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Justin W
09 April 2020 14:13:27


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 14:14:52


 


Suggests we should be using a moving average to represent it more accurately.


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


I agree but we should have been doing it for weeks. Changing now will only add to the confusion.


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The Beast from the East
09 April 2020 14:15:05


The editor of the Lancet doesn't hold back: Coronavirus is the greatest policy failure in a generation


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


King Boris has record approval ratings and millions "clapped" for his recovery last night


When he gets out of hospital, millions of women will want to reward his "bravery"


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Sevendust
09 April 2020 14:18:34


 


King Boris has record approval ratings and millions "clapped" for his recovery last night


When he gets out of hospital, millions of women will want to reward his "bravery"


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I was out in Alton at 8pm last night on my exercise walk and there was no clapping


 

llamedos
09 April 2020 14:21:57


 


King Boris has record approval ratings and millions "clapped" for his recovery last night


When he gets out of hospital, millions of women will want to reward his "bravery"


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

I do struggle sometimes understanding the point you're trying to make, and also how you can move from seemingly relevant and sensible comments to utter bollo x. We need to have a serious chat and I'll be pm ing you shortly.


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xioni2
09 April 2020 14:24:08


 


King Boris has record approval ratings and millions "clapped" for his recovery last night


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Actually his article criticises more the global response and the scientific response in the UK. 

NickR
09 April 2020 14:26:50


 


King Boris has record approval ratings and millions "clapped" for his recovery last night


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Pretty much every leader has record ratings right now - it's a fairly normal response to times of trouble: get behind the leader. Ratings in 6-12 motnhs are what counts.


Millions did NOT clap for his recovery last night.


 



When he gets out of hospital, millions of women will want to reward his "bravery"


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Stop being such a crass fckwit.


 


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NickR
09 April 2020 14:28:04


 


I was out in Alton at 8pm last night on my exercise walk and there was no clapping


 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


He's lying, and I think Jon will be contacting him.


That whole post was pitiful.


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Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 14:31:35

We're off! Hopefully. Could be yet another false start but this report seems to have a lot more credibility than some. 


Germany to carry out first large-scale antibody test for coronavirus


Guy Chazan in Berlin


Germany will be the first country in the world to carry out large-scale antibody testing for coronavirus, which will help show how many people are now immune to the disease.


Lothar Wieler, head of the Robert Koch Institute, announced details of three antibody tests: one of blood donations, one of 4 distinct areas that saw outbreaks of the virus, and a representative study of the broader population.


They will be carried out jointly by the Robert Koch Institute, the Institute for Virology of Charité Hospital in Berlin and the Helmholtz Centre for Infection Research in Braunschweig.


Dr Wieler said the aim was to find out how many Germans were immune to the virus. He added:


We'd like to know how large is the proportion of asymptomatic cases - that is people who were infected by the virus but didn't know it - and to assess how many people in Germany have died, so how high the mortality rate is.


Experts have argued that doing spot checks and randomised tests will be key in uncovering real infection rates for coronavirus, rather than relying on models which use data that can quickly become obsolete. So far, no country in the world has successfully implemented a nationwide antibody testing programme.


https://www.ft.com/content/55a136c0-05f1-39f4-b946-9e099dd05256


 


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Gavin D
09 April 2020 14:33:44

Some positive news from this doctor


 


 


 



doctormog
09 April 2020 14:40:37


The editor of the Lancet doesn't hold back: Coronavirus is the greatest policy failure in a generation


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


You could argue that the editor of the Lancet enabled the antivax movement and led to sizeable decrease in the MMR vaccine uptake.


I’m not his biggest fan. 


Phil G
09 April 2020 14:40:40

We get dodgy figures at the weekend, presumably the same will apply for the next four days due to the bank holiday?
Low figures for four days running won’t help the stay in message with the idiots.

Originally Posted by: John p 


For reaction's sake, makes you wonder if they should overstate the figures now and get more tighter controls in place so we could start to relax restrictions sooner. Pain before the gain!

xioni2
09 April 2020 14:55:38


You could argue that the editor of the Lancet enabled the antivax movement and led to sizeable decrease in the MMR vaccine uptake.


I’m not his biggest fan. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I don't know his history, but how come he survived in that post after that debacle? 

Caz
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09 April 2020 15:05:16

We get dodgy figures at the weekend, presumably the same will apply for the next four days due to the bank holiday?
Low figures for four days running won’t help the stay in message with the idiots.

Originally Posted by: John p 

I wonder how many people will actually take Bank Holiday seriously this year?  Nobody can go anywhere so they may as well work if they can.  I’ll be working from home over the Easter weekend. 


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Caz
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09 April 2020 15:14:00


 


I agree but we should have been doing it for weeks. Changing now will only add to the confusion.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It would give a clearer picture if we had a separate graph that showed the dates the deaths actually occurred.  There’s obviously varied lag rates due to autopsies and testing, which confuses the current picture. 


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speckledjim
09 April 2020 15:14:20


The number of new infections and hospital admissions are of more interest (not wishing to downplay the tragedy of the mounting death toll). I need to see Quantum's JFF model updated.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I wish we could get the data on hospital admissions as readily as the data on deaths. It’s a key measure that will determine when we can ease the restrictions 


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xioni2
09 April 2020 15:15:59


I wish we could get the data on hospital admissions as readily as the data on deaths. It’s a key measure that will determine when we can ease the restrictions 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Yes, it's the most reliable number and sadly the best predictor of the number of deaths. 

Caz
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09 April 2020 15:17:31


 


I was out in Alton at 8pm last night on my exercise walk and there was no clapping


 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

It was Monday night!  Beast’s lost a couple of days!


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Rob K
09 April 2020 15:17:43
My work (which I only joined less than three weeks ago) has announced it is furloughing some staff, on full pay (topping up the remaining 20%). My department is apparently too busy to be furloughed, just as well seeing as I left my previous job on Feb 29th so would have fallen through the cracks. Although I would have been quite happy with time off till the end of May on full pay!
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springsunshine
09 April 2020 15:20:18


I wonder how many people will actually take Bank Holiday seriously this year?  Nobody can go anywhere so they may as well work if they can.  I’ll be working from home over the Easter weekend. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


 


Being a chef, this easter given the current situation,is going to provide some relief as obviously am currently not working and will be the first easter in god knows how many years ive not worked. A  very stressful time usually second only to December and won`t be missing working this easter one bit!! If this lockdown had started the  same time in  November I and many other chef`s and others working in hospitality would have been very happy indeed.

David M Porter
09 April 2020 15:23:45


In news that will surprise nobody, with over 100 deaths and rising, Liverpool is emerging as a CV19 hotspot.


The UEFA decision to force the club to host 3000+ Madrid fans as CV19 infections in Spain (especially in Madrid) were beginning to surge was and is a disgrace. And the city is now paying the price.


 


https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/coronavirus-tracker-shows-liverpool-hotspot-18065093


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



At the time I thought it was totally absurd to allow that match to proceed, Saint. Prof John Ashton, who is a Liverpool fan, made reference to this when he appeared on Question Time the following night.  IIRC, Spanish domestic football was playing played behind closed doors for some time before then.


The following night, there were a few thousand German fans in Glasgow for the first leg of the Rangers v Bayer Leverkusen Europa tie which the Germans won 3-1 (this was Rangers last match before the shutdown). This was after German authorities had made the decision to now allow any fans to travel from Scotland to Germany the following week for the return leg.


UEFA has been as complacent in all this as any government has in this crisis.


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RobN
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09 April 2020 15:24:25


 


You could argue that the editor of the Lancet enabled the antivax movement and led to sizeable decrease in the MMR vaccine uptake.


I’m not his biggest fan. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


He certainly has a case to answer.


According to Wiki:


Horton defended his position by saying "I do not regret publishing the original Wakefield paper. Progress in medicine depends on the free expression of new ideas. I worked at the Royal Free from 1988 to 1990 and met him on many occasions. He is a committed, engaging, and charismatic clinician and scientist. He asks big questions about diseases - what are their ultimate causes? - and his ambition often brings quick and impressive results."


According to the NHS:


https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/ruling-on-doctor-in-mmr-scare/


 


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Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 15:27:40

Better news from the USA:


Fauci: US deaths may only reach 60,000
The death toll from the coronavirus outbreak in the US may be as low as 60,000, less than half what was initially predicted, the country’s top infectious disease expert has said.


Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the effect of social-distancing measures had prompted him to revise his projections.


“The real data are telling us it is highly likely we are having a definite positive effect by the mitigation things that we’re doing, this physical separation,” Dr Fauci said in an interview with NBC on Thursday.


Dr Fauci said the death toll “looks more like the 60,000, than the 100,000 to 200,000” fatalities he initially predicted.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52225173


 


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Caz
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09 April 2020 15:29:53


Being a chef, this easter given the current situation,is going to provide some relief as obviously am currently not working and will be the first easter in god knows how many years ive not worked. A  very stressful time usually second only to December and won`t be missing working this easter one bit!! If this lockdown had started the  same time in  November I and many other chef`s and others working in hospitality would have been very happy indeed.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 

  Yes, there will be many who have a restful Easter for a change.  I’m actually enjoying the peace and quiet and slower pace of every day life.  I’ve only volunteered to work because I’m working from home, making PPE for NHS staff and this virus won’t be having Easter off!  


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Sevendust
09 April 2020 15:39:52


It was Monday night!  Beast’s lost a couple of days!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


All that drinking I guess 

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