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Gavin D
24 April 2020 11:23:02

Spain



  • 6,740 new cases

  • 367 new deaths

Saint Snow
24 April 2020 11:38:15


The claps must end.



Red lines are people within 2m and I've been very generous. Far more people in this photo are probably within 2 metres of each other. In any case 2m is not enough. 8m is necessary to avoid the risk.


Ridiculous. Everyone with a red line needs to receive a police caution.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


 




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24 April 2020 11:40:51
Chunky Pea
24 April 2020 11:46:15


 


I missed that. However, it does suggest that there may be scope to ease the restrictions a little, particularly as the overall figures reduce. Bear in mind that the transmission rate presumably includes settings like hospitals and care homes. If cases in these places could be isolated, you would think that that should further reduce the general transmission rates. Easier said than done, I know.


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


There is one particular store downtown here (a discount store) that is openingly defining the lockdown restrictions. They have a lot of support from the public apparently and I might just pop in myself at the weekend. 


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https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
NickR
24 April 2020 11:46:37


 


What an absolute fist who thinks he is always right!


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Nope. Just that the idea that the President only enquiring rather than instructing will have no impact on people's thinking or behaviour IS naive. Full stop.


Nick
Durham
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Heavy Weather 2013
24 April 2020 11:50:42


Spain



  • 6,740 new cases

  • 367 new deaths


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


6.7k new cases. What’s been their recent run rate?! That seems very high indeed,


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Retron
24 April 2020 11:54:42


 


6.7k new cases. What’s been their recent run rate?! That seems very high indeed,


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/


Looks like a general upwards trend over the last 10 days or so...


 


Leysdown, north Kent
Quantum
24 April 2020 12:08:05


Same 'commit suicide for NHS' event in westminster.


[censored]ers.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
24 April 2020 12:10:38


There are really only two options.


Everyone here is a cretinous moron with an IQ smaller than their shoesize


or they are deliberately trying to spread the virus.


[censored]all of them.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
24 April 2020 12:12:34

I'm not going to post anymore of these photos (although I could there are so many) it makes me too angry and depressed. Anyone in any of these images should be fined £1000 and any official workers should be charged double.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Rob K
24 April 2020 12:20:40


The problem is many Americans will conclude that their Drs must be retards because they can't see what is obvious to the greatest ever POTUS Trump. I expect his popularity will increase and it wouldn't surprise me if a number of people have catastrophic outcomes after trying the disinfectant treatment. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Plenty of the antivax/homeschool brigade already do stuff like that. Google "CD protocol" or "MMS". Basically these people drink bleach, or make their autistic children drink bleach. When that destroys their intestines to the extent that bits of mucous membrane come out the other end, they think this is evidence that "parasites" are being expelled. Crazy people that I have had all to much online exposure to.


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Rob K
24 April 2020 12:24:56


UK on the move again



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


More of the old "telephoto trickery" to make places look crowded, I see. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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xioni2
24 April 2020 12:25:10

For the fans of the Swedish approach: the govt expects the biggest recession since WWII with GDP falling between 4-10%. The number of infections is also rising in Stockholm.


https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-sweden-economy/update-1-swedish-finance-minister-warns-coronavirus-recession-could-to-be-worst-since-wwii-idUSL5N2CC2Y0

Heavy Weather 2013
24 April 2020 12:25:12
+64 New Deaths In Scotland
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Quantum
24 April 2020 12:29:10

People that want to end the lockdown to save the economy are morons.


It will make the economic issues even worse. Imagine the exact same situation we are in now but with 10x as many daily cases and deaths.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
John p
24 April 2020 12:37:14


I'm not going to post anymore of these photos (although I could there are so many) it makes me too angry and depressed. Anyone in any of these images should be fined £1000 and any official workers should be charged double.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I am not defending these morons, but should point out that often these photos are taken with telephoto lenses which have the effect of dramatically compressing the depth of field of the image, making people seem closer to one another than they actually are.


edit: Sorry Rob, hadn’t noticed you posted the same!


Camberley, Surrey
SJV
24 April 2020 12:37:31


It will make the economic issues even worse. Imagine the exact same situation we are in now but with 10x as many daily cases and deaths.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Quite. It can't be good for the economy to have a significant proportion of the contributors dead or dying.


I don't envy the powers that be who are in charge of when and how we will inevitably relax restrictions. What worries me is people and places taking matters into their own hands. That is a recipe for disaster.

SJV
24 April 2020 12:38:57


 


I am not defending these morons, but should point out that often these photos are taken with telephoto lenses which have the effect of dramatically compressing the depth of field of the image, making people seem closer than they actually are.


Originally Posted by: John p 


Even if that is the case it can't be a bad thing to remind the public that there are in fact restrictions in place.

Polar Low
24 April 2020 12:41:23

Yep even had ice cream van outside for children dinner time was asked by teachers to move on btw 37 in today 


 



Did a click and collect for a load of builders sand at Wickes in Ashford (for ‘repairs’ to a wall). Was surprised by the amount of cars out and about. Seems to me that the lockdown is petering out.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 

John p
24 April 2020 12:41:55


 


Even if that is the case it can't be a bad thing to remind the public that there are in fact restrictions in place.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


I quite agree.  All I’m saying is, I could easily pick up my zoom lens now and go to Asda and take pictures that appear to show people hustling and bustling with each other, even though they are the required 2m apart. 


Camberley, Surrey
Brian Gaze
24 April 2020 12:52:40


People that want to end the lockdown to save the economy are morons.


It will make the economic issues even worse. Imagine the exact same situation we are in now but with 10x as many daily cases and deaths.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


As you know I am inclined to agree on that point. However, to play devil's advocate this is worth a read:


Coronavirus dies out within 70 days no matter how we tackle it, claims professor



Prof Isaac Ben-Israel claims that his analysis shows that the virus is self-limiting and peaks at 40 days before entering a rapid decline


But one Israeli professor claims that all efforts will lead to the same result, because the disease is self-limiting, and largely vanishes after 70 days, with or without any interventions.


Prof Isaac Ben-Israel, head of the Security Studies program at Tel Aviv University and the chairman of the National Council for Research and Development, claims that his analysis proves Covid-19 peaks at 40 days before rapidly declining.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/23/coronavirus-dies-within-70-days-no-matter-tackle-claims-professor/


Brian Gaze
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Retron
24 April 2020 12:58:21


 


As you know I am inclined to agree on that point. However, to play devil's advocate this is worth a read:


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I read that this morning, shaking my head. He's pulled a number out his butt and assumes it'll work across all countries. I think he'll look a bit silly in the summer, but we'll see.


EDIT: Notwithstanding the fact that we're well over 70 days into the epidemic here in the UK... first cases end of Jan, all of Feb, March and 24 days of April = 84 days and counting!


Leysdown, north Kent
Gavin D
24 April 2020 12:59:02
Guernsey have reported no new cases and 1 new death.
Wales have reported 243 new cases and 110 new deaths
Gavin D
24 April 2020 13:02:06
Scotland have reported 288 new case and 64 new deaths
John p
24 April 2020 13:05:37

Guernsey have reported no new cases and 1 new death.
Wales have reported 243 new cases and 110 new deaths

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


That is huge


By far their biggest daily total.  Hopefully a result of a reporting backlog and not a new trend for Wales. 


Camberley, Surrey

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