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The Beast from the East
09 May 2020 17:36:53


 


They go and hand out fixed penalty notices as permitted by the law.  Or water cannon. 


Originally Posted by: John p 


Boris sold them


You cant really blame these people for going out. They read newspapers which are constantly talking about the lockdown ending, and they see what's happening in other countries and want the same thing


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Caz
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09 May 2020 17:37:15


 


They should’ve all been given fixed penalty notices. I am sick to the back teeth of all these selfish Londoners. 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Yes and the money from fines should go into the public purse towards the cost of this virus!


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bledur
09 May 2020 17:47:57


 


Boris sold them


You cant really blame these people for going out. They read newspapers which are constantly talking about the lockdown ending, and they see what's happening in other countries and want the same thing


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 No you cannot blame them when they see un restricted flights arriving here since the outset of the Pandemic . The Scientist who reckoned it was no good to stop and quarantine in coming passengers must be a brick short of a barrowload so he will probably get a Knighthood

haggishunter
09 May 2020 17:48:03


 


Do you know what, I can't be bothered, the majority voted, it's done, it's sorted, it's the past. Let's get this back on the virus topic.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


 


Whether you can be bothered or not is just tough. Brexit was never defined to give a mandate to a hard no-deal departure from the EEA. Scotland and NI voted overwhelmingly remain yet are being trampled on, not because a differential Brexit isn't possible but because of a right wing dogmatic Government. 

The Beast from the East
09 May 2020 17:48:31

One for PhilG, Maunder, Q, lanky etc


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bledur
09 May 2020 17:49:42




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Literally hundreds of people sitting having pizza, beers, wines 


 And that is just the Police


 

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09 May 2020 17:53:04


 


Literally hundreds of people sitting having pizza, beers, wines 


 And that is just the Police


 


Originally Posted by: bledur 

  To be fair, the people in that photo do look to be keeping a good distance and are not causing trouble. 


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Bugglesgate
09 May 2020 18:05:33


 


Not sure this is that much of a concern where we are with this. There may be bigger fish to fry to keep infection down. The main reason for restricting travel from what I recall on these threads was to not move from a highly infected area to a lower one, to not overload a smaller health authority with holiday visitors and to keep the RTA's  to a minimum. All to protect the NHS which now seems to be coping well. A lot of these journeys, especially at the weekend, may be local people who have learnt workrounds that are transmission safe. Like dropping off shopping, maybe birthday cards or a strimmer etc. These can all be done with social distancing the same as any other deliveriesand there is no lower transmission risk than the inside of your car.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Well In the last fortnight  I have used my car as follows :-


 


1.  Last Saturday to take groceries to The Folks (joint Ocado order to me at home)


2.  Wed last   week  a trip into   work to get equipment   to enable   remote working to continue.


3.  Today - take groceries  to the folks (Joint Ocado order to me at home)


4.  Also today, a brief trip in the MX5 across the downs  because it hasn't moved for  loads of weeks  and  needed a short run out- and I fancied doing it


 


So 3 justifiable runs and one   not so justifiable !  However, social distancing maintained at all times.


 


 


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Brian Gaze
09 May 2020 18:14:13
Just heard coffee shops and bakeries reopened here on Wednesday. Apparently they've been given the green light behind the scene. Had no idea this had been going on.
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ozone_aurora
09 May 2020 18:17:09


 


Well In the last fortnight  I have used my car as follows :-


 


1.  Last Saturday to take groceries to The Folks (joint Ocado order to me at home)


2.  Wed last   week  a trip into   work to get equipment   to enable   remote working to continue.


3.  Today - take groceries  to the folks (Joint Ocado order to me at home)


4.  Also today, a brief trip in the MX5 across the downs  because it hasn't moved for  loads of weeks  and  needed a short run out- and I fancied doing it


 


So 3 justifiable runs and one   not so justifiable !  However, social distancing maintained at all times.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


I've seldom used my car since 23 March. I have used it for:-

1. Taking goodies to my Mum at a nursing home once a week (had to ensure all stuff are completely sterilised prior to doing so).
2. To drive around, to assess suitability for shopping at supermarket or newsagent, or to get cash out. If they look too busy, I just move on, which includes passing through the local countryside.

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09 May 2020 18:17:36


 


I think you are confusing radicalised with being fed up with remainers and the hard left. We have had enough of their unaccepting behaviour. We are fed up to the back teeth with them. Their main mouthpiece has been the BBC, which walks hand in hand with the Guardian, the BBC bias for remainers in Brexit was astonishing, totally unacceptable. For that, the BBC will never be forgotten and a full review with changes can't come quick enough in certain areas. I quote them on virus stuff, but politically I don't trust them. Since the election their presenters have undergone a personality transplant. The sly devils are muted to keep hold of their jobs, but you can sense the frustration in them. They could not stop themselves argueueing with leavers up to the election.


The hard left were in power. We were under dictatorship until the December election finally broke the mold.


There is the hard left BBC/Guardian and the centre right. I am centre right as I am sure a lot round here are. Don't get that confused with the hard right which is Tommy Robinson territory.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


In one sense this is really is quite amusing.


During the last election campaign the twittersphere was full of both moderate and hard-left commentators fuming at the BBC and Guardian for their right-wing Tory supporting bias. They reserved particular vitriol for Laura K. for being hard on Jeremy Corbyn and not asking tough questions of the Tories.


In another sense it is deeply dispiriting.


It means there is no room for a publicly supported broadcasting channel because both the increasingly polarised political parties and electorate will firmly believe it is hopelessly biased against them. So the BBC will be doomed whoever is in power- unless of course they dismantle the BBC charter and make it a state broadcasting channel as a vehicle for government propaganda.


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westv
09 May 2020 18:17:52

Just heard coffee shops and bakeries reopened here on Wednesday. Apparently they've been given the green light behind the scene. Had no idea this had been going on.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Bakeries? I thought they had always been allowed to be open.


At least it will be mild!
ozone_aurora
09 May 2020 18:20:47



I've seldom used my car since 23 March. I have used it for:-

1. Taking goodies to my Mum at a nursing home once a week (had to ensure all stuff are completely sterilised prior to doing so).
2. To drive around, to assess suitability for shopping at supermarket or newsagent, or to get cash out. If they look too busy, I just move on, which includes passing through the local countryside.



Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


It looks like I will be doing the same for the Chemist, as I am running out of medicines. I'll probably will chicken out & no-longer take them!

noodle doodle
09 May 2020 18:33:16




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


Spray them with marking dye

Saint Snow
09 May 2020 18:34:27


 


Some EU countries doing rather better than the UK? This has just started. We are barely on the starting blocks with this. I wouldn't be backing any horses just yet! As to Brexit sunny uplands, yes we are leaving no transition 31 Dec. The further we are from the EU Titanic when it sinks, the better! Can't come quick enough! May was a weak and feable remainer, a puppet for the EU. Just thank god remainer MPs did not vote for her ludicrous deal. They got greedy, her deal was the EU's dirty work!


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


 


Boy, have YOU got it bad




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The Beast from the East
09 May 2020 18:39:45


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The Beast from the East
09 May 2020 18:41:47


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Phil G
09 May 2020 19:03:01


 


In one sense this is really is quite amusing.


During the last election campaign the twittersphere was full of both moderate and hard-left commentators fuming at the BBC and Guardian for their right-wing Tory supporting bias. They reserved particular vitriol for Laura K. for being hard on Jeremy Corbyn and not asking tough questions of the Tories.


In another sense it is deeply dispiriting.


It means there is no room for a publicly supported broadcasting channel because both the increasingly polarised political parties and electorate will firmly believe it is hopelessly biased against them. So the BBC will be doomed whoever is in power- unless of course they dismantle the BBC charter and make it a state broadcasting channel as a vehicle for government propaganda.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


This isn't biased. From the referendum to the December election, every day the BBC website published anti Brexit stories which always contained the words could, might, perhaps etc and followed these up on TV. It was every day, well over a thousand days of propoganda. When these stories were found to be untrue, there was nothing, no apology, but these stories had served a purpose because the strategy was if you tell a story enough times, it must be true. When it came to interviews, the BBC could not help themselves argueueing with leavers.


John Humphrey's on his leaving the BBC:


"John Humphrys has lifted the lid on the BBC's "institutional liberal bias" and accused the corporation of being out of touch with the nation in his memoir.


The veteran broadcaster, who retired from Radio 4's Today show two days ago, says bosses "badly failed" to read the public's mood on Brexit and "simply could not grasp" why anybody voted Leave.


In an extract published in The Daily Mail on Saturday, he recalled the morning after the referendum, writing: "Leave had won – and this was not what the BBC had expected. Nor what it wanted.


"No nods and smiles when the big bosses appeared. No attempt to pretend that this was anything other than a disaster."


 


There you go, from a horses mouth. It was funny to see the BBC presenters faces post December election. Smacked arses, restrained, muted, personality transplants. The BBC tried to influence the public telling them what they should be thinking. As far as I am concerned the quicker they get rid of as many of the unaccepting hard left wing remainers there the better. Being centre right I can acknowledge both sides, but when it comes to the Guardian they are so extreme left wing and unaccepting of the other side, you can never make them see your point of view.

Justin W
09 May 2020 19:14:10

I know I'm a hypocrite etc and I do find Phil G's posts quite amusing but can we keep these purely Brexit posts out of this thread? It's not always easy and HMG's Covid-19 response and Brexit are linked but let us try to stay on topic


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09 May 2020 19:14:32



I've seldom used my car since 23 March. I have used it for:-

1. Taking goodies to my Mum at a nursing home once a week (had to ensure all stuff are completely sterilised prior to doing so).
2. To drive around, to assess suitability for shopping at supermarket or newsagent, or to get cash out. If they look too busy, I just move on, which includes passing through the local countryside.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 

I haven’t driven at all since lockdown as I’m working from home and I’m hoping it’s like riding a bike.    My daughter’s using my car to collect her work.  Hubby’s car comes out once a week when we go shopping.  That’s it for us.  However, our son does come to borrow the strimmer and bring it back.    


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Phil G
09 May 2020 19:28:43


I know I'm a hypocrite etc and I do find Phil G's posts quite amusing but can we keep these purely Brexit posts out of this thread? It's not always easy and HMG's Covid-19 response and Brexit are linked but let us try to stay on topic


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Quite Justin. I have been defending my vote for nearly four years now. Very tiresome!


On topic, let's hope the PM keeps things tight until they fathom out what's causing our high infection rate.

Whether Idle
09 May 2020 19:28:48


 


 


 


 The BBC tried to influence the public telling them what they should be thinking. As far as I am concerned the quicker they get rid of as many of the unaccepting hard left wing remainers there the better. Being centre right I can acknowledge both sides, but when it comes to the Guardian they are so extreme left wing and unaccepting of the other side, you can never make them see your point of view.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Oh   my   God.  Would you listen to yourself.


 Go volunteer to help out a food bank or the NHS Scheme and do us all a favour by posting less crap less often.


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Maunder Minimum
09 May 2020 19:47:40

Anybody wondering why Kent is a COVID-19 hotspot?


Look no further than this abject disgrace:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52599696


 


New world order coming.
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09 May 2020 20:01:53


 


This isn't biased. From the referendum to the December election, every day the BBC website published anti Brexit stories which always contained the words could, might, perhaps etc and followed these up on TV. It was every day, well over a thousand days of propoganda. When these stories were found to be untrue, there was nothing, no apology, but these stories had served a purpose because the strategy was if you tell a story enough times, it must be true. When it came to interviews, the BBC could not help themselves argueueing with leavers.


John Humphrey's on his leaving the BBC:


"John Humphrys has lifted the lid on the BBC's "institutional liberal bias" and accused the corporation of being out of touch with the nation in his memoir.


The veteran broadcaster, who retired from Radio 4's Today show two days ago, says bosses "badly failed" to read the public's mood on Brexit and "simply could not grasp" why anybody voted Leave.


In an extract published in The Daily Mail on Saturday, he recalled the morning after the referendum, writing: "Leave had won – and this was not what the BBC had expected. Nor what it wanted.


"No nods and smiles when the big bosses appeared. No attempt to pretend that this was anything other than a disaster."


 


There you go, from a horses mouth. It was funny to see the BBC presenters faces post December election. Smacked arses, restrained, muted, personality transplants. The BBC tried to influence the public telling them what they should be thinking. As far as I am concerned the quicker they get rid of as many of the unaccepting hard left wing remainers there the better. Being centre right I can acknowledge both sides, but when it comes to the Guardian they are so extreme left wing and unaccepting of the other side, you can never make them see your point of view.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


John Humphrys is a poor choice of judge of impartiality. He was a terrible interviewer. He'd been in the job too long and thought he was a god. His interviews were appalling biased but often it wasn't a simple matter of left or right - it was whether he liked the interviewee or not. If he liked the person he was terribly chummy and never asked a difficult question. However if he took a dislike to the person he was a complete rottweiler. 


I think your political spectrum is so far skewed as to be unrecognisable to most people.


As I mentioned above the extreme left think the Guardian is a Tory stooge.


Those like you claiming the BBC has an extreme left wing bias are so far to the right that the "centre right" is on the left to them.


Perhaps you should have looked in the mirror before you wrote the last sentence.


 


 


Rob
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Maunder Minimum
09 May 2020 20:06:04

The BBC is neither hard left nor right, I grant you - it is rather a Guardian blob and feels comfortable with those opinions which are expressed politically as Blairism and middle class left of centre goody goody yum yum.


I agree with Justin that this thread should not become derailed by Brexit, but on that particular topic, it is clear that most BBC people suffer from brexitderangementsyndrome and simply fail to comprehend it.


New world order coming.

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