
Caz
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28 March 2020 12:23:34


 


I have finally got around to racking the 40 gallons of grape, elderberry and blackberry wine I made three years ago. The 10 gallons of grape wine is pretty good, the elderberry is drinkable during an apocalypse and the blackberry will do once you’ve drunk enough of the other two!


Plus the one litre of distilled hooch I made from homebrew cider five years ago and then put oak chippings in really hits the spot! It is 72% alcohol! And, yes, I know that home distilling is illegal but those regulations do not apply in this part of the world. 


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

  Sounds good!   When the Irish announced their pubs were closing, I was thinking about the stories of them making potcheen in their secret locations, that were never really secret due to the  smoke and the smell!  

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Caz
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28 March 2020 12:24:44


I normally send my man to Selfridges, but they've shut up shop in London.....bloody tragedy!


Originally Posted by: llamedos 

 Good-Oh!

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Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 12:25:28


 


Absolutely fair enough. My biscuit intake has increased too!


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Oddly, biscuits, Mars bars, crisps  (etc) don't seem to have been panic bought -  I was in the local shop for local people on Thursday and the shelves were still loaded with them !  Couldn't get any fresh fruit though  and there wasn't much fresh veg - managed to get some mushrooms to go this my steak though.


 


 

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Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 12:28:49


 


I stopped drinking almost entirely 3 years ago. I've not been tempted so far, but the kids seem determined to get through 6 months' of biscuits in 2 weeks!


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Ration them, Nick  - issue them  with an allocation of coupons each week

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Ulric
28 March 2020 12:30:59

Local facebookers report a pharmacy queue of over an hour in Tesco this morning!

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
NickR
28 March 2020 12:37:04


 


Oddly, biscuits, Mars bars, crisps  (etc) don't seem to have been panic bought -  I was in the local shop for local people on Thursday and the shelves were still loaded with them !  Couldn't get any fresh fruit though  and there wasn't much fresh veg - managed to get some mushrooms to go this my steak though.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


My folks are really struggling to get any food, let alone fresh, in Kent. No slots at all. They are >70 with underlying health conditions.


Meanwhile in Durham, there are numerous independent shops where you can order stuff. I had a search yesterday, found a local greengrocer, and have 40 quids' worth of fresh fruit and veg coming this afternoon!


Cheese and yoghurt are the things that are problematic. My yoghurt has run out. Cheese - got about 2 weeks' worth left. Could order fancy stuff but very expensive. Supermarket seems only place to get basic cheddar for the kids. Main issue with the yoghurt is that without it, it's hard to find something to eat my chia seeds with... the lot of the middle classes.

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Gandalf The White
28 March 2020 12:37:56


 


I stopped drinking almost entirely 3 years ago. I've not been tempted so far, but the kids seem determined to get through 6 months' of biscuits in 2 weeks!


Originally Posted by: NickR 


ROFL


Your comment reminds me of an amusing cartoon strip; might have been Peanuts. First picture: kids taking down the biscuit tin; 2nd picture: kids opening biscuit tin and looking glum; 3rd picture: word bubble "Why does mom buy these biscuits? She knows we don't like them."  4th picture: image of proverbial penny dropping....


😀

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Caz
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28 March 2020 12:38:56


Oddly, biscuits, Mars bars, crisps  (etc) don't seem to have been panic bought -  I was in the local shop for local people on Thursday and the shelves were still loaded with them !  Couldn't get any fresh fruit though  and there wasn't much fresh veg - managed to get some mushrooms to go this my steak though.


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 

I don’t buy biscuits, chocolate or crisps.  Although if I did buy a pack of chocolate digestives, hubby would eat half and hide the rest.  When it comes to chocolate, he’s like a pig with truffles.  We eat very healthily and we both like cooking and enjoy our food.  

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Bugglesgate
28 March 2020 12:39:46


Local facebookers report a pharmacy queue of over an hour in Tesco this morning!


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


 


I wonder what they are  all buying ?


Popped into  our local chemist a week or so ago  for some odds and sods for The Folks and  I was in a queue of 1 !  The woman behind the counter said she  had  received all kinds of bizarre enquires over the 'phone but she wouldn't elaborate - Could be some  Social media quack remedies are doing the rounds ?


 


 

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Saint Snow
28 March 2020 12:42:47


Richard Branson is coming in for a hammering on twitter


 




Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


 


Quite right, the tax-dodging tw*t.


I'm hoping that after this, and using the cash-starved NHS as a figurehead, there's a renewed campaign by tax justice groups to flag how millionaires and billionaires dodge paying their fair share of tax through use of offshoring, trusts and other loopholes.


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Saint Snow
28 March 2020 12:43:54


 


AKA sanitiser!


Originally Posted by: NickR 


 



Could make a fortune 


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Ulric
28 March 2020 12:46:42


I wonder what they are  all buying ?


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


It's the prescription counter. Patients are forbidden to visit our GP practice in person so the pharmacy there is also closed. All prescriptions are now being filled in tesco.


 

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Ulric
28 March 2020 12:48:01


Quite right, the tax-dodging tw*t.


I'm hoping that after this, and using the cash-starved NHS as a figurehead, there's a renewed campaign by tax justice groups to flag how millionaires and billionaires dodge paying their fair share of tax through use of offshoring, trusts and other loopholes.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Govt. help should definitely be denied to companies who do not pay UK tax.

To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Retron
28 March 2020 12:56:39


My folks are really struggling to get any food, let alone fresh, in Kent. No slots at all. They are >70 with underlying health conditions


Originally Posted by: NickR 


I placed an order with these guys yesterday - they still had plenty of slots:


https://shop.wattsfarms.co.uk/


They deliver within 30 miles of Aylesford, near Maidstone.


(They're a company which usually provides food to hotels, restaurants etc, so it's in large quanities - might be worth splitting an order thougjh, if your folks are friendly with their neighbours!)

Leysdown, north Kent
Retron
28 March 2020 13:02:47


I'm hoping that after this, and using the cash-starved NHS as a figurehead, there's a renewed campaign by tax justice groups to flag how millionaires and billionaires dodge paying their fair share of tax through use of offshoring, trusts and other loopholes.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


That's an interesting one. Not all millionaires dodge things by setting up trusts and offshoring, indeed I know a couple who don't. Similarly, I know of at least one that has set up a trust for their family, thus dodging tax. The others I'm not sure about.


(Remember, as of a couple of years ago at least, 20% of pensioners are millionaires!


"In contrast, the total wealth of people aged over 65 rose to an average of £1.1 million.")


 


 


 


 

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