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David M Porter
10 April 2020 16:03:07

I mentioned in one of the previous threads that a cousin of mine in her mid-50s unfortunately contracted Covid-19 recently and has been in hospital being treated for it for just over a week now. Thankfully, it seems she is now recovering nicely and may be allowed to leave hospital this weekend, all being well.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Gavin D
10 April 2020 16:05:42
Italy have announced 3,951 new cases and 570 new deaths

Both down on yesterda.
Gavin D
10 April 2020 16:06:37
Matt Hancock says 19,304 patients are in hospital with Covid-19

Just over 5,000 positive to 9am
John p
10 April 2020 16:10:55
Something that bothers me, is when Italy was having 800+ dying per day, it was all across the media as a disaster, Sky were running special broadcasts etc about the unfolding disaster.
We are now having numbers of deaths in the high 900’s and there is nowhere near as much mention in the media. All the talk is of Boris / the end of the lockdown.

I find it odd that the deaths in our own nation get less coverage?
Camberley, Surrey
The Beast from the East
10 April 2020 16:11:10

Italy have announced 3,951 new cases and 570 new deaths

Both down on yesterda.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Italy and Spain have now turned the corner and will hopefully ease their lockdowns soon. 


We will have to wait longer of course, but will probably follow the same path


 


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The Beast from the East
10 April 2020 16:13:20

Something that bothers me, is when Italy was having 800+ dying per day, it was all across the media as a disaster, Sky were running special broadcasts etc about the unfolding disaster.
We are now having numbers of deaths in the high 900’s and there is nowhere near as much mention in the media. All the talk is of Boris / the end of the lockdown.

I find it odd that the deaths in our own nation get less coverage?

Originally Posted by: John p 


Agree. The Italians warned us in early March, but we didn't take the steps necessary. Now we are following the same curve and yet no criticism of the Govt at all!


 


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David M Porter
10 April 2020 16:15:36


Thanks David...your contributions/observations will be invaluable there 


There will inevitably be overlaps between both threads, but I hope some of the more general observations moved there will make for better continuity in the running daily thread.


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


Agreed- thanks John.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
John p
10 April 2020 16:24:08
The total deaths for yesterday seems to have been updated to 980?
Camberley, Surrey
Brian Gaze
10 April 2020 16:28:28

Something that bothers me, is when Italy was having 800+ dying per day, it was all across the media as a disaster, Sky were running special broadcasts etc about the unfolding disaster.
We are now having numbers of deaths in the high 900’s and there is nowhere near as much mention in the media. All the talk is of Boris / the end of the lockdown.

I find it odd that the deaths in our own nation get less coverage?

Originally Posted by: John p 


Agree. I find it odd too. I think someone said today's death count in the UK was higher than has been reached in Italy. 


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Gooner
10 April 2020 16:28:39

The total deaths for yesterday seems to have been updated to 980?

Originally Posted by: John p 


Yes on the updated info from PHE date as of Friday 10th April 980 deaths


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John p
10 April 2020 16:30:00


[quote=John p;1203348]Something that bothers me, is when Italy was having 800+ dying per day, it was all across the media as a disaster, Sky were running special broadcasts etc about the unfolding disaster.
We are now having numbers of deaths in the high 900’s and there is nowhere near as much mention in the media. All the talk is of Boris / the end of the lockdown.

I find it odd that the deaths in our own nation get less coverage?[/quote


Agree. I find it odd too. I think someone said today's death count in the UK was higher than has been reached in Italy. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Italy’s worst day was 961. We’ve just hit 980. 


Camberley, Surrey
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10 April 2020 16:30:36

The UK death toll has been updated and is an horrific 980.

More updates:

Latest figures from the health secretary:

19,116 tests were carried out in the UK yesterday - 5,706 tested positive.

19,304 people are in hospital with coronavirus symptoms.

8,958 coronavirus patients have now sadly died.


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5.7K have tested positive. That I think is the highest we have seen as well


19.3K are on hospital 


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Gavin D
10 April 2020 16:31:33


 


Agree. I find it odd too. I think someone said today's death count in the UK was higher than has been reached in Italy. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Remember though our death count announced today is covering a period of 5-weeks and not 24hrs

Gandalf The White
10 April 2020 16:32:17


I mentioned in one of the previous threads that a cousin of mine in her mid-50s unfortunately contracted Covid-19 recently and has been in hospital being treated for it for just over a week now. Thankfully, it seems she is now recovering nicely and may be allowed to leave hospital this weekend, all being well.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


That's good to know.


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JHutch
10 April 2020 16:33:09



Secondly, Cambridge University research suggests there are now three main strains of the virus, with the third variant not being seen in China.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/10/uks-coronavirus-epidemic-may-have-seeded-outside-china-new-study/



Using ‘phylogenetic’ techniques that are usually reserved for tracing the origins of our early human ancestors, researchers at Cambridge University discovered that there have been three distinct variants of coronavirus since the disease emerged in Wuhan in December.
Dubbed A, B and C, the three types have followed different paths throughout the globe, possibly because they have mutated to be better at infecting specific populations
Variant ‘A’ is the ancestral strain and is most closely related to the coronavirus found in bats and pangolins. Scientists believe the disease jumped into humans from one of the creatures at Wuhan Market.
The second type ‘B’ - which is most common in mainland China - is derived from ‘A’, and separated by two mutations, while ‘C’ is in turn a ‘daughter’ of ‘B’.
But interestingly it is type ‘C’ that initially infected Britain and Europe and that variant is not found in mainland China at all.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Interesting reading more about it in the link below.


https://www.genengnews.com/news/spread-of-early-coronavirus-lineages-reconstructed-using-genetic-network-technique/


 

Gandalf The White
10 April 2020 16:33:53
From an article on the BBC website, talking about the urgent search for effective treatments in the absence of a vaccine.

"This is one of the advantages of having a National Health Service. We've never been so co-ordinated, having one big trial, and trying to recruit everybody in the country."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52236387 

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David M Porter
10 April 2020 16:36:02


 


That's good to know.


👍


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Thanks Peter. Hope you and everyone here and all your families are safe and well and remain so over the coming weeks.


 


Lenzie, Glasgow

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JHutch
10 April 2020 16:40:40


 


 


That data is widely across the media today.


 


They've suddenly woken up to the fact not all deaths are in the 24hr period something we've known for the last 3 weeks.


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Ah thanks, had searched for that data in previous days but looking today it is more widely published. Managed to find some data on a government website which matches to deaths to a specific day when it happened but it is still a bit lumpy. Might be a case of waiting for the next weekly deaths from the ONS.


 

Gandalf The White
10 April 2020 16:43:46


 


Interesting reading more about it in the link below.


https://www.genengnews.com/news/spread-of-early-coronavirus-lineages-reconstructed-using-genetic-network-technique/


 


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


That was fascinating, thanks.


Several statements caught my eye: the large number of mutations already seen; the infection route; and this comment "While the latest work has yet to be peer-reviewed, Forster says the results suggest that the first infection and spread among humans of COVID-19 occurred between mid-September and early December."


The first jump to humans potentially as early as mid-September? Wow.


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Bolty
10 April 2020 16:48:02

Unbelieveable!


Police in Rochdale approached a man that was causing a disturbance and explained to him why he he shouldn't be flouting the lockdown. He then got violent with police and bitten one of them on the arm before saying he had COVID-19.






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JHutch
10 April 2020 16:48:18


 


That was fascinating, thanks.


Several statements caught my eye: the large number of mutations already seen; the infection route; and this comment "While the latest work has yet to be peer-reviewed, Forster says the results suggest that the first infection and spread among humans of COVID-19 occurred between mid-September and early December."


The first jump to humans potentially as early as mid-September? Wow.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


That early date raised my eyebrows too. No explanation was given of that - I suppose as someone who is not an epidemiologist I may speculate it is possible that it was restricted to very small numbers of people for quite a number of weeks after that, their analysis might be giving overly wide error margins etc, and as you say it isn't peer reviewed. 

Polar Low
10 April 2020 16:48:21

Disappointing that the more usually a virus mutates the less severe it becomes. But that doesn’t seem the case in the current state of reality.


https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-mutation-and-covid-19#The-new-coronavirus-is-mutating,-but-very-slowly


 


 



 


But interestingly it is type ‘C’ that initially infected Britain and Europe and that variant is not found in mainland China at all.


Originally Posted by: Retron 

Gavin D
10 April 2020 16:48:38

Daily breakdown of the data from PHE


UK data 



  • Daily confirmed Cases -  5,195

  • Total UK deaths - 8,958


English data


Top 10 Local Authorities with the highest confirmed cases



  • Birmingham: 1,604

  • Hampshire: 1,416

  • Kent: 1,252

  • Surrey: 1,238

  • Essex: 1,232

  • Lancashire: 1,226

  • Hertfordshire: 1,179

  • Sheffield: 1,095

  • Cumbria: 1,023

  • Brent: 912


Local Authorities with the fewest confirmed cases



  • Rutland: 9

  • Isle of Wight: 41 - No change

  • North East Lincolnshire: 61

  • Hartlepool: 64

  • Torbay: 74

  • North Lincolnshire: 77

  • Kingston upon Hull, City of: 85

  • Herefordshire, County of: 86

  • Bracknell Forest: 90

  • Bath and North East Somerset: 97


Regional data



  • London - 16,011 (+794) 

  • Midlands - 9,704 (+641) 

  • North West - 8,021 (+682) 

  • North East and Yorkshire - 7,703 (+642) 

  • South East - 7,304 (+565) 

  • East of England - 4,872 (+434) 

  • South West - 2,747 (+275) 


All changes with yesterday. Data based up to 9am today for new cases and up to 5pm yesterday for new confirmed coronavirus deaths. Not all deaths occurred in the 24hr period

Polar Low
10 April 2020 16:54:27

Pric*




Unbelieveable!


Police in Rochdale approached a man that was causing a disturbance and explained to him why he he shouldn't be flouting the lockdown. He then got violent with police and bitten one of them on the arm before saying he had COVID-19.






Originally Posted by: Bolty 

Heavy Weather 2013
10 April 2020 16:54:42
Why did the chief nurse and the Matt Hancock both not answer the question today about how many NHS workers had died.

Matt glibly passed over the the chief nurse who said it was confidential. How is a number confidential?

These briefings really are useless.

Now the prime minister is better. The media really need to address and challenge the government regarding the fact there were 980 deaths
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