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Rob K
18 August 2022 08:05:12


Hubby and I were noting more than average berries on trees and hedgerows and hoping it’s not a sign of a hard winter to come. Sod’s law it will be as the build of our granny annex starts in November.  We’ve planned for air source heat pump and solar with battery storage to keep our heating bills down.  But probably won’t benefit this winter, depending on how long the build takes, which depends on good weather. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


I think the berry thing is a myth. There were masses of berries last year and the winter was very mild.


We are having a heat pump installed in the next couple of weeks. I hope the builders managed to get the roof watertight before the 40+mm of rain yesterday!


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Matty H
18 August 2022 08:38:09


The longer summer can hold on the better. Many people will be brought to their knees from 1st October when average monthly energy bills exceeded £200.


Theres a campaign group cancelling their direct debits. Risky but could be the only way to force companies to stop being so greedy. 
Thousands of elderly will die this winter scared of turning their heating on. 
We should all pray for a mild one. 


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


I think by ‘risky’ you mean thick as s%#t?


Anyway, still looking like the warm/hot weather is going to return. Agree with others, I hope this is the mildest winter on record. Not because of fuel bills, but because I despise winter 


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18 August 2022 09:57:46


Hubby and I were noting more than average berries on trees and hedgerows and hoping it’s not a sign of a hard winter to come. Sod’s law it will be as the build of our granny annex starts in November.  We’ve planned for air source heat pump and solar with battery storage to keep our heating bills down.  But probably won’t benefit this winter, depending on how long the build takes, which depends on good weather. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Well the geese (Canada ones) were flying early and late the last few days and in numbers not seen for a generation. A sure harbinger of a bitter winter to come according to that old tome Farmer Hackett's Journal of Lore and Premonitions.


Hope the building works proceed as planned. 


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South Dorset
Elevation 60m 197ft
Spring Sun Winter Dread
18 August 2022 10:06:20
Surely animals can only react to current weather and not predict the future ??
Otherwise they should be posting on here. .
I am actually looking at the autumn months and wondering if one will come in below average for temps.
We have not had a below average month on the CET since August 2021 by my calculations and that in itself is quite staggering .
If it doesn't happen then the race for warmest year on record is going to turn into a procession
The Beast from the East
18 August 2022 10:18:44

06z looking hot, and the rain for Sunday and Monday has disappeared for the south. So basically we had no rain at all yesterday and a small amount on Tuesday, barely got down to the roots



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The Beast from the East
18 August 2022 10:31:16

One last heatwave for the season, mid 30s?



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Jiries
18 August 2022 10:50:30


One last heatwave for the season, mid 30s?



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Yes please it still August and the last few days had been extremely boring so heatwave and sunshine a lot mote interesting.  Look how cold in Greenland already in August so hope that stay bottled up as long as possible to keep warm here in early Autumn.

The Beast from the East
18 August 2022 10:57:56

Control also hot, but threat of rain, tropical



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The Beast from the East
18 August 2022 11:05:53

A few insane members popping up. Can we get to 40 again? Perhaps too late in the season now



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Spring Sun Winter Dread
18 August 2022 12:36:17
If 35C+ was possible at the start of September 1906 then I certainly think getting close to 40C is possible in late August in a perfectly calibrated set up.
Unlikely to actually materialize of course.
Matty H
18 August 2022 12:51:29
Not sure we can get 40c late August? Literally no idea though as the rule book has been thrown out the window now

I’d love it if we did. Again
bledur
18 August 2022 13:00:46


One last heatwave for the season, mid 30s?



Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 Not according to the M.O. Warm but no heatwave


https://youtu.be/49_YbdzFGOs?t=5

Hungry Tiger
18 August 2022 13:18:55

I'm expecting this year to see warm/hot spells running into September and possibly even October.


 


 


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Jiries
18 August 2022 13:35:46


I'm expecting this year to see warm/hot spells running into September and possibly even October.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


We need this with the rising bills expected in October so that cut 1 month out of it. It been well overdue for warm October since 2011 when it went over 25C.  Was more often in the past Octobers of up to mid 20's but after 2011 always on the cold side.

Hungry Tiger
18 August 2022 13:53:21


 


We need this with the rising bills expected in October so that cut 1 month out of it. It been well overdue for warm October since 2011 when it went over 25C.  Was more often in the past Octobers of up to mid 20's but after 2011 always on the cold side.


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Most of us on here are concerned with heating bills this coming autumn and winter and for sound reasons as well. Quite a few of us have alluded to this on here this past couple of days. I'd normally regard these comments as off topic - But in this case given the seriousness of all that has gone on this year I've let them go.  However, I don't want to see any abusive or nasty comments or they will be removed and ban warnings or more will be the order of the day.


On to more immediate matters - the state of the weather and forecasts all concern us as we lead out of summer and into autumn and how much heating and the like we need is relevant as this comes into the branch off applied meteorology.


As things are now I can see another warm to hot spell brewing - How long this will last at the moment it is still hard to say. I'm still off the thoughts that unless there is a dramatic synoptic change I can see a l;engthy warm to hot spell in September - that would be good and useful for all as well.


We'll see.


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Jiries
18 August 2022 14:10:19


 


Most of us on here are concerned with heating bills this coming autumn and winter and for sound reasons as well. Quite a few of us have alluded to this on here this past couple of days. I'd normally regard these comments as off topic - But in this case given the seriousness of all that has gone on this year I've let them go.  However, I don't want to see any abusive or nasty comments or they will be removed and ban warnings or more will be the order of the day.


On to more immediate matters - the state of the weather and forecasts all concern us as we lead out of summer and into autumn and how much heating and the like we need is relevant as this comes into the branch off applied meteorology.


As things are now I can see another warm to hot spell brewing - How long this will last at the moment it is still hard to say. I'm still off the thoughts that unless there is a dramatic synoptic change I can see a l;engthy warm to hot spell in September - that would be good and useful for all as well.


We'll see.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


I have not use the models but now lately I am to view for warmth to keep going as those uppers of -16C in Greenland are very dangerously close to attack UK if winds from the NW but thankfully no charts show direct NW flow.  We usually see -5C in Greenland by end of August but today charts show -16C under near full mid-August sun there.   

Hungry Tiger
18 August 2022 14:22:59


 


I have not use the models but now lately I am to view for warmth to keep going as those uppers of -16C in Greenland are very dangerously close to attack UK if winds from the NW but thankfully no charts show direct NW flow.  We usually see -5C in Greenland by end of August but today charts show -16C under near full mid-August sun there.   


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Something to keep an eye on. I wonder if the likes of that will perhaps materialise in late October.


 


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Rob K
18 August 2022 18:51:09


 


 Not according to the M.O. Warm but no heatwave


https://youtu.be/49_YbdzFGOs?t=5


Originally Posted by: bledur 


No heatwave on the ECM. Looks rather cool in fact. 


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ballamar
Jiries
18 August 2022 20:35:37

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=cfs&var=1&run=6&time=3096&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref

A little teaser for anyone fed up with warm !!

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


This I seen many times and always dry instead of winter snow storm that all other countries like most noticable USA and Greece get from that exact set up.

CreweCold
18 August 2022 20:41:40


 


I have not use the models but now lately I am to view for warmth to keep going as those uppers of -16C in Greenland are very dangerously close to attack UK if winds from the NW but thankfully no charts show direct NW flow.  We usually see -5C in Greenland by end of August but today charts show -16C under near full mid-August sun there.   


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Depends what time of the day it's modelled for.


What you tend to see is the cold uppers reforming at night and then increasing again during the day. Very common during latter August and September around that locale.


 



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CreweCold
18 August 2022 20:46:06


 



 


RE my post above...From the same day...one at 8am and the other at 8pm after daytime heating



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55 metres above sea level
White Meadows
18 August 2022 21:37:35

https://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=cfs&var=1&run=6&time=3096&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref

A little teaser for anyone fed up with warm !!

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


 


Chuckle!


You should check out the chart for New Year’s Eve. All a white out after that. 

Downpour
18 August 2022 22:14:58


 


Most of us on here are concerned with heating bills this coming autumn and winter and for sound reasons as well. Quite a few of us have alluded to this on here this past couple of days. I'd normally regard these comments as off topic - But in this case given the seriousness of all that has gone on this year I've let them go.  However, I don't want to see any abusive or nasty comments or they will be removed and ban warnings or more will be the order of the day.


On to more immediate matters - the state of the weather and forecasts all concern us as we lead out of summer and into autumn and how much heating and the like we need is relevant as this comes into the branch off applied meteorology.


As things are now I can see another warm to hot spell brewing - How long this will last at the moment it is still hard to say. I'm still off the thoughts that unless there is a dramatic synoptic change I can see a l;engthy warm to hot spell in September - that would be good and useful for all as well.


We'll see.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Very wise. The relaxed moderation on TWO is an asset to the site - surely nobody wants it to become like the other channel where people are kicked out for saying boo to a goose or posting something ‘off topic’ in the hallowed MOD thread? 


Back to the models, and I note we are sniffing warm or very warm again down south. Part of me wants summer to wind down although I am liking the fact that August is bossing it, as it should. 


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The Beast from the East
18 August 2022 22:17:22
Pub run looking hot. Block doesn’t get split
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