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Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 13:06:29


 


 That is good.. Big clap for the NHS tonight.


Originally Posted by: bledur 


I will be clapping the NHS workers and carers. I will not be clapping the NHS. 


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llamedos
09 April 2020 13:09:37


 


I will be clapping the NHS workers and carers. I will not be clapping the NHS. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Semantics Brian? but I'm sure we all know where you're coming from.  


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Gavin D
09 April 2020 13:10:07
Breaking: NHS England have announced 765 new deaths this is down 63 from yesterday
Heavy Weather 2013
09 April 2020 13:12:00

Wales has reported 41 deaths in the last 12 hours (they are changing how they are reporting and this is only half a days figures)


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Gandalf The White
09 April 2020 13:12:19


 


I will be clapping the NHS workers and carers. I will not be clapping the NHS. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I don't think anyone has been applauding buildings and equipment, have they?


🙂


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The Beast from the East
09 April 2020 13:13:43

Japan reports more than 500 new cases. 


 


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Lionel Hutz
09 April 2020 13:13:49

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/have-australia-and-new-zealand-stopped-covid-19-in-its-tracks/ar-BB12nrNL?ocid=spartandhp


Interesting piece above highlighting how Austrailia and New Zealand seem to have kept a lid on the virus to a reasonable degree. It suggests that closed borders and social distancing were key factors. However, I wonder whether climate was a factor here too? It has been suggested that average temperatures of between 5 C and 11 C are ideal for the virus. Perhaps the NZ/Aus experience is a sign of this? It's also interesting that nowhere in the global South seems to ahve suffered too badly as yet. Of course, it's early days yet but it may also be another sign that Covid 19 has difficulty spreading at higher temperatures.


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Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 13:14:16


 


I don't think anyone has been applauding buildings and equipment, have they?


🙂


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Well I won't be clapping the institution called by some "our NHS". I will be clapping those who work within it. 


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The Beast from the East
09 April 2020 13:16:22

Breaking: NHS England have announced 765 new deaths this is down 63 from yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


But it wont be a 24 period anyway, its a farce


Just do it weekly


 


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09 April 2020 13:18:21


 



My father had a transient ischaemic attack on Monday afternoon. He had a call from a consultant on Tuesday morning after talking to his GP. The consultant diagnosed the mini stroke and said he would need to have scans. We all expected that these would not happen for weeks or months.


However, he had the scans yesterday at 11am in Kent and Canterbury Hospital where there are no Covid-19 wards. Clearly, the NHS is managing to organise itself to maintain other treatments. It is so staggeringly brilliant that it brought tears to my eyes.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

Sorry to hear about that but glad he got the scans.  I don’t know about you with your medical investigation being cancelled, but my hubby had a text from our NHS saying there was a dedicated line for cancer patients to call.  


Also, our daughter’s partner was suffering increasing groin pain earlier this week and was worried it was his testicles, so she phoned the local surgery, which is closed but still fully staffed.  A doctor phoned back to discuss his symptoms, then asked him to go straight into the surgery to be examined.  Turns out it’s just a pulled muscle but his mind is now at rest, thanks to some areas of the NHS still working as normal.


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Brian Gaze
09 April 2020 13:18:50


 


But it wont be a 24 period anyway, its a farce


Just do it weekly


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I think it is a 24 hour period. Too early to say whether yesterday was the peak for deaths. Unlikely since the figures seem to be lagging but we can hope. 


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Gavin D
09 April 2020 13:22:43

Updated graph with todays data UK total today is 887 - England is down 63 whilst the UK is down 51 - with some data from Wales missing.


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xioni2
09 April 2020 13:23:26


I think it is a 24 hour period. Too early to say whether yesterday was the peak for deaths. Unlikely since the figures seem to be lagging but we can hope. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Sadly, the peak is more likely to occur next week. 

roadrunnerajn
09 April 2020 13:27:29

That’s just the figures from hospital deaths. They say it’s not possible to add the deaths from care homes and elsewhere. If they could I’d imagine the true figure would be horrific.


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Gavin D
09 April 2020 13:27:37


 I think it is a 24 hour period. Too early to say whether yesterday was the peak for deaths. Unlikely since the figures seem to be lagging but we can hope. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


It's not a true 24hr period.


 


Some deaths are backdated up to 2 weeks. This is due to some patients passing away before they're confirmed to have had Covid-19 they then have to await the results to return and inform family members.


 

llamedos
09 April 2020 13:28:20


 


Sadly, the peak is more likely to occur next week. 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 

Wasn't the peak suggested to be 10th - 15th April?


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Gandalf The White
09 April 2020 13:31:48


 


Well I won't be clapping the institution called by some "our NHS". I will be clapping those who work within it. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I think that's what everyone has been doing: my point was really that the NHS is its people (hence my comment about equipment and buildings).


It's the people that put the 'service' into National Health Service, after all. Even the technology is about people getting the right equipment and using it properly.


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Gavin D
09 April 2020 13:35:02

Of the 765 deaths announced today in England



  • 140 - April 8th (yesterday)

  • 568 - April 1st to April 7th

  • 57 - in March including 1 on March 16th and 2 on March 19th

xioni2
09 April 2020 13:37:45


Wasn't the peak suggested to be 10th - 15th April?


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


Yes, using the Italian curve (and that period straddles the 2 weeks). But the way our hospitals deaths are being reported and also the current number of hospital admissions suggest that it could take a little longer. 

John p
09 April 2020 13:54:19
We get dodgy figures at the weekend, presumably the same will apply for the next four days due to the bank holiday?
Low figures for four days running won’t help the stay in message with the idiots.
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Justin W
09 April 2020 14:01:31

The number of new infections and hospital admissions are of more interest (not wishing to downplay the tragedy of the mounting death toll). I need to see Quantum's JFF model updated.


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Darren S
09 April 2020 14:02:53


In news that will surprise nobody, with over 100 deaths and rising, Liverpool is emerging as a CV19 hotspot.


The UEFA decision to force the club to host 3000+ Madrid fans as CV19 infections in Spain (especially in Madrid) were beginning to surge was and is a disgrace. And the city is now paying the price.


https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/coronavirus-tracker-shows-liverpool-hotspot-18065093


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I've just added the "Covid Symptom Tracker" app to my phone, that is mentioned in this article. It asks you a series of questions about your age, location, health and whether you have any symptoms. Apparently 2.2 million other people have also done so, and this is used to estimate how many of the population have been infected.


This app leads (as opposed to lags) the government's new infections count, as people report symptoms some time before actually being admitted to hospital and getting tested. The article says that an estimated 1.4 million are now infected, down from 1.9 million a week ago, so that hopefully shows the shape of the "New Infections" curve next week.


The app's accompanying website https://covid.joinzoe.com/data allows you to see the density of infections by local government district. The obvious locations highlighted by the government data are shown as hotspots (Greater London, Birmingham, South Wales) but also Liverpool - maybe courtesy of that football match?


Most of Central Southern England is the palest colour, with the lowest infection rates; but one notable exception is the whole of Gloucestershire - could this be down to Cheltenham Gold Cup?


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The Beast from the East
09 April 2020 14:07:13


Of the 765 deaths announced today in England



  • 140 - April 8th (yesterday)

  • 568 - April 1st to April 7th

  • 57 - in March including 1 on March 16th and 2 on March 19th


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Its a joke and not including care home or domestic home deaths


As Justin says hospital admissions is the best way to work out where we are


 


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Ulric
09 April 2020 14:12:02


Of the 765 deaths announced today in England



  • 140 - April 8th (yesterday)

  • 568 - April 1st to April 7th

  • 57 - in March including 1 on March 16th and 2 on March 19th


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Suggests we should be using a moving average to represent it more accurately.


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xioni2
09 April 2020 14:12:13

The editor of the Lancet doesn't hold back: Coronavirus is the greatest policy failure in a generation

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