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RobN
  • RobN
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24 April 2020 17:45:20


 


 


I'll still be circulating it as wideky as I can as part of creating a 'these c*nts aren't just evil, they're idiots as well' narrative. 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I agree that someone with an agenda should never allow facts to spoil their narrative.


Rob
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Brian Gaze
24 April 2020 17:49:43


Given all they are doing is replacing GDP that is not being generated by productive economic activity, there's a compelling economic argument to use 'helicopter money' to pay for this in order to avoid an onerous deficit and borrowing burden.


Any inflationary pressure would be muted.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I'm inclined to agree with this. Also we are reaching the stage where a dose of inflation may not be bad thing. 


Brian Gaze
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Saint Snow
24 April 2020 17:49:51


 


I agree that someone with an agenda should never allow facts to spoil their narrative.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


The facts are that this bunch of shysters lied and used political 'dark arts' to create false narrstives in order to first secure a 'leave' majority in the referendum, then fix a course leading us inexorably towards the 'no deal' cliff edge.


They're fair game for anything.



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Polar Low
24 April 2020 17:51:14

Yes exactly Martin H Money


Direct monetary financing allows the government to deliver the necessary spending to save lives, while reassuring the public that they will not be overburdened with future debt repayments.”



 


 


Given all they are doing is replacing GDP that is not being generated by productive economic activity, there's a compelling economic argument to use 'helicopter money' to pay for this in order to avoid an onerous deficit and borrowing burden.


Any inflationary pressure would be muted.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

John p
24 April 2020 17:53:17


 


 


Cummings is pure malevolence. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Explains why they wanted the membership kept secret. 
I wonder who leaked it?


 


Camberley, Surrey
The Beast from the East
24 April 2020 17:58:03


 


Explains why they wanted the membership kept secret. 
I wonder who leaked it?


 


Originally Posted by: John p 


Whoever it was is likely to be spending the evening in a Cummings thumb screw much like the FCO permanent under secretary who said opting out of EU ventilator scheme was a "political decision"


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
24 April 2020 18:01:34


 


it won’t be a problem, VAT returns yes a concern but not unmanageable 


Furlough will be extended if need.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


OK, but they need to ease up the lockdown and open dental surgeries and opticians and cancer treatments, mental health therapy etc


Allow haircuts with masks!


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
24 April 2020 18:05:12


 


 


Cummings is pure malevolence. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Much like a virus with no cure


The original Rasputin was immune to poison. They ended up having to shoot him and throw him in the River Volga


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Polar Low
24 April 2020 18:12:03

It’s not a joke Geoff members like Joe B are worried about their families and jobs please bear that in mind when you post.


 



 


OK, but they need to ease up the lockdown and open dental surgeries and opticians and cancer treatments, mental health therapy etc


Allow haircuts with masks!


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Retron
24 April 2020 18:13:21


That is not true Geoff and I know these things BOE has 200 billion in gold alone also has special arrangement with treasury under exceptional circumstances.


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


You know these things?


In which case, you'd know that Brown sold off most of our gold, leaving us around 310 tons.


That's worth around £14bn at the current spot price.


Sources:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserves_of_the_United_Kingdom


https://www.gold.co.uk/info/uk-gold-reserves/


https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold-price/gold-price-per-kilo/


 


 


Leysdown, north Kent
speckledjim
24 April 2020 18:16:10
Ecuador have just added another 11500 cases today to double their total to over 22000. They are in serious trouble with a collapsed health system, bodies being left at home and in the streets.
Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Gavin D
24 April 2020 18:18:24

Italy 


3,021 new cases


420 new deaths

Polar Low
24 April 2020 18:19:21

A fifth of the world's gold is hidden under London, worth an estimated £172 billion ($248 billion).


The vaults under the Bank of England on Threadneedle Street are said to hold 5,134 tonnes of gold.


This makes up the majority of the 6,256 tonnes kept safe beneath London's streets


 




 


You know these things?


In which case, you'd know that Brown sold off most of our gold, leaving us around 310 tons.


That's worth around £14bn at the current spot price.


Sources:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserves_of_the_United_Kingdom


https://www.gold.co.uk/info/uk-gold-reserves/


https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold-price/gold-price-per-kilo/


 


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 

Gavin D
24 April 2020 18:19:24

France



  • 1,645 new cases

  • 389 new deaths

westv
24 April 2020 18:25:33


A fifth of the world's gold is hidden under London, worth an estimated £172 billion ($248 billion).


The vaults under the Bank of England on Threadneedle Street are said to hold 5,134 tonnes of gold.


This makes up the majority of the 6,256 tonnes kept safe beneath London's streets


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Not all the gold at the B of E belongs to the UK though.


At least it will be mild!
xioni2
24 April 2020 18:27:03


Italy 


3,021 new cases


420 new deaths


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The Italian curve is quite dispiriting for us. 

Lionel Hutz
24 April 2020 18:28:00


 


I'm inclined to agree with this. Also we are reaching the stage where a dose of inflation may not be bad thing. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I can see why you might sat that but the problem with inflation is that a dose can be hard to control once it gets going. Ask the Venezuelans. 


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xioni2
24 April 2020 18:30:52

The story about Cummings should be shocking, but I see many people choose not to comment. It confirms how much our standards of governance have fallen. 

Brian Gaze
24 April 2020 18:40:49


 


I can see why you might sat that but the problem with inflation is that a dose can be hard to control once it gets going. Ask the Venezuelans. 


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


That is the danger and I was going to mention it in my post. I was thinking something comparable to the 1970s.


Brian Gaze
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Brian Gaze
24 April 2020 18:42:10

Dyson CoVent is ditched due to "lack of demand"! Odd because I thought the idea was to prepare for a second wave.


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fairweather
24 April 2020 18:45:43

Trump is now saying he was being sarcastic over his disinfectant comments.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


He really needs to work on his standup delivery .... !


 


S.Essex, 42m ASL
doctormog
24 April 2020 18:48:50


 


He really needs to work on his standup delivery .... !


 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Or better still his sit down and shut up strategy.


DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member Topic Starter
24 April 2020 18:54:05


Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19


 


Originally Posted by: John p 


Apologies if this was buried further back


https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/dominic-cummings-collapsed-and-was-in-bed-for-10-days-after-contracting-coronavirus-wife-reveals


"Mr Cummings finally returned to work last week, while Mr Johnson is continuing his recovery at Chequers." dated today, 24 April


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

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fairweather
24 April 2020 18:55:36

This article spells out why the majority of Brits can't stand Trump.


https://pasdemerde.com/2019/10/18/british-writer-pens-the-best-description-of-trump-ive-read/


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Quantum
24 April 2020 19:06:53


Revealed: Cummings is on secret scientific advisory group for Covid-19


The prime minister’s chief political adviser, Dominic Cummings, and a data scientist he worked with on the Vote Leave campaign for Brexit are on the secret scientific group advising the government on the coronavirus pandemic, according to a list leaked to the Guardian.


It reveals both Cummings and Ben Warner were among 23 attendees present at a crucial convening of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) on 23 March, the day Boris Johnson announced a nationwide lockdown in a televised address.


Multiple attendees of Sage told the Guardian that both Cummings and Warner had been taking part in meetings of the group as far back as February. The inclusion of Downing Street advisers on Sage will raise questions about the independence of its scientific advice.


Originally Posted by: John p 


Before you set Beast and Saint on an 'eye in triangle' rant, is this actually unusual to have represntatives of number 10 present at SAGE meetings? The sunday times article made a big song and dance about Boris not chairing cobra meetings when it turns out that its not unusual for the appropiate cabinet minister (handcock) to do that.


What I'm asking is, is this a genuine conflict of interest that we obviously should be extremely concerned about. Or is it some innocent procedural thing that the media is trying to make something of?


 


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