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Ally Pally Snowman
17 June 2020 09:15:27


 


Exactly this. Azores high desperately trying to settle things down but being thwarted by that deep low pressure out to our north west 


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


this low pressure is to the west of Ireland it's absolutely massive. Very unusual for late June. And it's setting up a classic NW - SE split


 


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ballamar
17 June 2020 09:20:52
90f real possibility middle of next week in the SE - might be the last real heat for a couple of weeks but would be welcome
Ally Pally Snowman
17 June 2020 10:35:41

90f real possibility middle of next week in the SE - might be the last real heat for a couple of weeks but would be welcome

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


The GFS 6z is a real scorcher 90f probably 4 days in a row.


 


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Brian Gaze
17 June 2020 10:46:39

Blowtorch back in town? (Just for a change these days. ) 33C next week possible if this verifies.



 


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moomin75
17 June 2020 10:54:25


Blowtorch back in town? (Just for a change these days. ) 33C next week possible if this verifies.



 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Looks a bit better longer term as well on this run Brian. Not keeping the blowtorch for long, but staying settled (at least in England and Wales) a lot longer.


Just one run though.


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Ally Pally Snowman
17 June 2020 11:05:40

The GFS 6z is probably a best case scenario for heat lovers . And you can usually add 2/3c to GFS maxes so a very hot run.


Maxes starting with the 22nd


24c, 28c, 31c, 31c, 33c, 30c, 27c, 25c, 27c 


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ozone_aurora
17 June 2020 11:20:23

Not sure which correct thread to post this.

What the airmass over central & eastern England, today & yesterday? Is it returning polar maritime or is it too modified to be called that?

Thanks.

TimS
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17 June 2020 11:45:59


Not sure which correct thread to post this.

What the airmass over central & eastern England, today & yesterday? Is it returning polar maritime or is it too modified to be called that?

Thanks.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


Very good question. The low pressure with the lower heights wrapped around it was if polar maritime origin. But looking at the archive 850 charts that depression has entrained a load of tropical continental air and it's that we see sat over the UK today.


See evolution below:






For it to be returning polar maritime we would need to be in the post cold-frontal airstream. You could make an argument that a (very Tm-modified) returning Pm airmass is blowing across west-Central France.


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Ally Pally Snowman
17 June 2020 11:57:28

 


 Hot set! Some absolute furnace runs in there.


 



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Downpour
17 June 2020 12:14:02


Pretty standard summers can still see flooding.


As I said 7 days ago, the weather will start making news headlines by mid to late month. I see that is now indeed the case and will be very impactful between now and the weekend.


 


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 


Indeed so, I'm reading headlines about a mini-heatwave next week although I'm not sure that's what you predicted a few days ago?


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moomin75
17 June 2020 12:17:16


 


 


Indeed so, I'm reading headlines about a mini-heatwave next week although I'm not sure that's what you predicted a few days ago?


Originally Posted by: Downpour 

Wait until the end of the week before questioning my suggestion of impactful weather from rain. 50mm In an hour is forecast in places....that's pretty impactful in my opinion.


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briggsy6
17 June 2020 15:41:10

Yuck. Don't like the sound of 90f heat next week. Wouldn't surprise me though, it seems to be becoming the norm most Summers down here nowadays.


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Rob K
17 June 2020 16:36:50


Yuck. Don't like the sound of 90f heat next week. Wouldn't surprise me though, it seems to be becoming the norm most Summers down here nowadays.


Originally Posted by: briggsy6 


You’ll like the GFS 12Z then, which isn’t interested in the heat and rapidly shunts it away into Europe. One 30C day possibly. 


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TimS
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17 June 2020 17:21:39


 


You’ll like the GFS 12Z then, which isn’t interested in the heat and rapidly shunts it away into Europe. One 30C day possibly. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


...but may not be so happy that 12z is a cool outlier later next week.


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Ally Pally Snowman
17 June 2020 18:44:00

Very hot ECM tonight 15c/ 16c 850s in the south by day 6/7.


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Ally Pally Snowman
17 June 2020 18:58:38

I'd bank that ECM run 3 hot days probably 90f in the SE/EA days 6/7/8 then a thundery breakdown quickly followed by another push from the Azores high . Very warm westerly at day 10 as well so much warm air around at the moment.


 


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severnside
17 June 2020 19:25:13

lets hope the ECM 12z verifies.

White Meadows
17 June 2020 20:02:49
Looking very warm, potentially hot and thundery in the south from next tues/Wednesday
Rob K
17 June 2020 20:11:03


lets hope the ECM 12z verifies.


Originally Posted by: severnside 


My first impression of the ECM is that it’s something of a step back from the ultra settled HP dominated runs we have seen in recent days. Still pretty warm though. 


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TimS
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17 June 2020 21:42:42
Some deterioration on the 18z Icon and GFS. Not a done deal yet. Today’s torrential rain has tested my faith.
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Gandalf The White
17 June 2020 22:17:38


 


My first impression of the ECM is that it’s something of a step back from the ultra settled HP dominated runs we have seen in recent days. Still pretty warm though. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 




That's interesting because my take of the ECM runs in recent days has been of some uncertainty about the positioning and intensity of the high pressure pushing in from the south-west. Today's 12z looks to offer rather more high pressure dominance than some others of late.


 


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moomin75
17 June 2020 22:30:58

Some deterioration on the 18z Icon and GFS. Not a done deal yet. Today’s torrential rain has tested my faith.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


Absolutely. Impactful rainfall is still very much on the cards over the coming week to ten days.


Unsettled sums it up....with occasional transient high pressure for very brief drier spells.


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100m ASL
Joe Bloggs
18 June 2020 06:50:00

Occasional transient high pressure looks to get less occasional and less transient according to the big three this morning. GFS weakest of the bunch, but even this run shows some high pressure dominated conditions at times. 

A good chance of some increasingly settled and very warm weather as we approach the medium term.

With the fantastic weather we’ve had throughout the spring, and the proper mixed mag of summer weather we’ve had in June so far, I’m loving this season at the moment! 



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Ally Pally Snowman
18 June 2020 06:54:43

WOW! Insanely hot ECM this morning 13c to 19c  850s in the south days 5 to 10. Must be an outlier but fun to look at. Mid 30s anyone!


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Joe Bloggs
18 June 2020 06:57:39


WOW! Insanely hot ECM this morning 14c to 19c  850s in the south days 5 to 9.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Bloody fantastic runs this morning. 


MetO a corker at T+144 too. 


Caution still required as we have some unsettled weather to get through before then, and the positioning of the Atlantic low and how quickly it shunts NW will have a bearing on what happens afterwards. Uncertain but promising. 



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