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Phil G
24 April 2020 08:48:40
Just seen Trump on the news and the mentions of sunlight and bleach. All he said was while looking at his advisor "we could look at that". Getting light under the skin, into the body. For disinfectant, he said he had seen it knockd it out in a minute, and is there a way we could do something with that, by injection, inside or or almost a cleaning, all while looking at his advisor and saying we could look at that.

My word, people hang on his every word. He was just thinking aloud, no direct instructions to anyone just trying to think of something that might be effective, trying to help. No way did he say you should go out and inject yourself. He was exploring, talking, communicating, not instructing!

If you could not differentiate him between instructing and exploring, thinking aloud, I am very very surprised, almost thinking you are sheep driven to heckle that pantomine villain. The BBC picked up on it but they would wouldn't they because they have an unhealthy fixation with Trump. On their sites they even write his complete dialogue which in fact I find very funny, as in the style of wording, it's his style.

So you get the same people on here blaming our people, blaming our govt, blaming Trump (people that are on our side), but have not seen these people blame China, the ones who are responsible for all this. You need to have a good look at yourselves. China is by far the biggest threat to the world make no mistake, not our people. Which side are you on?
I can only imagine this for some is a legacy of Brexit, the conservatives, the centre right. Some of you cookery loving, lycra wearing remainer types will never get over it, will you!

Gavin D
24 April 2020 08:49:39

Wales is altering some of its lockdown rules from tomorrow



  • Social distancing rules will be extended to hospital, school and prison canteens

  • People cannot remain away from the place they live 

  • Businesses offering a "click and collect" service will be able to reopen providing social distancing is observed

  • Families who have children with certain learning difficulties, including autism, will be allowed to leave the house more than once a day.

westv
24 April 2020 08:51:02


Wales is altering some of its lockdown rules from tomorrow



  • Social distancing rules will be extended to hospital, school and prison canteens

  • People cannot remain away from the place they live 

  • Businesses offering a "click and collect" service will be able to reopen providing social distancing is observed

  • Families who have children with certain learning difficulties, including autism, will be allowed to leave the house more than once a day.


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Isn't that pretty much similar to what is in place now??


At least it will be mild!
NickR
24 April 2020 08:53:59

Just seen Trump on the news and the mentions of sunlight and bleach. All he said was while looking at his advisor "we could look at that". Getting light under the skin, into the body. For disinfectant, he said he had seen it knockd it out in a minute, and is there a way we could do something with that, by injection, inside or or almost a cleaning, all while looking at his advisor and saying we could look at that.

My word, people hang on his every word. He was just thinking aloud, no direct instructions to anyone just trying to think of something that might be effective, trying to help. No way did he say you should go out and inject yourself. He was exploring, talking, communicating, not instructing!

If you could not differentiate him between instructing and exploring, thinking aloud, I am very very surprised, almost thinking you are sheep driven to heckle that pantomine villain. The BBC picked up on it but they would wouldn't they because they have an unhealthy fixation with Trump. On their sites they even write his complete dialogue which in fact I find very funny, as in the style of wording, it's his style.

So you get the same people on here blaming our people, blaming our govt, blaming Trump (people that are on our side), but have not seen these people blame China, the ones who are responsible for all this. You need to have a good look at yourselves. China is by far the biggest threat to the world make no mistake, not our people. Which side are you on?
I can only imagine this for some is a legacy of Brexit, the conservatives, the centre right. Some of you cookery loving, lycra wearing remainer types will never get over it, will you!

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


What a naive post.


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Essan
24 April 2020 09:00:15


 Perhaps dipping a cigarette in disinfectant before smoking it would provide the ultimate vaccine and cure in one package? 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 



I'm gonna start adding bleach to my pipe tobacco, just to be extra safe 


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John p
24 April 2020 09:00:34


But seriously, the actual expert standing next to Trump did say that UV light and humidity is very effective and explains why so many tropical countries have few cases, and also why Miami and other US cities in the South have been less badly affected than New York and Chicago


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


The expert was talking about the virus’ behaviour on surfaces and in the air - not inside a persons infected cells. 


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Gavin D
24 April 2020 09:00:55

UK on the move again


xioni2
24 April 2020 09:01:49


But Dr Tegnell has told the BBC that at least half the deaths have been in nursing homes and "it's a bit unclear to us if a lockdown would have stopped this from happening or not". He also argued that the decision not to impose strict restrictions meant that there was an immunity level of up to 20% in the capital, Stockholm, "so we hope this will make it easier for us in the long run"."


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Unless this is verified by accurate testing, I'd take this as defensive and wishful thinking by Dr Tegnell. 

Phil G
24 April 2020 09:01:58


 


What a naive post.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


What an absolute fist who thinks he is always right!

John p
24 April 2020 09:02:06


 "Sleepy Joe" who has got dementia (allegedly)


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


So has Trump (almost certainly). What a world we live in when these are the options for leader of the free world!


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24 April 2020 09:03:23


Did a click and collect for a load of builders sand at Wickes in Ashford (for ‘repairs’ to a wall). Was surprised by the amount of cars out and about. Seems to me that the lockdown is petering out.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


It won't make much difference when the infection rate peaks and declines over about 70 days almost regardless of any interventions.


Saint Snow
24 April 2020 09:05:17


 


Cannabis gives you permanent  immunity and other super powers. 


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


 


I f***ing knew it!!!



 


Anyway, it's a far more pleasant way to experiment than eating sunlight or mainlining disinfectant into your lungs for a 'clean out'.



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David M Porter
24 April 2020 09:07:37

Trump is a grade A idiot, no doubt about that, and frankly I don't rate many members of the current UK government as being much better.


That said, neither Trump nor the UK govt was responsible for the coming of this disaster in the first place.


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Saint Snow
24 April 2020 09:15:34


Who is Harries?


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


From the BBC article about the calls for an inquiry as to why the government failed to prevent 3,000 Madrid fans from travelling from their hotspot city to attend the Liverpool-Atletico game:


On the day of the match at Anfield, England's deputy chief medical officer, Dr Jenny Harries, said the UK was "following the science and the evidence" in not banning sports events, as other countries had done by then.


"In general, those sorts of events and big gatherings are not seen to be something which is going to have a big effect," she said, despite the World Health Organization urging tougher action by governments that day.

BBC wrote:



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xioni2
24 April 2020 09:15:57


Trump is a grade A idiot, no doubt about that, and frankly I don't rate many members of the current UK government as being much better.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Do you mean they have disinfectant flowing in their veins? That would explain many things.



 

SJV
24 April 2020 09:16:09

Just seen Trump on the news and the mentions of sunlight and bleach. All he said was while looking at his advisor "we could look at that". Getting light under the skin, into the body. For disinfectant, he said he had seen it knockd it out in a minute, and is there a way we could do something with that, by injection, inside or or almost a cleaning, all while looking at his advisor and saying we could look at that.

My word, people hang on his every word. He was just thinking aloud, no direct instructions to anyone just trying to think of something that might be effective, trying to help. No way did he say you should go out and inject yourself. He was exploring, talking, communicating, not instructing!

If you could not differentiate him between instructing and exploring, thinking aloud, I am very very surprised, almost thinking you are sheep driven to heckle that pantomine villain. The BBC picked up on it but they would wouldn't they because they have an unhealthy fixation with Trump. On their sites they even write his complete dialogue which in fact I find very funny, as in the style of wording, it's his style.

So you get the same people on here blaming our people, blaming our govt, blaming Trump (people that are on our side), but have not seen these people blame China, the ones who are responsible for all this. You need to have a good look at yourselves. China is by far the biggest threat to the world make no mistake, not our people. Which side are you on?
I can only imagine this for some is a legacy of Brexit, the conservatives, the centre right. Some of you cookery loving, lycra wearing remainer types will never get over it, will you!

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Given he has an army of complete morons hanging on, and believing, his every word; don't you think it is rather foolish and dangerous for the POTUS to be thinking aloud thoughts of injecting oneself with disinfectant? 


Then again, it's survival of the fittest isn't it? Darwin at work.

Brian Gaze
24 April 2020 09:18:22

Now O'Donnell raises questions about the lockdown:


Lord O'Donnell, former cabinet secretary said "when the benefits of the lockdown are not as great as the costs of continuing with it - it should be stopped". [source: Telegraph]


It's obvious the government is under massive pressure to ease restrictions. I think they'll have no alternative but to throw something to the piranhas. All eyes on infection rates!


 


 


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Saint Snow
24 April 2020 09:22:41


 


Given he has an army of complete morons hanging on, and believing, his every word; don't you think it is rather foolish and dangerous for the POTUS to be thinking aloud thoughts of injecting oneself with disinfectant? 


Then again, it's survival of the fittest isn't it? Darwin at work.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


 


Let's see if any Septics are as stoopid as these Iranians 


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8165403/amp/Drinking-methanol-leaves-300-people-dead-1-000-ill-Iran.html


 



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Saint Snow
24 April 2020 09:25:15


Now O'Donnell raises questions about the lockdown:


Lord O'Donnell, former cabinet secretary said "when the benefits of the lockdown are not as great as the costs of continuing with it - it should be stopped". [source: Telegraph]


It's obvious the government is under massive pressure to ease restrictions. I think they'll have no alternative but to throw something to the piranhas. All eyes on infection rates!


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


Phased relaxation to allow tranches of businesses to reopen.


Stress other social distancing measures remain in place.


Ramp up enforcement.


Otherwise we'll be back to touristy places being overwhelmed with people crammed like sardines again.



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Saint Snow
24 April 2020 09:28:59


 


 


Let's see if any Septics are as stoopid as these Iranians 


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8165403/amp/Drinking-methanol-leaves-300-people-dead-1-000-ill-Iran.html


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Wondering how long before an American wonders if a Tequila Sunrise is a way of ingesting sunlight.



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24 April 2020 09:34:20


 


What an absolute fist who thinks he is always right!


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


It's all very well sticking your knife into China (who may or may not be as guilty as you believe they are) but that doesn't exclude the much more real scenario, demonstrated daily for all to see, that Trump's understanding of the crisis is defective - and how!


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Gandalf The White
24 April 2020 09:43:03


 


Given he has an army of complete morons hanging on, and believing, his every word; don't you think it is rather foolish and dangerous for the POTUS to be thinking aloud thoughts of injecting oneself with disinfectant? 


Then again, it's survival of the fittest isn't it? Darwin at work.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


That is exactly the point, isn't it: it's really not that difficult to realise the power of his words to those with a limited understanding.  After all there have been reports of people drinking bleach and eating so much garlic that they ended up in hospital.


It has nothing to do with wanting to ridicule Trump; he manages to make himself look like a simpleton.


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Retron
24 April 2020 09:45:45

Good news from New York, suggesting that far more people than expected have had the virus and that the death rate is, as a result, much lower than feared.


"In New York City, about 21 percent, or one of every five residents, tested positive for coronavirus antibodies during the state survey. The rate was 16.7 percent in Long Island, 11.7 percent in Westchester and Rockland Counties, and 3.6 percent in the rest of the state. Almost 14 percent of those tested in New York were positive, according to preliminary results from the state survey, which sampled approximately 3,000 people over two days at grocery and big-box stores. The governor suggested on Thursday that, based on the survey, the death rate in New York from Covid-19 would likely be far lower than previously believed, possibly 0.5 percent of those infected. On Thursday, Mr. Cuomo did not talk about any potential for immunity among those previously infected. "


https://science.slashdot.org/story/20/04/23/2047241/1-in-5-new-yorkers-may-have-had-covid-19-antibody-tests-suggest


 


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Phil G
24 April 2020 09:50:33


 


It's all very well sticking your knife into China (who may or may not be as guilty as you believe they are) but that doesn't exclude the much more real scenario, demonstrated daily for all to see, that Trump's understanding of the crisis is defective - and how!


Originally Posted by: DEW 


It's not just me who thinks they are guilty. I am not arguing the case for Trump previous and have never defended him on other occasions. In this instance however it's what/how he said, looking and talking to his advisor, saying we could look at that, multiple times. It was never meant to be taken for real and acted upon. He was just thinking aloud as a possible explore.


Just beggars belief how the BBC and some here jumped on that. Seems some people have lost the ability to differentiate human conversation and the context of it. It seems people are just waiting waiting for another reason to have a pop. In this case, if you could not differentiate what and how Trump said things, you have the problem.

Saint Snow
24 April 2020 09:54:34


 


It's not just me who thinks they are guilty. I am not arguing the case for Trump previous and have never defended him on other occasions. In this instance however it's what/how he said, looking and talking to his advisor, saying we could look at that, multiple times. It was never meant to be taken for real and acted upon. He was just thinking aloud as a possible explore.


Just beggars belief how the BBC and some here jumped on that. Seems some people have lost the ability to differentiate human conversation and the context of it. It seems people are just waiting waiting for another reason to have a pop. In this case, if you could not differentiate what and how Trump said things, you have the problem.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


 


The time for articulating mind-wanderings really isn't when you are stood at a lectern giving a press briefing.


 


 



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