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NickR
12 February 2012 17:43:44


What I have found slightly odd about this whole recent racism issue in the Premier League is this: Luis Suarez was found guilty by the FA of racially abusing Patrice Evra during the Liverpool v Man Utd game at Anfield last October and was subsequently banned for 8 games, but no criminal charges resulted. At around the same time, John Terry allegedly racially abused Anton Ferdinand during the QPR v Chelsea game. Terry, as far as I know, has not been punished by the FA, but has been charged by the police with racial abuse and is now facing trial in a court of law. I can only think that what Terry has been accused of doing must have been rather more serious than what Suarez was alleged to have done, otherwise I don't see how one player could be charged under the law of the land with racial abuse yet the other only faces sanctions from the FA.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Maybe because, unlike the dimwitted FA, the CPS know that they cannot prosecute someone in an English court for using a term in Spanish that isn't, per se, racist? Maybe, unlike 5live, they realise that pretending it was used and pronounced like an English word would only lead to a successful prosecution in an FA committe a Kangaroo court.

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SEMerc
12 February 2012 17:46:15

The table may not say so, but are Villa relegation candidates? They are absolutely dire. They'd even have trouble in the Chumpionship.


As for City, this looks to be a team running out of steam, yet they can still grind out results.

Romfordman
12 February 2012 17:56:11


The table may not say so, but are Villa relegation candidates? They are absolutely dire. They'd even have trouble in the Chumpionship.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


On the face of it yes, however they will probaly be saved by the total ineptability of other clubs below them


Although I would love for QPR to go down, but again Wigan, Wolves and Bolton are excellent candidates.

Richard
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SEMerc
12 February 2012 17:57:44

I wouldn't be so sure. Villa 2 points from a possible 21 in the most recent 7 games at Villa Park. That is beyond shite.

CAPE-steve
12 February 2012 18:05:49


The table may not say so, but are Villa relegation candidates? They are absolutely dire. They'd even have trouble in the Chumpionship.


As for City, this looks to be a team running out of steam, yet they can still grind out results.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Yes Villa were awful, except at the end when Citeh got nervy, but that isn't the way to approach a game. Citeh will be alright as Yaya Toure comes back next week, and that is a massive boost to them.

Gooner
12 February 2012 18:06:31


The table may not say so, but are Villa relegation candidates? They are absolutely dire. They'd even have trouble in the Chumpionship.


As for City, this looks to be a team running out of steam, yet they can still grind out results.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Probably why they are now looking at Tevez back, he has had a long rest and will be like a new signing..................very clever

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Gooner
12 February 2012 18:10:31


Suárez still feels agrieved; didn't want to shake Evra's hand; I don't see why anyone sbhould have to shake someone's hand if they don't want to; fuss about nothing; blown out of all proportion by media, SAF, etc; more mindless witterings from Jason Roberts et al.; pompous self-righteousness rules everywhere; I'm bored with it.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Post of the week.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Not too sure about that , in this politically correct world we live in and promote fair play and want to get Racism out of sport and while the shaking of hands is part of the pre match protocol then players have to shake hands.

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Romfordman
12 February 2012 18:10:36


I wouldn't be so sure. Villa 2 points from a possible 21 in the most recent 7 games at Villa Park. That is beyond shite.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


QPR have only 4, that includes a win against the bottom club Wigan

Richard
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SEMerc
12 February 2012 18:21:00



Suárez still feels agrieved; didn't want to shake Evra's hand; I don't see why anyone sbhould have to shake someone's hand if they don't want to; fuss about nothing; blown out of all proportion by media, SAF, etc; more mindless witterings from Jason Roberts et al.; pompous self-righteousness rules everywhere; I'm bored with it.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Post of the week.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Not too sure about that , in this politically correct world we live in and promote fair play and want to get Racism out of sport and while the shaking of hands is part of the pre match protocol then players have to shake hands.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Yes, but my argument has been that we should get rid of 'shaking hands'. I can't remember whether Bridge and Terry shook hands after the latter played 'hide the salami' with the former's missus.


I'm assuming the opportunity came up, although I can't remember because Bridge doesn't exactly register on my radar.

David M Porter
12 February 2012 18:37:35




Suárez still feels agrieved; didn't want to shake Evra's hand; I don't see why anyone sbhould have to shake someone's hand if they don't want to; fuss about nothing; blown out of all proportion by media, SAF, etc; more mindless witterings from Jason Roberts et al.; pompous self-righteousness rules everywhere; I'm bored with it.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Post of the week.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Not too sure about that , in this politically correct world we live in and promote fair play and want to get Racism out of sport and while the shaking of hands is part of the pre match protocol then players have to shake hands.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Yes, but my argument has been that we should get rid of 'shaking hands'. I can't remember whether Bridge and Terry shook hands after the latter played 'hide the salami' with the former's missus.


I'm assuming the opportunity came up, although I can't remember because Bridge doesn't exactly register on my radar.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


I may be wrong here, but wasn't that the episode which led to Terry losing the England captaincy prior to the last World Cup?

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SEMerc
12 February 2012 18:40:45





Suárez still feels agrieved; didn't want to shake Evra's hand; I don't see why anyone sbhould have to shake someone's hand if they don't want to; fuss about nothing; blown out of all proportion by media, SAF, etc; more mindless witterings from Jason Roberts et al.; pompous self-righteousness rules everywhere; I'm bored with it.

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Post of the week.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Not too sure about that , in this politically correct world we live in and promote fair play and want to get Racism out of sport and while the shaking of hands is part of the pre match protocol then players have to shake hands.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yes, but my argument has been that we should get rid of 'shaking hands'. I can't remember whether Bridge and Terry shook hands after the latter played 'hide the salami' with the former's missus.


I'm assuming the opportunity came up, although I can't remember because Bridge doesn't exactly register on my radar.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


I may be wrong here, but wasn't that the episode which led to Terry losing the England captaincy prior to the last World Cup?


Originally Posted by: NickR 


It was. I can't remember whether they met on the field of play though.

Gooner
12 February 2012 19:13:52




Suárez still feels agrieved; didn't want to shake Evra's hand; I don't see why anyone sbhould have to shake someone's hand if they don't want to; fuss about nothing; blown out of all proportion by media, SAF, etc; more mindless witterings from Jason Roberts et al.; pompous self-righteousness rules everywhere; I'm bored with it.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Post of the week.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Not too sure about that , in this politically correct world we live in and promote fair play and want to get Racism out of sport and while the shaking of hands is part of the pre match protocol then players have to shake hands.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Yes, but my argument has been that we should get rid of 'shaking hands'. I can't remember whether Bridge and Terry shook hands after the latter played 'hide the salami' with the former's missus.


I'm assuming the opportunity came up, although I can't remember because Bridge doesn't exactly register on my radar.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Ok fair enough


John Terry tried to shake Wayne Bridges hand but Bridge wasn't interested

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
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Saint Snow
12 February 2012 19:15:14

just read that saint comment. a bit frankie boyle in its humour! should be deleted but thats up to the mods

Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


Seems like the mods listened to the puritannical, 'outraged of Tonbridge Wells' types who didn't appreciate a bit of on-the-edge jokery.


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haghir22
12 February 2012 19:50:16


just read that saint comment. a bit frankie boyle in its humour! should be deleted but thats up to the mods

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Seems like the mods listened to the puritannical, 'outraged of Tonbridge Wells' types who didn't appreciate a bit of on-the-edge jokery.


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


I did wonder where half the thread was, pity becuase in it were quite frank statements from Gooner and I that may have led to a risky but enlightening discussion.

YNWA
Gooner
12 February 2012 19:54:07



just read that saint comment. a bit frankie boyle in its humour! should be deleted but thats up to the mods

Originally Posted by: haghir22 


Seems like the mods listened to the puritannical, 'outraged of Tonbridge Wells' types who didn't appreciate a bit of on-the-edge jokery.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I did wonder where half the thread was, pity becuase in it were quite frank statements from Gooner and I that may have led to a risky but enlightening discussion.


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


I didn't see anything Jas, I wasn't there

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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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SEMerc
12 February 2012 20:08:49



just read that saint comment. a bit frankie boyle in its humour! should be deleted but thats up to the mods

Originally Posted by: haghir22 


Seems like the mods listened to the puritannical, 'outraged of Tonbridge Wells' types who didn't appreciate a bit of on-the-edge jokery.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I did wonder where half the thread was, pity becuase in it were quite frank statements from Gooner and I that may have led to a risky but enlightening discussion.


Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


You'll probably find that some buttock clenching numpty complained.

sriram
12 February 2012 20:30:40
How Mick Mccarthy can not be sacked is beyond me - he can have any number of bad results - and say things wil improve - but dont

Anyway - its odds on favourite that Wolves will be in the championship next year - cannot see them escaping the drop
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Gooner
12 February 2012 21:21:32

How Mick Mccarthy can not be sacked is beyond me - he can have any number of bad results - and say things wil improve - but dont Anyway - its odds on favourite that Wolves will be in the championship next year - cannot see them escaping the drop

Originally Posted by: sriram 


along with Wigan, Bolton,Blackburn,QPR  3 from the 5 I would say

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Marcus
Banbury
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Matty H
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  • Advanced Member Topic Starter
12 February 2012 22:11:02



just read that saint comment. a bit frankie boyle in its humour! should be deleted but thats up to the mods

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Seems like the mods listened to the puritannical, 'outraged of Tonbridge Wells' types who didn't appreciate a bit of on-the-edge jokery.


Originally Posted by: haghir22 


I did wonder where half the thread was, pity becuase in it were quite frank statements from Gooner and I that may have led to a risky but enlightening discussion.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


You'll probably find that some buttock clenching numpty complained.

Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 



Someone did complain. You guys know me, I'm hardly a prude and can be more than a little controversial, but in the context of this site as a whole, it would have just led to problems.

Saint, behave or I'll slap your ass you bad boy 😛
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SEMerc
13 February 2012 03:14:27

LOL, the 'Queen' Kenny apology meltdown thread on RAWK.


Warning - bad language and pi$$poor grammar


http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=286632.0

SEMerc
13 February 2012 03:28:31




just read that saint comment. a bit frankie boyle in its humour! should be deleted but thats up to the mods

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Seems like the mods listened to the puritannical, 'outraged of Tonbridge Wells' types who didn't appreciate a bit of on-the-edge jokery.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


I did wonder where half the thread was, pity becuase in it were quite frank statements from Gooner and I that may have led to a risky but enlightening discussion.


Originally Posted by: haghir22 


You'll probably find that some buttock clenching numpty complained.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Someone did complain. You guys know me, I'm hardly a prude and can be more than a little controversial, but in the context of this site as a whole, it would have just led to problems. Saint, behave or I'll slap your ass you bad boy :-P

Originally Posted by: CAPE-steve 


Just out of curiosity, would he/she be regarded as a football fan? Or simply someone who popped in and had palpitations because their idea of irony is a device one presses clothes with??


Man up and complain on here, if you're up to it. Don't sneakily complain to mods.

Matty H
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  • Advanced Member Topic Starter
13 February 2012 07:41:25
Define football fan? Ironically there aren't that many that post regularly in this thread.

Obviously I can't disclose, but I will say that he/she wasn't on their own.
Yate, Nr Bristol
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wallaw
13 February 2012 07:56:16

Bugger!! I've missed something.


Saint, repost it.............I dares ya


My take is that Suarez is a horrible sort of chap right up there with Craig Bellamy, but then Evra is not blameless in all this. The group of individuals that are most at fault however are the Premier league, they made too much of the original incident (there I have said it, I'm far from being a racist and don't want it in football or society, but a conversation between 2 people on a football pitch should remain between the two) and they have allowed this to happen by not being proactive in preventing it.


I do agree with Nick as well, a load of fuss about very little.

Ian


Stockton-on-Tees
Gooner
13 February 2012 09:09:56

I also put in a post yesterday that the comments should be removed from TWO as someone would find them offensive.


I am no prude and can have a laugh all day long but in this politically correct world it wasn't right that such an excellent site like this with great people on it should have left the comments on for all to see.


I have a black friend ( more than one actually ) who commented last weekend " if it snows any harder I won't see you" it is all humour , some can take it some can't............................it aint worth the risk

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
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CAPE-steve
13 February 2012 11:29:20

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