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Matty H
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20 July 2013 15:21:50

Good ton by Root, slow but good

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



He's batted like an opener in this innings. Boycott would have been proud of that one. Top innings young-un
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KevBrads1
20 July 2013 15:46:37
Runs are coming quicker now, 458 ahead.

Bell has had two very good Test matches.

Incidentally, the 3 Aussie innings combined, Agar is the only one that has a combined total in three figures.

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Essan
20 July 2013 15:55:18


Good ton by Root, slow but good


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



He's batted like an opener in this innings. Boycott would have been proud of that one. Top innings young-un

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Aye, a good performance for a school kid - he could be pretty good when he grows up


And on a more serious note, I presume now we wait for Bell to get his 4th consecutive Ashes century before declaring?

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KevBrads1
20 July 2013 16:07:02
England have got to watch the weather for Monday. I don't think Monday is a given for being a totally dry day.
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Matty H
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20 July 2013 16:11:45
Pointless batting on it really is.

If we leave it until late first session tomorrow then get any rain Monday, it would be ridiculous. Wouldn't be the first time England have batted on too long in this situation and its cost them a result.
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Gooner
20 July 2013 16:31:23

Pointless batting on it really is.

If we leave it until late first session tomorrow then get any rain Monday, it would be ridiculous. Wouldn't be the first time England have batted on too long in this situation and its cost them a result.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I don't understand it, had cook lost his faith in the bowlers , I doubt it  but it does seem odd, I thought he would have declaredwhen Bell went

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SEMerc
20 July 2013 16:35:26

Obviously the Aussies are now out of this, so I'd have been tempted to move Pieterson up the batting order - smash a few around the ground and then give the Aussies ten overs before close.

Matty H
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20 July 2013 16:37:03

Obviously the Aussies are now out of this, so I'd have been tempted to move Pieterson up the batting order - smash a few around the ground and then give the Aussies ten overs before close.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 



Even though he's already out?
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KevBrads1
20 July 2013 16:38:16

Obviously the Aussies are now out of this, so I'd have been tempted to move Pieterson up the batting order - smash a few around the ground and then give the Aussies ten overs before close.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 




Pietersen is out. He got out playing that abysmal shock last night.
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Matty H
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20 July 2013 16:38:27
Pointless batting on it really is. I hope it rains all day Monday now. Cook has spent too much time under über cautious Strauss. Is he really expecting this shite Aussie side to perform a fourth innings world record on this wicket?
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Gooner
20 July 2013 16:40:42


Obviously the Aussies are now out of this, so I'd have been tempted to move Pieterson up the batting order - smash a few around the ground and then give the Aussies ten overs before close.


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 




Pietersen is out. He got out playing that abysmal shock last night.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Again you have to ask, did he have enough batting before the series?

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SEMerc
20 July 2013 16:41:09


Obviously the Aussies are now out of this, so I'd have been tempted to move Pieterson up the batting order - smash a few around the ground and then give the Aussies ten overs before close.


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 




Pietersen is out. He got out playing that abysmal shock last night.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Doh, quite right. Major brainfart there.

KevBrads1
20 July 2013 16:52:56
I'm getting annoyed. They have got enough runs, they want to maximise the time they have to bowl the Aussies out. What is awkward for the Aussies? Having to bat with 30 minutes left. Playing onto the end of the day and possible even a little bit more tomorrow is a weak tactic.
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Gooner
20 July 2013 16:55:58

Cook is a prat IMO

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Essan
20 July 2013 16:59:23

Nah, gotta let the kid gets his double century.

Bat for 40 minutes tomorrow morning.  Then all home by tea

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SEMerc
20 July 2013 17:04:11


Nah, gotta let the kid gets his double century.

Bat for 40 minutes tomorrow morning.  Then all home by tea


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Yep, declaration after Root is out, or gets his 200 - whichever comes the sooner.

Gooner
20 July 2013 18:16:23

Ok here is a Q


If Cook continues his poor form with the bat and England keep winning, does he stay as Captain? Does he keep his place in the side but lose the captaincy or does he get dropped altogether

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KevBrads1
20 July 2013 19:47:33

Ok here is a Q


If Cook continues his poor form with the bat and England keep winning, does he stay as Captain? Does he keep his place in the side but lose the captaincy or does he get dropped altogether

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



He stays as captain. Just look at Mike Brearley.
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Matty H
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20 July 2013 20:08:07
If the reason for not declaring is to let Root get his 200, that's pathetic. We should have declared as soon as he made his 150
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Gandalf The White
20 July 2013 21:36:49

Pointless batting on it really is.

If we leave it until late first session tomorrow then get any rain Monday, it would be ridiculous. Wouldn't be the first time England have batted on too long in this situation and its cost them a result.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Weren't you implying earlier that the Aussies can't bat?

We're where I expected, with Cook wanting at least 500 runs in the bank and 2 days left. Even if there's some rain on Monday and they lose an hour or two that's still the thick end of 150 overs.

Unless Swann's spinning finger drops off I expect him to be key. If it's turning enough there's always Root and Peterson in reserve.... :-)


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Matty H
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20 July 2013 22:53:51

Pointless batting on it really is.

If we leave it until late first session tomorrow then get any rain Monday, it would be ridiculous. Wouldn't be the first time England have batted on too long in this situation and its cost them a result.

Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Weren't you implying earlier that the Aussies can't bat?

We're where I expected, with Cook wanting at least 500 runs in the bank and 2 days left. Even if there's some rain on Monday and they lose an hour or two that's still the thick end of 150 overs.

Unless Swann's spinning finger drops off I expect him to be key. If it's turning enough there's always Root and Peterson in reserve.... :-)


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Typical wimpish conservatism. I bet you refuse to cross any road in case you get run over 😂
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Gooner
20 July 2013 23:01:17

Pointless batting on it really is.

If we leave it until late first session tomorrow then get any rain Monday, it would be ridiculous. Wouldn't be the first time England have batted on too long in this situation and its cost them a result.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Weren't you implying earlier that the Aussies can't bat?

We're where I expected, with Cook wanting at least 500 runs in the bank and 2 days left. Even if there's some rain on Monday and they lose an hour or two that's still the thick end of 150 overs.

Unless Swann's spinning finger drops off I expect him to be key. If it's turning enough there's always Root and Peterson in reserve.... :-)


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Typical wimpish conservatism. I bet you refuse to cross any road in case you get run over LOL

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Have to say waiting for 500 if over cautious IMO

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SydneyonTees
20 July 2013 23:27:03
Holding made a good point on the commentary last night regarding 4th innings run chases at Lords.

If you look at the stats there are a number of successful chases in the 300's and high 200's with just 1 to 3 wickets down implying that many more runs could have been achieved if required. Lords isn't so bad as a 4th innings place to bat.

However Australia are so useless with the bat that I agree with Matty, time to end the England innings and get the Aussies in now. Maybe let Joe Root smash a few boundaries early on to get his 200, but that is just me wanting to see him get a double ton but probably best for the team just to get the Aussies straight in.
SEMerc
21 July 2013 00:20:56

Holding made a good point on the commentary last night regarding 4th innings run chases at Lords. If you look at the stats there are a number of successful chases in the 300's and high 200's with just 1 to 3 wickets down implying that many more runs could have been achieved if required. Lords isn't so bad as a 4th innings place to bat. However Australia are so useless with the bat that I agree with Matty, time to end the England innings and get the Aussies in now. Maybe let Joe Root smash a few boundaries early on to get his 200, but that is just me wanting to see him get a double ton but probably best for the team just to get the Aussies straight in.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Quite. Which is why I said earlier in this thread that the Aussies should have been forced to follow on, just so they could be ground into the dust.

Gandalf The White
21 July 2013 00:36:23

Pointless batting on it really is.

If we leave it until late first session tomorrow then get any rain Monday, it would be ridiculous. Wouldn't be the first time England have batted on too long in this situation and its cost them a result.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Weren't you implying earlier that the Aussies can't bat?

We're where I expected, with Cook wanting at least 500 runs in the bank and 2 days left. Even if there's some rain on Monday and they lose an hour or two that's still the thick end of 150 overs.

Unless Swann's spinning finger drops off I expect him to be key. If it's turning enough there's always Root and Peterson in reserve.... :-)


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



Typical wimpish conservatism. I bet you refuse to cross any road in case you get run over 😂

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Only when I'm in the Bristol area, Matty....

:-)

Personally I'd tell Root he has 45 minutes to get his 200 and England 600 ahead....
And it'll still be largely done and dusted by stumps...

A win by an innings and 400-odd would be good in terms of the Aussie mindset!

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