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CField
16 February 2021 10:07:44


 


MetO were Tweeting about it as a possibility yesterday. I've not looked at the stats.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

The extremities of the UK climate could offer stats that are not a true reflection of the season thesedays.


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ballamar
16 February 2021 10:20:46
Flooding definitely a possibility in the SW on this run
Surrey John
16 February 2021 10:28:20

Flooding definitely a possibility in the SW on this run

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


Doesn’t look exceptionally wet to me, yes rainy, but the SW isn’t like the East, it rains more and many of its rivers can take about 3 times the rainfall of some areas without flooding.


 


But I also can’t see those 15-20c Spring like conditions that some people were predicting 3 days ago, to be honest the weather looks more like you would expect first half November, than late February in my opinion 


 


 


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Gooner
16 February 2021 10:51:35


In like a Lion 


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backtobasics
16 February 2021 10:54:15



In like a Lion 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Please God no !!! 

doctormog
16 February 2021 10:56:07
One op run at +300hr out. At the moment it is of very limited predictive value.
Gooner
16 February 2021 11:01:46

One op run at +300hr out. At the moment it is of very limited predictive value.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


BUT


The ENS do show a cooling trend into March 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Saint Snow
16 February 2021 11:21:32



In like a Lion 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


 



That'd be a much better alignment than a 'chilly fart from the east'


 



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Gooner
16 February 2021 11:31:26


Bonkers!!!


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hobensotwo
16 February 2021 11:36:04



Bonkers!!!


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Here we go again. A cold shot in March can't be ruled out IMO.


I'm sure this kind of setup will have some support amongst the ens.


Some our best cold spells over recent years have occurred in March.

Hippydave
16 February 2021 12:22:23

Not sure I'd class the 6z Op as particularly exciting/interesting, although that's an IMBY biased view based on uppers and windflow, which would probably bring more cold but not quite cold enough weather for here, although I appreciate others will view it considerably more favourably.


Leaving it aside though, being 1 op run in deep FI, I think the models are reasonably consistent at the moment although there's been some tweaks to the setup. 


Near term it's unsettled and mild with HP to our South or South East. Broadly SW flow with potential for some exceptionally mild days/nights over the next 7-8 days. The duration of this unsettled period has been lengthened from when it first cropped up.


Mid term there's signs of HP build from the South and deflecting LPs further North, giving a more pronounced NW/SE split.


Longer term there's a signal for more HP influence and for this to far enough North to possibly bring some cooler air in. There remains a low chance of HP being far enough North to bring some cold air in but IMO the favoured option is for HP near or over the UK. Clearly if it's just to the South milder weather is more likely, over the UK more average weather is likely depending on whether we trap some warmer uppers in.


The period where HP builds over the UK (or North but influencing us) has been pushed back to late Feb/early March and until that stabilises I'll take any charts with more of a pinch of salt than usual for that range.


So still some promise of colder weather if anyone fancies another chase but a very low chance at the moment and a signal that needs to strengthen before it's more than the usual random FI noise.


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idj20
16 February 2021 16:27:31

Seems Autumn won't be done with us just yet going by on some of the outputs beyond this weekend.


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Saint Snow
16 February 2021 16:48:55


Seems Autumn won't be done with us just yet going by on some of the outputs beyond this weekend.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


 


And not the 'mists and mellow fruitfulness' variety, either 


 



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Robertski
16 February 2021 17:36:24


 


Please God no !!! 


Originally Posted by: backtobasics 

Yes please.laughing

dagspot
16 February 2021 17:46:06


Yes please.laughing


Originally Posted by: Robertski 


Hear ye, hear ye! 


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doctormog
16 February 2021 17:49:31


Yes please.laughing


Originally Posted by: Robertski 


It has gone 6 hours later.


marcus72
16 February 2021 18:04:00


 


It has gone 6 hours later.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


To be replaced by basically 384 hours of mild, damp south westerlies. Obviously (hopefully?!) it won't play out like that but wow, the 12Z is shocker of a run, whether you're hankering after more cold or a taste of spring. Neither to be found here. Next please.  


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BJBlake
16 February 2021 18:27:35


 


It has gone 6 hours later.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Not the GFS Control though, vestiges of an amplified jet and cold blocking, albeit fleeting. I would not be surprised to see it back in 6 hours time - just on queue for the pub run. 

Isn’t there a 3rd SSW event to push down on the Trop around the 1st week of March ?


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Brian Gaze
16 February 2021 18:35:25

Amazing how quickly the snow row counts have fallen: 


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/snowrow.aspx?type=daily&location=London#London


 


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tallyho_83
16 February 2021 19:03:40


Not the GFS Control though, vestiges of an amplified jet and cold blocking, albeit fleeting. I would not be surprised to see it back in 6 hours time - just on queue for the pub run. 

Isn’t there a 3rd SSW event to push down on the Trop around the 1st week of March ?


Originally Posted by: BJBlake 


Yes that what I was thinking we have seen the effects of the 2nd, what about the 3rd?


Met Office talk of colder spells increasing and added 'wintry hazards' back in their long range earlier today - or was this because they saw the 06z Op run?


Either way the 12z LOOKs dire - even for those wanting spring sunshine away from the far SE - it's basically mild and wet throughout. Very little signs of anything settled which was what the Met Has been going for for a while now. Let's hope we see a change soon.


I am fed up with the rain already. Good Aberdeen has had some sunny weather today but this won't last so enjoy it Richard & Doc. 


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doctormog
16 February 2021 19:09:13


 


Yes that what I was thinking we have seen the effects of the 2nd, what about the 3rd?


Met Office talk of colder spells increasing and added 'wintry hazards' back in their long range earlier today - or was this because they saw the 06z Op run?


Either way the 12z LOOKs dire - even for those wanting spring sunshine away from the far SE - it's basically mild and wet throughout. Very little signs of anything settled which was what the Met Has been going for for a while now. Let's hope we see a change soon.


I am fed up with the rain already. Good Aberdeen has had some sunny weather today but this won't last so enjoy it Richard & Doc. 


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Why would sunny weather not last in Aberdeen in a predominantly SWly flow? It is almost certain we would have more sunshine than in any form of easterly. Not wall to wall of course but not too dull and certainly not too wet, just sunshine and showers or spells of rain but brighter weather too, not “permacast hell”. The GFS shows about 20mm rain here in the next two weeks which is not notably wet (or notably dry either).


 


marco 79
16 February 2021 19:24:45
Looking at midday gefs..looking above average out to la la land..(my neck of the woods)..not to overly wet either..but I think this needs a slight caveat of how GFS is hunting over today's later stage runs once again..my punt would take70/30 milder option as we head into march..(at this stage anyroads)..
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western100
16 February 2021 20:17:24
Still good consistency for HP to sit to the south. The models look to keep HP further south and not being modelled over the UK as much

LPs run more West to East as opposed to South to North which keeps things more average by temperature but very wet

Not looking as mild as it did.
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Schnow in Peace
16 February 2021 21:05:59

Well ECM certainly looks better than GFS on 12z. The high coming up later in the run would give things the chance to dry out a bit more. 

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17 February 2021 07:45:54

http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4 Mass of very cold Siberian air withdrawing and beginning to break up, so not favourable for any late cold blast from the E. 


GFS shows Atlantic dominance throughout; any prospect of sustained HP over NW Europe let alone UK has gone. Strong SW-lies at first with principal centre of LP off NI/W Scotland to Tue 23rd then more W-ly and quieter while a deep and cold  LP winds up off Greenland (960mb Wed 3rd)


GEFS temps up and down but mostly on the mild side to Thu 25th (peak mildness Sun 21st), then mostly closer to seasonal  norm with if anything a signal for mildness to continue through to Fri 5th. Never really dry (unlike previous), rain most likely around Tue 23rd but plenty in the W at any time.


ECM which never really believed in a strong HP is vindicated, but has relented a bit and shows more of a ridge of HP passing through Sat 27th where GFS is in the middle of its W-ly zonal spell


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