In today's climate, yes. In the old days - not so much, you didn't need a such a depth of anomalous cold to do it. You're too young to have seen the early to mid 80s, and believe you me - you really missed out!

I'm sure the same could be said of us 80s kids by those who were around in the 60s, mind you. 😂

Originally Posted by: Retron 

Here we go...

Here's the snow depth using the default GFS parameter:




Here's the snow depth for the same time after setting snow density to be 400 kg/m2.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

I won't elaborate too much as there is a separate thread for nostalgic discussions.  (I don't think I would assess the snowiness of the 50's and 60's as being better cold event wise than the late 70's and 80's. Especially if you take out out the unbelievable anomaly of 1963 winter out of the equation. I think it is probably easier to say this century now, as being a totally different kettle of fish. Genuine blizzards, often forgotten because they were short lived, were far more common then.) 
The second half of February is starting to look promising. February the 10th looks like a key date when it may or may not start to happen. It has a look of longevity about it compared to the January cold snap.

Originally Posted by: fairweather 

The cold period of the 50s to late 80s seem to curiously coincide with peak nuclear bomb testing around the world. 

 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

The cold period of the 50s to late 80s seem to curiously coincide with peak nuclear bomb testing around the world. 

 

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

possibly, volcanoes as well, mount st helens etc

however, recently, no matter how much Iceland blows up volcanic wise, it has no effect on UK
 

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

Peak industrial pollution

Originally Posted by: Essan 

That unpronounceable volcano in iceland that went up in early 2010 was followed by one of the coldest December's on record. I think this might be more than just mere coincidence.

Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 

Iyelsajdaslllfafjfjfolffdff 
 

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

Yes Iyelsajdaslllfafjfjfolffdff was more Ash based, were as recent ones are just lava flows and fractures
 

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

This GFS op run demonstrates how living in the SE you really need the cold in first! 

Originally Posted by: ballamar 

Peak industrial pollution

Originally Posted by: Essan 

Peak industrial pollution

Originally Posted by: Essan 

Dear oh dear, met update gone from unsettled cold , snow to average temps and a uk high again!!

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

Dear oh dear, met update gone from unsettled cold , snow to average temps and a uk high again!!

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version 

Out of interest, why do you always put your comments on the Met Office forecasts in here when they should be in the Media thread?

🙂

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

I speculated years ago that the decrease in industrial pollution may have contributed to the decline of high pressure over Scandinavia during the winter months. Perhaps coincidence, but the deindustrialisation in western and particularly eastern Europe (after the fall of the wall) seemed to also mark the end of the mid winter Scandi high as we knew it.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

It's based on model runs right?
 

Originally Posted by: The Dub Version