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Brian Gaze
11 July 2013 18:24:48

I wonder what Bob Willis will make of it. He is not afraid of calling umpires cheats and being crap ala his best mate Daryl Harper.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


He's rarely got a good word to say about anybody.


Overall that was a superb day of test match cricket. One of the best seen in the modern era.

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Arcus
11 July 2013 18:26:15

Some common sense batting at last from AC and KP. Time is not an issue in this match, it's all about not giving your wicket away cheaply. Doesn't matter if they score at 2 runs an over or less. If England get a lead of over 200, I would fancy them strongly. Swanny (and also don't forget Root as an occasional spinner) will do well on this wicket on end of Day 3 and Day 4. 


Vital that England bat out most of tomorrow.

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Matty H
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11 July 2013 18:30:32

Some common sense batting at last from AC and KP. Time is not an issue in this match, it's all about not giving your wicket away cheaply. Doesn't matter if they score at 2 runs an over or less. If England get a lead of over 200, I would fancy them strongly. Swanny (and also don't forget Root as an occasional spinner) will do well on this wicket on end of Day 3 and Day 4.
Vital that England bat out most of tomorrow.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 



If they can bat until just after tea then they should be up around a 200 lead. I reckon they need 280+ lead to be relatively comfortable. I'm not convinced the pitch is going to deteriorate that much. The cracks have barely changed since the start. Swann will be relying on foot marks, and with it staying bone dry and sunny there won't be any conventional swing for Anderson. Finn was largely rubbish today and Broad is clearly in pain.

So finely balanced
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Saint Snow
11 July 2013 18:32:34


Vital that England bat out most of tomorrow.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Cook has the ability to do so when he's on form, but his form isn't great of late. KP also has the ability, obviously, but he's short on cricket and his temperament has always been suspect, especially when he's not playing his natural game. Bell is a confidence player, currently with a lack of confidence. Jury's well and truly still out on Bairstow.


I think England will reach 250-300, but the lower end of that is a pitiful lead to defend.


Still f***ing fuming at the horror show of dross served up by England after getting right on top of the convicts.


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Ally Pally Snowman
11 July 2013 18:46:05

Could go either way tomorrow we need to show some bottle. If we lose a couple of earlier wickets we are in the merde big time. Its 50/50 at this stage.


 


 

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Arcus
11 July 2013 18:46:48



Vital that England bat out most of tomorrow.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Cook has the ability to do so when he's on form, but his form isn't great of late. KP also has the ability, obviously, but he's short on cricket and his temperament has always been suspect, especially when he's not playing his natural game. Bell is a confidence player, currently with a lack of confidence. Jury's well and truly still out on Bairstow.


I think England will reach 250-300, but the lower end of that is a pitiful lead to defend.


Still f***ing fuming at the horror show of dross served up by England after getting right on top of the convicts.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Yes, KP always looks like he's a mongrel straining against the leash on the first day of Obedience Class in these situations, and as you say the lack of top-class innings recently doesn't help.


On their day, many of the England middle order can dish up some punishment, but confidence does appear to be abnormally low.


As I said previously I won't be reaching for the Gillettes if England fail to post a 300 lead, and I do honestly feel that 250 would be a very tall order for the Aussie batsmen.

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Arcus
11 July 2013 19:01:47

Have to say I admired the 30 ft sausage of empty plastic beer mugs being swayed around by the Green and Gold Fans on the TV. Most of that would have been consumed during their batting collapse and subsequent Lazarus escape.

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Saint Snow
11 July 2013 19:41:04

Still seething



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Arcus
11 July 2013 19:50:21
Many more twists to come in this Test, never mind the next nine. Superb theatre.
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Gooner
11 July 2013 19:53:46


Could go either way tomorrow we need to show some bottle. If we lose a couple of earlier wickets we are in the merde big time. Its 50/50 at this stage.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I agree, if we lose a couple of quick wickets we could be in big trouble

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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11 July 2013 20:04:04


Could go either way tomorrow we need to show some bottle. If we lose a couple of earlier wickets we are in the merde big time. Its 50/50 at this stage.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I agree, if we lose a couple of quick wickets we could be in big trouble

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 



Will be in big trouble. "Will"
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Arcus
11 July 2013 20:10:28

Possible morning cloud cover tomorrow as well 


 


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11 July 2013 20:35:34
Who said about Bob Willis? He's just tearing an absolute strip off the third umpire, calling the stumping a shocking and disgraceful decision. He's right. Even the Tom Moody agrees with him, and he's just called the Trott decision "staggeringly bad"
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Gooner
11 July 2013 20:42:52

Who said about Bob Willis? He's just tearing an absolute strip off the third umpire, calling the stumping a shocking and disgraceful decision. He's right. Even the Tom Moody agrees with him, and he's just called the Trott decision "staggeringly bad"

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Im watching that , clearly backed up most peoples thoughts

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SydneyonTees
11 July 2013 21:06:34


Still seething



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Chilllax, long way to go yet and at least you don't have to front up to a work place full of Aussies this morning 


I always give as good as I get mind, but I think this morning I need to acknowledge the great knock by Agar.


My prediction of Australia batting last and needing say between 150 - 180 to win might not be too far off perhaps, but I worry that the pitch won't be as bad as needed.

Gooner
11 July 2013 22:20:48



Still seething



Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Chilllax, long way to go yet and at least you don't have to front up to a work place full of Aussies this morning 


I always give as good as I get mind, but I think this morning I need to acknowledge the great knock by Agar.


My prediction of Australia batting last and needing say between 150 - 180 to win might not be too far off perhaps, but I worry that the pitch won't be as bad as needed.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


If the Aussies need less than 2000 to win I think they will get them and clinch the test. All over on Saturday I think

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Gandalf The White
11 July 2013 22:23:04


Could go either way tomorrow we need to show some bottle. If we lose a couple of earlier wickets we are in the merde big time. Its 50/50 at this stage.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I agree, if we lose a couple of quick wickets we could be in big trouble

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Will be in big trouble. "Will"

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Not sure - Root played a loose stroke, or rather an unncessary wave at an innocous leg side ball.   Trott's dismissal proved once again (following Bell's stumping) that the 3rd umpire needs to have a card with "Benefit of the doubt" stapled to his hand.


So, the bowlers were not especially threatening - no more than you would expect of a Test attack.  I doubt that the conditions tomorrow morning will be as testing.


Peterson is due a decent score and Cook looks quite settled, so I'm going to be optimistic.

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Gooner
11 July 2013 22:24:37



Could go either way tomorrow we need to show some bottle. If we lose a couple of earlier wickets we are in the merde big time. Its 50/50 at this stage.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I agree, if we lose a couple of quick wickets we could be in big trouble

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Will be in big trouble. "Will"

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Not sure - Root played a loose stroke, or rather an unncessary wave at an innocous leg side ball.   Trott's dismissal proved once again (following Bell's stumping) that the 3rd umpire needs to have a card with "Benefit of the doubt" stapled to his hand.


So, the bowlers were not especially threatening - no more than you would expect of a Test attack.  I doubt that the conditions tomorrow morning will be as testing.


Peterson is due a decent score and Cook looks quite settled, so I'm going to be optimistic.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


So is Bell, his place is under pressure, he does need a decent knock


 

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Saint Snow
11 July 2013 23:05:31


If the Aussies need less than 2000 to win I think they will get them and clinch the test. All over on Saturday I think


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


2000? How many you expecting Agar to score next time round?


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Gandalf The White
12 July 2013 00:02:53


If the Aussies need less than 2000 to win I think they will get them and clinch the test. All over on Saturday I think


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


2000? How many you expecting Agar to score next time round?

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Whatever he scores I bet he isn't batting at No.11 again.

It's interesting that the bowlers always talk of having plans of how to bowl at a batsman. I wonder if they've ever seen him bat before and didn't know how to work him out. A bit of a surprise but I'd be more surprised if they make as big a collective error in the future.
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bowser
12 July 2013 05:54:59


If the Aussies need less than 2000 to win I think they will get them and clinch the test. All over on Saturday I think


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


2000? How many you expecting Agar to score next time round?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Whatever he scores I bet he isn't batting at No.11 again.

It's interesting that the bowlers always talk of having plans of how to bowl at a batsman. I wonder if they've ever seen him bat before and didn't know how to work him out. A bit of a surprise but I'd be more surprised if they make as big a collective error in the future.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



I would have been more inclined to bowl over the wicket and push it across him a foot outside off and take one side of the field out of the equation and also to bring the slippers into play. I don't think he would be the type to be happy to leave those wider deliveries.
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12 July 2013 06:22:44


Still seething



Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Chilllax, long way to go yet and at least you don't have to front up to a work place full of Aussies this morning 


I always give as good as I get mind, but I think this morning I need to acknowledge the great knock by Agar.


My prediction of Australia batting last and needing say between 150 - 180 to win might not be too far off perhaps, but I worry that the pitch won't be as bad as needed.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



You've always got the ultimate put down that has no retort:

"Hello. I'm English, you're Australian"

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Gooner
12 July 2013 06:47:15



Still seething



Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Chilllax, long way to go yet and at least you don't have to front up to a work place full of Aussies this morning 


I always give as good as I get mind, but I think this morning I need to acknowledge the great knock by Agar.


My prediction of Australia batting last and needing say between 150 - 180 to win might not be too far off perhaps, but I worry that the pitch won't be as bad as needed.


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 



You've always got the ultimate put down that has no retort:

"Hello. I'm English, you're Australian"

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



And of course reminding them how they all ended up in Australia

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Gandalf The White
12 July 2013 07:29:03



Still seething



Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Chilllax, long way to go yet and at least you don't have to front up to a work place full of Aussies this morning 


I always give as good as I get mind, but I think this morning I need to acknowledge the great knock by Agar.


My prediction of Australia batting last and needing say between 150 - 180 to win might not be too far off perhaps, but I worry that the pitch won't be as bad as needed.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



You've always got the ultimate put down that has no retort:

"Hello. I'm English, you're Australian"

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 



And of course reminding them how they all ended up in Australia

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



That reminds me of the Ian Botham story. Arriving in Australia the immigration officer is checking his paperwork.
"Do you have a criminal record, Mr Botham?"
Botham: "Why? Is that still a requirement to enter Australia?"

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Arcus
12 July 2013 07:38:42



That reminds me of the Ian Botham story. Arriving in Australia the immigration officer is checking his paperwork.
"Do you have a criminal record, Mr Botham?"
Botham: "Why? Is that still a requirement to enter Australia?"

:-)

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



I always liked Beefy's Ashes retort to Rodney Marsh's sledging attempt:


Rodney Marsh to Ian Botham in an Ashes match: “So how’s your wife and my kids?” Ian Botham’s reply - “The wife’s fine, but the kids are retarded.”


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