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Saint Snow
08 April 2012 20:17:54


Another questionable decision at Old Trafford today, surely not??


That being said, gulp, you can say it - come on - yes, United ARE more worthy of the title this season than any of the 'pretenders!   


Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


 


They've just ground teams down all through the season. A scum-U team devoid of the talent & skill of the past (look at the difference an aged and arthritic Scholes being brought out of retirement has made!) but doing just enough to win games (although often with the huge help from refs and slices of luck we've become accustomed to).


If you rated each of the scummers' squad out of 10, there'd be a lot of 6- and 7-out-of-tens. Their pitiful displays in Europe this season have been ample demonstration of that. But what they do very well is work their nads off, not giving the other team any time on the ball. They've also built up over their years of dominance a kind of hoodoo over opposition teams, who all too often seem to be resigned to losing before they step foot on the pitch.


Baconface has worked miracles with a severely limited squad.


 



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David M Porter
08 April 2012 21:06:05



Another questionable decision at Old Trafford today, surely not??


That being said, gulp, you can say it - come on - yes, United ARE more worthy of the title this season than any of the 'pretenders!   


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


They've just ground teams down all through the season. A scum-U team devoid of the talent & skill of the past (look at the difference an aged and arthritic Scholes being brought out of retirement has made!) but doing just enough to win games (although often with the huge help from refs and slices of luck we've become accustomed to).


If you rated each of the scummers' squad out of 10, there'd be a lot of 6- and 7-out-of-tens. Their pitiful displays in Europe this season have been ample demonstration of that. But what they do very well is work their nads off, not giving the other team any time on the ball. They've also built up over their years of dominance a kind of hoodoo over opposition teams, who all too often seem to be resigned to losing before they step foot on the pitch.


Baconface has worked miracles with a severely limited squad.


 


Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


Which is precisely the same as he did while manager of Aberdeen in the 80's, thus why Man Utd were after him for most of 1986 before Big Ron was given his jotters in November of that year.


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future_is_orange
08 April 2012 21:40:08

You dont win the prem league title thru poor or favourable refereeing decisions....the team who wins the title deserves it for being the best team !

Saint Snow
08 April 2012 21:41:30


You dont win the prem league title thru poor or favourable refereeing decisions....


Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


 


But it helps.... which is what I said




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David M Porter
08 April 2012 21:49:20



You dont win the prem league title thru poor or favourable refereeing decisions....


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


But it helps.... which is what I said



Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


Fair point Saint. As an example of a refereeing decision helping a good team to win a trophy, West Germany were for me the best team at the 1990 World Cup and deserved to win the tournament, but many still say that they won it in the end thanks to a hugely debatable penalty (it wasn't a penalty for me anyway!)


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Gary L
09 April 2012 11:49:13



Another questionable decision at Old Trafford today, surely not??


That being said, gulp, you can say it - come on - yes, United ARE more worthy of the title this season than any of the 'pretenders!   


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


They've just ground teams down all through the season. A scum-U team devoid of the talent & skill of the past (look at the difference an aged and arthritic Scholes being brought out of retirement has made!) but doing just enough to win games (although often with the huge help from refs and slices of luck we've become accustomed to).


If you rated each of the scummers' squad out of 10, there'd be a lot of 6- and 7-out-of-tens. Their pitiful displays in Europe this season have been ample demonstration of that. But what they do very well is work their nads off, not giving the other team any time on the ball. They've also built up over their years of dominance a kind of hoodoo over opposition teams, who all too often seem to be resigned to losing before they step foot on the pitch.


Baconface has worked miracles with a severely limited squad.


 


Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


I hear this time and time again and I don't understand it. There seems to be a need for the opposition to make themselves feel better by convincing themselves that we aren't actually that good.


The only weakness we have is in midfield, although Scholes has come back in and despite being written off as aged and arthritic has been running games. Carrick has also been fantastic this season, although we do need to strengthen centre midfield.


Everywhere else we are extremely strong. Valencia, Nani, Young, Giggs on the wings is better than anything else in the league. Rooney is one of the best players in the world and I don't even need to mention our defense which is easily the best in the league.

SEMerc
09 April 2012 12:16:27




Another questionable decision at Old Trafford today, surely not??


That being said, gulp, you can say it - come on - yes, United ARE more worthy of the title this season than any of the 'pretenders!   


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


 


They've just ground teams down all through the season. A scum-U team devoid of the talent & skill of the past (look at the difference an aged and arthritic Scholes being brought out of retirement has made!) but doing just enough to win games (although often with the huge help from refs and slices of luck we've become accustomed to).


If you rated each of the scummers' squad out of 10, there'd be a lot of 6- and 7-out-of-tens. Their pitiful displays in Europe this season have been ample demonstration of that. But what they do very well is work their nads off, not giving the other team any time on the ball. They've also built up over their years of dominance a kind of hoodoo over opposition teams, who all too often seem to be resigned to losing before they step foot on the pitch.


Baconface has worked miracles with a severely limited squad.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I hear this time and time again and I don't understand it. There seems to be a need for the opposition to make themselves feel better by convincing themselves that we aren't actually that good.


The only weakness we have is in midfield, although Scholes has come back in and despite being written off as aged and arthritic has been running games. Carrick has also been fantastic this season, although we do need to strengthen centre midfield.


Everywhere else we are extremely strong. Valencia, Nani, Young, Giggs on the wings is better than anything else in the league. Rooney is one of the best players in the world and I don't even need to mention our defense which is easily the best in the league.


Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


No, you've got it round the wrong way - a common trait among Unaaated fans.


Manchester United are a good team and deserving of the title, because the opposition have not stepped up to the plate on a consistent basis this season.


Manchester United are NOT a great team.

Romfordman
09 April 2012 12:25:59

Controversial striker Mario Balotelli will not be picked again this season by Manchester City and is likely to be sold at the end of the campaign, said manager Roberto Mancini after their 1-0 Premier League defeat at Arsenal.


That sounds familiar somehow


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SEMerc
09 April 2012 13:14:19


Controversial striker Mario Balotelli will not be picked again this season by Manchester City and is likely to be sold at the end of the campaign, said manager Roberto Mancini after their 1-0 Premier League defeat at Arsenal.


That sounds familiar somehow


Originally Posted by: Romfordman 


If I were Levy, I'd put in a bid for Balotelli. Excellent player who needs proper man management. Mancini seemingly can't do it.


Anyway, it's academic as Balotelli will probably be off to Inter.

Saint Snow
09 April 2012 15:28:01





Another questionable decision at Old Trafford today, surely not??


That being said, gulp, you can say it - come on - yes, United ARE more worthy of the title this season than any of the 'pretenders!   


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


They've just ground teams down all through the season. A scum-U team devoid of the talent & skill of the past (look at the difference an aged and arthritic Scholes being brought out of retirement has made!) but doing just enough to win games (although often with the huge help from refs and slices of luck we've become accustomed to).


If you rated each of the scummers' squad out of 10, there'd be a lot of 6- and 7-out-of-tens. Their pitiful displays in Europe this season have been ample demonstration of that. But what they do very well is work their nads off, not giving the other team any time on the ball. They've also built up over their years of dominance a kind of hoodoo over opposition teams, who all too often seem to be resigned to losing before they step foot on the pitch.


Baconface has worked miracles with a severely limited squad.


 


Originally Posted by: Gary L 


I hear this time and time again and I don't understand it. There seems to be a need for the opposition to make themselves feel better by convincing themselves that we aren't actually that good.


The only weakness we have is in midfield, although Scholes has come back in and despite being written off as aged and arthritic has been running games. Carrick has also been fantastic this season, although we do need to strengthen centre midfield.


Everywhere else we are extremely strong. Valencia, Nani, Young, Giggs on the wings is better than anything else in the league. Rooney is one of the best players in the world and I don't even need to mention our defense which is easily the best in the league.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


No, you've got it round the wrong way - a common trait among Unaaated fans.


Manchester United are a good team and deserving of the title, because the opposition have not stepped up to the plate on a consistent basis this season.


Manchester United are NOT a great team.


Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


 


Exactly. It's a [reluctant] praise of Baconface's managerial ability to get the most out of his team of pretty average players.


If they were a good team, they wouldn't have been played off the park several times in Europe this season by European also-rans.



Martin
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Romfordman
09 April 2012 15:37:30

Well I am a bit surprised at the score at Spurs, they seem intent on throwing it all away, at the last.


They could end up 5th.


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Romfordman
09 April 2012 15:50:38

Everton winning 4-0 v Sunderland


Newcastle 2-0 against Bolton


Spurs 1 -2 v Norwich


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SEMerc
09 April 2012 15:58:31

It's time for 'Arry to go, methinks. Mind you, I've been saying that for the last year. What's different this time round is that Spurs fans are going to turn on him in a big way after today's woeful performance.

Romfordman
09 April 2012 16:01:54


It's time for 'Arry to go, methinks. Mind you, I've been saying that for the last year. What's different this time round is that Spurs fans are going to turn on him in a big way after today's woeful performance.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Can't make it out, they don't seem to have a clue, how to play anymore.


5th or even 6th beckons at this rate


 


Richard
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SEMerc
09 April 2012 16:14:16



It's time for 'Arry to go, methinks. Mind you, I've been saying that for the last year. What's different this time round is that Spurs fans are going to turn on him in a big way after today's woeful performance.


Originally Posted by: Romfordman 


Can't make it out, they don't seem to have a clue, how to play anymore.


5th or even 6th beckons at this rate


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Problem is, Levy can't sack 'Arry yet. We are well and truly screwed.

haghir22
09 April 2012 18:46:39

What about Ben Arfa's goal eh?


YNWA
haghir22
09 April 2012 18:48:34

...and on to Ewood the derailing Liverpool train arrives tomorrow. Last three games we have given 7 points to surrounding relegation fighters....Oh well least we are making the bottom of the table interesting....


YNWA
Karl Guille
09 April 2012 20:54:50

Can't hide my disappointment over today's result but dear old Fulham (and Uncle Martin) have at least kept us in fourth spot as we head into FA Cup Semi-Final Weekend!


St. Sampson
Guernsey
Romfordman
09 April 2012 21:05:46


Can't hide my disappointment over today's result but dear old Fulham (and Uncle Martin) have at least kept us in fourth spot as we head into FA Cup Semi-Final Weekend!


Originally Posted by: Karl Guille 


Yes, Chelsea don't look unbeatable, however sadly, Spurs by way of reverse do look beatable.


Richard
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Brian Gaze
10 April 2012 07:31:54


Problem is, Levy can't sack 'Arry yet. We are well and truly screwed.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


You'd better hope that Greenwood Woy is wrong thinking he's in with a shot at the England job then.


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wallaw
10 April 2012 08:07:39



Problem is, Levy can't sack 'Arry yet. We are well and truly screwed.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


You'd better hope that Greenwood Woy is wrong thinking he's in with a shot at the England job then.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


As an England fan, I would say Woy and Arry are about evens and at least Woy has international experience


Ian


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Brian Gaze
10 April 2012 09:09:05




Problem is, Levy can't sack 'Arry yet. We are well and truly screwed.


Originally Posted by: wallaw 


You'd better hope that Greenwood Woy is wrong thinking he's in with a shot at the England job then.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


As an England Arsenal fan, I would say Woy and Arry are about evens and at least Woy has international experience


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Fair enough.


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Gooner
10 April 2012 09:11:43




It's time for 'Arry to go, methinks. Mind you, I've been saying that for the last year. What's different this time round is that Spurs fans are going to turn on him in a big way after today's woeful performance.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Can't make it out, they don't seem to have a clue, how to play anymore.


5th or even 6th beckons at this rate


 


Originally Posted by: Romfordman 


Problem is, Levy can't sack 'Arry yet. We are well and truly screwed.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Weren't some Spurs fans on here saying best Spurs squad for 30 years?? 


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SEMerc
10 April 2012 09:16:04





It's time for 'Arry to go, methinks. Mind you, I've been saying that for the last year. What's different this time round is that Spurs fans are going to turn on him in a big way after today's woeful performance.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Can't make it out, they don't seem to have a clue, how to play anymore.


5th or even 6th beckons at this rate


 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Problem is, Levy can't sack 'Arry yet. We are well and truly screwed.


Originally Posted by: Romfordman 


Weren't some Spurs fans on here saying best Spurs squad for 30 years?? 


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Yep, and I still maintain that. Problem is, we have a manager with the tactical nous of a concussed slug. Yesterday's fiasco was only the latest instalment.

Romfordman
10 April 2012 09:50:19






It's time for 'Arry to go, methinks. Mind you, I've been saying that for the last year. What's different this time round is that Spurs fans are going to turn on him in a big way after today's woeful performance.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Can't make it out, they don't seem to have a clue, how to play anymore.


5th or even 6th beckons at this rate


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Problem is, Levy can't sack 'Arry yet. We are well and truly screwed.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Weren't some Spurs fans on here saying best Spurs squad for 30 years?? 


Originally Posted by: Romfordman 


Yep, and I still maintain that. Problem is, we have a manager with the tactical nous of a concussed slug. Yesterday's fiasco was only the latest instalment.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Good squad, just that the manager, needs a new brain injected in. 


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