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GezM
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24 July 2024 10:30:01

A lovely day yesterday and a nice start to today. It's also encouraging to see that the models are trending towards a general improvement in the weather, so hopefully this will be a classic case of a backloaded summer with hopefully a very respectable August and a warm September to come. It would be great to get a decent period of good and useable weather before the descent into rubbish begins.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


It would also be good to have some decent longer dry spells across much of the UK before the inevitable autumn deluges begin. Water levels in this area are still high and there isn't much capacity for absorbing heavy rain. This will only get worse as evaporation rates and temperatures drop
Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)
Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)
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idj20
25 July 2024 09:02:31
Next door had recently gifted me enough top soil to properly level off my back yard and yesterday I've put down £15 worth of grass seed. Now watch how it will not rain for the next six weeks, so if any of us here at Kent are experiencing a drought by this time next month then I'm to blame. 
Folkestone Harbour. 
Jiries
25 July 2024 09:07:00

Next door had recently gifted me enough top soil to properly level off my back yard and yesterday I've put down £15 worth of grass seed. Now watch how it will not rain for the next six weeks, so if any of us here at Kent are experiencing a drought by this time next month then I'm to blame. 

idj20 wrote:


I am having my garden a complete make over with new patio on 16th Sept as the men are available to work so should be good timing as September is reliable month for settled and then some rain to help to water the new turf so i don;'t need to water at all as I am on water meter so rain will do the job and ground won't be so dry at that time of the year.
Saint Snow
25 July 2024 09:19:57

A lovely day yesterday and a nice start to today. It's also encouraging to see that the models are trending towards a general improvement in the weather, so hopefully this will be a classic case of a backloaded summer with hopefully a very respectable August and a warm September to come. It would be great to get a decent period of good and useable weather before the descent into rubbish begins.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 




And rain in Manc by the end of the working day.

Today is cloudy once again.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
25 July 2024 09:27:34
It looks like I've possibly picked the wrong week to go to Devon  🤬

Both ECM and GEM have a low ruining the first weekend (the end of their runs). GFS has it drier, but the AH only properly ridging well over the UK later in the week, and before we're on the fringe of it.

The general forecast in my mind is:

Friday 2nd (travelling down) - dry, 21-22c
Sat & Sun - mostly cloudy, chance of ppn. cooler. 19-20c
Mon-Wed - dry, sunny spells 21-22c
Thur - fine & sunny, warmer. 23-24c
Fri (travelling back home) - warm & sunny - 25c

And I reckon that weekend and the following week will be the best spell of the summer 

Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Col
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25 July 2024 14:36:02

And rain in Manc by the end of the working day.

Today is cloudy once again.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


But today although cloudy has been bright at times and much better than the constant rain that was forecast just a few days ago. That said yesterday was worse than originally expected with quite a bit of rain at times. Swings & roundabouts as they say.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg
Jiries
25 July 2024 17:15:14

But today although cloudy has been bright at times and much better than the constant rain that was forecast just a few days ago. That said yesterday was worse than originally expected with quite a bit of rain at times. Swings & roundabouts as they say.

Originally Posted by: Col 


Been cloudy due to the pest south rain sliding and I notice how many times it rain slide to the south this summer more than the Midlands.  Just imagine how much snow they get in the south in winter with those frequent sliders and snow on the ground for many weeks.
Retron
25 July 2024 17:43:45

It looks like I've possibly picked the wrong week to go to Devon  🤬
Friday 2nd (travelling down) - dry, 21-22c
Sat & Sun - mostly cloudy, chance of ppn. cooler. 19-20c
Mon-Wed - dry, sunny spells 21-22c
Thur - fine & sunny, warmer. 23-24c
Fri (travelling back home) - warm & sunny - 25c

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


If you want warm and sunny weather, skip the Westcountry and just come to Kent... we're usually warmer in the summer and this year is no exception. Forecast for Leysdown for the next week, as an example, from the MetO:

https://ukwct.org.uk/weather/leys6.jpg 
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It will end up warmer than that, too. As an example, Saturday has gone from 21C two days ago to 24C today, and even today - we've had 21.6 rather than the 20 that was modelled.
Leysdown, north Kent
Tim A
26 July 2024 08:58:41
London is looking like 29c now for Monday and Tuesday according to Met Office. Bit hot for my sightseeing trip but much better than mediocre weather.  Hotel has air conditioning so all good. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
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Retron
26 July 2024 09:01:43

London is looking like 29c now for Monday and Tuesday according to Met Office. Bit hot for my sightseeing trip but much better than mediocre weather.  Hotel has air conditioning so all good. 

Originally Posted by: Tim A 


LOL, just wait 'til you get on the Tube. 😂

Hot weather, especially with added humidity, in London sucks, as you'll soon find out!

(The best weather for sightseeing in London is something like tomorrow will be - a bit of a breeze, scattered clouds, highs in the low 20s).

Leysdown, north Kent
Col
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26 July 2024 09:35:12

LOL, just wait 'til you get on the Tube. 😂

Hot weather, especially with added humidity, in London sucks, as you'll soon find out!

(The best weather for sightseeing in London is something like tomorrow will be - a bit of a breeze, scattered clouds, highs in the low 20s).

Originally Posted by: Retron 


So about average for London then. I've always thought that London as a world tourist destination has just about the perfect summer climate for visiting. Not too hot but warm enough to be pleasant almost all the time. A reasonable amount of sun and not that much rain.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg
Retron
26 July 2024 09:45:47

So about average for London then. I've always thought that London as a world tourist destination has just about the perfect summer climate for visiting. Not too hot but warm enough to be pleasant almost all the time. A reasonable amount of sun and not that much rain.

Originally Posted by: Col 


Tomorrow will be average, yes. The 29 that Tim is enthusing about isn't average, far from it, and will be especially unpleasant to be out and about in. (And yes, I speak from experience - it was 25 when I went four weeks ago and that was enough for the Jubilee line carriage I was on to stink of BO, and the bus back from Kew was especially putrid inside - steamy, and it stank of BO and stale piss. 29 would be even worse.)

London's transport isn't designed for hot weather, other countries where it's hotter (like Japan, or the south/SW in the States) cope much better with it all!
Leysdown, north Kent
Tim A
26 July 2024 09:53:08
I agree it's a bit too hot but at least it will be warm in the evenings so can sit out. 
It won't be as bad as last summer, 12 days in Florence/Tuscany with temps over 40c on half the days (and just under on the others) and no air con for most of the trip. 
Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
Jiries
26 July 2024 10:37:08

Tomorrow will be average, yes. The 29 that Tim is enthusing about isn't average, far from it, and will be especially unpleasant to be out and about in. (And yes, I speak from experience - it was 25 when I went four weeks ago and that was enough for the Jubilee line carriage I was on to stink of BO, and the bus back from Kew was especially putrid inside - steamy, and it stank of BO and stale piss. 29 would be even worse.)

London's transport isn't designed for hot weather, other countries where it's hotter (like Japan, or the south/SW in the States) cope much better with it all!

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Until now they refused to put ac in buses even with cooler climate now we having it still hot inside any vehicle like all cars have ac is a must.
cultman1
28 July 2024 14:52:45
Here in Fulham it has turned cloudy albeit warmer than yesterday but only 25 degrees it was expected to reach 27 degrees 
Disappointing but not surprising 
cultman1
30 July 2024 07:57:28
According to the Met Office app it is meant to be unbroken sunshine throughout today at least for the London area currently it is cloudy . I doubt 32/33 degrees will be reached if this cloud cover continues. 
cultman1
30 July 2024 10:09:04
Just cirrus cloud now and a moderate breeze humidity picking up so could reach 29-30 
Jiries
04 August 2024 05:34:30
Those hopeless apple apps are so inaccurate and refusing sun symbols always full on daily overcast clouds fictional rain or snow undercook max temps and over cook night temps especially frosty nights rarely below -1.
Reality sunny to sunny spells at some point daily, no rain or snow, temps resulted higher by 2 to 3C and frosty nights well below -4 or more as proof of deep frosts on surfaces as -1 is slight frost patches.   I know very well on frostiness thickness from temps I used to record it.
Same applied to Nicosia and Furnace creek also well under cook both day and night temps.  
Rob K
04 August 2024 17:36:05
I bit of a gloat - we had three cracking days of weather on the Isle of Wight from Wednesday to Friday - pretty much wall to wall sunshine and temps in the mid 20s. Slightly disappointed to have missed the thunderstorms and flash flooding back home on Thursday but enjoyed a great beach day 50 miles to the south!

I suspect we might be less lucky in Cornwall from the 17th though.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Bolty
14 August 2024 14:25:55
That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.
Scott
Blackrod, Lancashire (4 miles south of Chorley) at 156m asl.
My weather station 
Saint Snow
14 August 2024 14:51:18

That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 



It's funny how one's subconscious mindset drifts over time.

Back in school, this week would have been one of the two middle-weeks of the school summer holidays, and I remember always thinking of summer as a July-August event. When I started working, I sort of gradually drifted away from that. When our kids were younger, you drift back.



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Retron
14 August 2024 15:10:38

That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


It's later down here - around the 20th, or a couple of days later, but I know exactly what you mean. The sun loses its "kick" and from then on the changes happen much more quickly. It's now pretty dark in the morning when I get up too (I've noticed in the last few days that we've gone from a couple of just the brightest stars to lots more).

It still feels like high summer here but even then it looks a little autumnal due to the lack of rain: more trees are shedding leaves and the grass is increasingly turning to straw, leaving just the clover and dandelions etc behind!

Conversely the opposite happens in the middle of February down here - that's when the sun starts to get a kick to it, even if it's mild compared to the searing heat of midsummer.
Leysdown, north Kent
Chunky Pea
14 August 2024 16:27:05
Agree with above posts. Darkness coming in a earlier now but what Iove about 2nd half of August is the curiously red tinged evening twilights that you don't get at any other time of year. 
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Col
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14 August 2024 16:46:21

That late summer feeling is starting to creep in now, which I find very consistently tends to happen around the middle of August. It's interesting in this context because it's a nice and sunny 20°C day, yet the sun doesn't have that same early summer intensity any more. The shadows are also visually longer now too, the nights are noticeably creeping in and nature is getting that characteristic "tired" late summer look about it.

Very consistently I find this tends to happen around the midway point of August, regardless of the weather, and this year is no different.

Originally Posted by: Bolty 


Yes, I was thinking exactly the same thing today. The June/July intensity of the sun has gone. The exact converse of what happens in mid Feb when the sun is noticeably higher in the sky and begins to feel warm on your face. As someone who leaves for work at 4.45am every day it's the mornings getting darker that I notice. Around the solstice I leave in broad daylight but now there's just a glimmer of light in the east and soon that will be gone too.
Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
Snow videos:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3QvmL4UWBmHFMKWiwYm_gg
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Retron
14 August 2024 16:54:03

Yes, I was thinking exactly the same thing today. The June/July intensity of the sun has gone. The exact converse of what happens in mid Feb when the sun is noticeably higher in the sky and begins to feel warm on your face. As someone who leaves for work at 4.45am every day it's the mornings getting darker that I notice. Around the solstice I leave in broad daylight but now there's just a glimmer of light in the east and soon that will be gone too.

Originally Posted by: Col 


You're an early bird like me, then - the thing that always catches me out is how rapid that early morning change is this time of year!

The mid Feb/mid-late Aug switch is interesting too, as it doesn't really make sense, even though you've also noticed it.

Here, for example, around the 20th August the sun is still 51 degrees high in the sky, 11 degrees below the June maximum. Two weeks after that, early September, it'll only be 46 degrees high... but that's still way more than in late February, when it's only 26 degrees high!

I guess it's the rate of change we're picking up on in both cases. Following a long period where the sun's intensity has been much the same, be it winter or summer, we notice it more...
Leysdown, north Kent
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