Yes, but what I'm getting at is in the best summers, the Azores high ridges in across the country and migrates east, dragging up warmth from the south. This year, there seems to be a propensity of it trying to do that, but is being forced backwards by the troughing more than in the better years. That to me is all the evidence I need to assume a changeable summer at best, because in the best summers, the Azore ridge will build and block off anything from the west/northwest.
Originally Posted by: moomin75