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mulattokid
10 August 2022 10:33:17


 


I assume you must have been up a mountain, or have been lucky enough to experience something not in the records. There’s never been recorded snow in August in lowland England. 


Originally Posted by: TimS 


 


Sorry to spam, but I think reading in between the lines, you might be flogging a dead horse here.


 


Edit:  I just did four posts!  Spammer apolgies. That is half my annual allowance used up  


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Rob K
10 August 2022 10:41:24


 



 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Just reposting this for moomin’s benefit. East Anglia the driest part of the whole country!


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moomin75
10 August 2022 10:43:03


 


 


Just reposting this for moomin’s benefit. East Anglia the driest part of the whole country!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

That's good for that part of my break, but I am then heading over to Cheshire for a cricket tour, which looks considerably worse!


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Osprey
10 August 2022 10:43:16


 


I assume you must have been up a mountain, or have been lucky enough to experience something not in the records. There’s never been recorded snow in August in lowland England. 


Originally Posted by: TimS 


I'll tag that one.


I googled "What is the coldest August on record UK?"


and it came up with:


"The lowest August temperature recorded for the UK is -4.5°C at Lagganlia in Inverness-shire, Scotland in 1973. which isn't a surprise. and


obviously nowhere near the SE"


However I cannot find anything snow related for August in the SE UK.


I do remember it snowing, but it was probably a bit like a flash bulb going off, ingrained on my retina for 10 minutes and then gone! :)


 


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Rob K
10 August 2022 10:47:44
6Z manages five 35C days (Thursday to Monday) and then goes rather wet, but still warm.
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Osprey
10 August 2022 11:14:39


 


To be fair, that would still be anecdotal, let alone be statistically impossible.  Just saying.


Originally Posted by: mulattokid 


 


Hmm.. I probably shouldn't be posting here, as this forum is for the weather science and model outputs and not for some of the wet lettuce brigade such as myself  I'll make no more comments!


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Brian Gaze
10 August 2022 11:45:15


 


   I thought everybody loved a good thunder storm?? 


Originally Posted by: mulattokid 


They're wasted on me. I'd much sooner remain hot and sunny. 


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Saint Snow
10 August 2022 12:53:44


 Yes, I know this has been said before, although not just a TWO cliché, I often hear it said.   Maybe it just seems that way.  A bit like talking to people abroad who think it always rains in the UK, because that’s what they’ve heard from us so many times.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


 


 


It's something I never really noticed... until having my own kids.


I think what made it stand out like a sore thumb to me was the run of Augusts we had during my eldest's school years.


2006 had a great June/July but a poor August (and great Sept)


2007 - 2012 were average-to-poor summers overall. In the 7 years my eldest was at primary school, all but 3 sports days were called-off. The kids' holidays were just as bad. But I still 'felt' like the best spells came at the start of summers.


2013 & 2014, the best spell of summer weather happened in the first two-thirds of July, with August being the worst of the 3 summer months


2018 had the best weather for much of the country in that May/June/July period (although Aug wasn't 'terrible' and I know further toward the SE Aug was good)


 


Certainly that 2006 to 2014 period saw August overall to be the worst of the 3 summer months. In 06, 13 & 14, we saw the breakdown of great summer spells at around the time the kids broke up from school in late July, and no repeat in August.


I don't, though, remember this being a 'thing' when I was younger.


Hopefully it was/is just a coincidental anomaly that will disappear totally. 


 



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Saint Snow
10 August 2022 12:54:45


 


They're wasted on me. I'd much sooner remain hot and sunny. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 



 


Likewise. But, if it has to rain, then some pyro action thrown in is a bonus.



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Matty H
10 August 2022 13:18:51


 


   I thought everybody loved a good thunder storm?? 


Originally Posted by: mulattokid 


Nope. Hate them. Hate rain. Literally nothing interests me about them. I won’t even bother the curtains if there’s a storm going on


Saint Snow
10 August 2022 13:20:10


 


Nope. Hate them. Hate rain. Literally nothing interests me about them. I won’t even bother the curtains if there’s a storm going on


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


You must hate your trips to Florida, then!


 



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johnr
10 August 2022 13:57:58


As for Snow in August, I've known of an Air Frost in low lying East Anglia. Santon Downham recorded a Min of -1.5C on Aug 1st 1976, yes that year!

Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


In the largely forgotten hot summer of 1975, it snowed in June.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/1975-overshadowed-by-drought-of-2876858

I was working on a Suffolk farm at the time and remember it well. A sunny day then a sudden darkening line of very low cloud, 30 minutes of fairly heavy snow and then it stopped. None of it settled, of course, but it threw the farm owner, who was a bit of a weather buff. He was in his eighties and had a number of oft-recalled weather events from down the years but June snow was not amongst them.

For hot weather, it was the summer of 1921 and he referenced everything since then as being less extreme than that summer. 1975 was close in but in 1976 he finally conceded that 1921 was surpassed.


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Sevendust
10 August 2022 14:15:17

 


In the largely forgotten hot summer of 1975, it snowed in June.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/1975-overshadowed-by-drought-of-2876858

I was working on a Suffolk farm at the time and remember it well. A sunny day then a sudden darkening line of very low cloud, 30 minutes of fairly heavy snow and then it stopped. None of it settled, of course, but it threw the farm owner, who was a bit of a weather buff. He was in his eighties and had a number of oft-recalled weather events from down the years but June snow was not amongst them.

For hot weather, it was the summer of 1921 and he referenced everything since then as being less extreme than that summer. 1975 was close in but in 1976 he finally conceded that 1921 was surpassed.


Originally Posted by: johnr 


Aye - was a complete surprise. Massive wet flakes where I was at home in Colchester. Stopped the county cricket there

Hungry Tiger
10 August 2022 14:18:26


 


In the largely forgotten hot summer of 1975, it snowed in June.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/1975-overshadowed-by-drought-of-2876858

I was working on a Suffolk farm at the time and remember it well. A sunny day then a sudden darkening line of very low cloud, 30 minutes of fairly heavy snow and then it stopped. None of it settled, of course, but it threw the farm owner, who was a bit of a weather buff. He was in his eighties and had a number of oft-recalled weather events from down the years but June snow was not amongst them.

For hot weather, it was the summer of 1921 and he referenced everything since then as being less extreme than that summer. 1975 was close in but in 1976 he finally conceded that 1921 was surpassed.


Originally Posted by: johnr 


Interesting if we emulate 1921.


The October of 1921 was very warm even hot in the first 2 weeks.


 


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10 August 2022 15:11:31


 


In the largely forgotten hot summer of 1975, it snowed in June.


Originally Posted by: johnr 


https://www.thecricketer.com/topics/features/clive_lloyd_buxton_summer_1975_snow_stopped_play_june_lancashire_derbyshire.html


 


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The Beast from the East
10 August 2022 16:38:52

GFS and UKMO perhaps tropical downpours next week


 


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moomin75
10 August 2022 16:54:23


GFS and UKMO perhaps tropical downpours next week


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yep, all about to go bang I think with a 1976-esque deluge to end the drought,  just in time for my holiday! 😡


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bledur
10 August 2022 18:06:14


 


Yep, all about to go bang I think with a 1976-esque deluge to end the drought,  just in time for my holiday! 😡


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 76 did not end with a bang here. started raining very lightly about Sunday lunch time and by bedtime it was a steady rain which went on all night . After that there were a few fine days before a succession of depressions giving a lot of rain. 

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10 August 2022 18:15:08
I think 1976 dry spell ended at the start of September with hurricane remnants giving several hours of steady rain, but with ground baked hard there was some flooding - well it did here. There wasn't any thunder involved to speak of.
four
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10 August 2022 18:17:37


 


In the largely forgotten hot summer of 1975, it snowed in June.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/1975-overshadowed-by-drought-of-2876858

I was working on a Suffolk farm at the time and remember it well. A sunny day then a sudden darkening line of very low cloud, 30 minutes of fairly heavy snow and then it stopped. None of it settled, of course, but it threw the farm owner, who was a bit of a weather buff. He was in his eighties and had a number of oft-recalled weather events from down the years but June snow was not amongst them.

For hot weather, it was the summer of 1921 and he referenced everything since then as being less extreme than that summer. 1975 was close in but in 1976 he finally conceded that 1921 was surpassed.


Originally Posted by: johnr 


We had snow cover that morning too, it had also been poor growing weather through April and May - often too cold for grass it felt like a very late spring.


 


Essan
10 August 2022 18:24:47

I think 1976 dry spell ended at the start of September with hurricane remnants giving several hours of steady rain, but with ground baked hard there was some flooding - well it did here. There wasn't any thunder involved to speak of.

Originally Posted by: four 



It was the end of August (last week of school holidays?)

We were on holiday on the Isle of Wight.   It rained!   It always rained when we were on holiday in the 70s 


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10 August 2022 19:07:46


 


In the largely forgotten hot summer of 1975, it snowed in June.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/1975-overshadowed-by-drought-of-2876858

I was working on a Suffolk farm at the time and remember it well. A sunny day then a sudden darkening line of very low cloud, 30 minutes of fairly heavy snow and then it stopped. None of it settled, of course, but it threw the farm owner, who was a bit of a weather buff. He was in his eighties and had a number of oft-recalled weather events from down the years but June snow was not amongst them.

For hot weather, it was the summer of 1921 and he referenced everything since then as being less extreme than that summer. 1975 was close in but in 1976 he finally conceded that 1921 was surpassed.


Originally Posted by: johnr 

 I remember the June snow very well. I got caught in it walking to a polling station to vote, maybe the common market referendum, June 5th?  I think we had a couple of days of it but it didn’t stick around for long. 


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10 August 2022 22:00:51
18z GFS so far very similar to 12z (up to Sunday morning).
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The Beast from the East
10 August 2022 22:20:04
Again could be very wet but also warm on the 18z. But if the trough ends up even further west it will be just hot again
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Downpour
10 August 2022 22:39:20


 


Yes I have. You disprove it then? I can't prove what I've seen in August over 50 years ago,


It may have been a 5 minute wonder, I don't remember, but it did snow.


It's a freak weather moment/day etched in that you never forget.


I say 'etched in' as after, I was I always keeping an eye on the weather in the following Augusts, hoping it wouldn't be a trend.


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


When you are claiming snow in August - August! - I dare say the burden of proof is very much on you, not the guy who is challenging the claim. 


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