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KevBrads1
21 July 2013 19:21:49
England have won 4 consecutive Tests against the Aussies, they last did that in 1928-29

The Aussies have lost 6 consecutive Tests. You have to go back to the 1880s, they last lost 6 on the trot.
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westv
21 July 2013 19:24:14

A bit like the Windies, the Aussies are a has been side.


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21 July 2013 19:24:28

England have won 4 consecutive Tests against the Aussies, they last did that in 1928-29

The Aussies have lost 6 consecutive Tests. You have to go back to the 1880s, they last lost 6 on the trot.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 



How long since 7, 8 or 9? The way they are playing you can only see weather preventing constant defeats.
KevBrads1
21 July 2013 19:27:37

England have won 4 consecutive Tests against the Aussies, they last did that in 1928-29

The Aussies have lost 6 consecutive Tests. You have to go back to the 1880s, they last lost 6 on the trot.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



How long since 7, 8 or 9? The way they are playing you can only see weather preventing constant defeats.

Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 



Sorry I meant the 1980s, they lost 7 against England in the 1880s.


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JHutch
21 July 2013 20:07:30

Two dodgy batting orders, the difference seems to be that for England someone will stick it out and make a big score. Australia have had a dodgy top 3/4 for a while but when Clarke was on top form, and Hussey was playing, then they tended to get Aus out of a hole.

Ally Pally Snowman
21 July 2013 20:22:04

We should really win this 5 - nil if weather allows they are as poor as they ever will be so we need to make the most of it. They used to when we were s***. Root looks like he's already world class amazing effort from him.


 


 


 


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David M Porter
21 July 2013 20:31:50


We should really win this 5 - nil if weather allows they are as poor as they ever will be so we need to make the most of it. They used to when we were s***. Root looks like he's already world class amazing effort from him.


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


IIRC the convicts won the 2006-07 Ashes series on their own soil by that score, only a little more than a year after England had won their first series against the Aussies in 18 years.


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21 July 2013 22:10:48
In the interest of balance, not that I care how much misery the convicts suffer other than I want plenty, Agar was the subject of another dreadful 3rd umpire decision today.
Gandalf The White
21 July 2013 22:30:04


As the Beeb says, the conditions favour putting the Aussies in immediately, given the cloudy conditions, so it seems daft England continuing to bat.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



It's more than just daft, it's just absolutely stupid!

Given the potential for storms Monday (one hefty storm could deposit enough surface water on a hard outfield to wreck half the day) we absolutely categorically should have put them in for an hour last night. A tricky session where you'd have backed us to take a wicket or two against tired players who've been in the field for two days, but no. The record run chase clearly not enough for Cook. He wants to add another 100+ runs on top for no reason whatsoever, or is he putting personal milestones (Root) in front of the team goal? If so he needs his head seeing to.

Batting on this morning in cloudy, muggy conditions, with the lead we have and the forecast for sun this afternoon is stupid. Just stupid.

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


Yip we definitley made a James Hunt of that !!! Kiss

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Hindsight makes that irrelevant.


Point remains. There was no need to bat on like that.

As it turns out if we had completely forfeited our second innings we'd have still won. That's what a drubbing it was.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 



Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The reality is that England didn't need 180 overs to bowl out Australia and therefore batting on this morning wasn't an issue in terms of controlling the outcome. That's all that matters, isn't it?

In Test cricket you don't leave the door ajar for the opposition, however remote the risk.

On to the 3rd Test. My guess is that England will go with the same 12. None of the batsmen will be dropped and talk of Root not being an Opener is off the table for the rest of the series at least. They will persevere with Peterson too.

I wonder what the Aussies will do with their batting? That's a more interesting issue - does Hughes survive or do they bring in Warner? I thought their bowling was just about OK.


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21 July 2013 22:33:51
Their bowling is acceptable, maybe a little more than that. It's hardly rapier class, but it's awkward. The batting lineup is the problem. They don't have one. 😂
Gandalf The White
21 July 2013 23:56:41

Their bowling is acceptable, maybe a little more than that. It's hardly rapier class, but it's awkward. The batting lineup is the problem. They don't have one. 😂

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



As the old joke goes, their batting looks fine on paper..... The trouble is that they have to bat on grass.... 😉
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bowser
22 July 2013 05:01:08

A bit like the Windies, the Aussies are a has been side. UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: westv 



So were England up until 2004... Goes in cycles.

bowser
22 July 2013 05:04:14


As the Beeb says, the conditions favour putting the Aussies in immediately, given the cloudy conditions, so it seems daft England continuing to bat.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



It's more than just daft, it's just absolutely stupid!

Given the potential for storms Monday (one hefty storm could deposit enough surface water on a hard outfield to wreck half the day) we absolutely categorically should have put them in for an hour last night. A tricky session where you'd have backed us to take a wicket or two against tired players who've been in the field for two days, but no. The record run chase clearly not enough for Cook. He wants to add another 100+ runs on top for no reason whatsoever, or is he putting personal milestones (Root) in front of the team goal? If so he needs his head seeing to.

Batting on this morning in cloudy, muggy conditions, with the lead we have and the forecast for sun this afternoon is stupid. Just stupid.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Yip we definitley made a James Hunt of that !!! Kiss

Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 



Hindsight makes that irrelevant.


Point remains. There was no need to bat on like that.

As it turns out if we had completely forfeited our second innings we'd have still won. That's what a drubbing it was.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The reality is that England didn't need 180 overs to bowl out Australia and therefore batting on this morning wasn't an issue in terms of controlling the outcome. That's all that matters, isn't it?

In Test cricket you don't leave the door ajar for the opposition, however remote the risk.

On to the 3rd Test. My guess is that England will go with the same 12. None of the batsmen will be dropped and talk of Root not being an Opener is off the table for the rest of the series at least. They will persevere with Peterson too.

I wonder what the Aussies will do with their batting? That's a more interesting issue - does Hughes survive or do they bring in Warner? I thought their bowling was just about OK.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 



I'd bring in a young guy named Maddinson. Liked the look of him in the under 19 World Cup and the tour matches he played here with Australia A.

SydneyonTees
22 July 2013 06:28:31

Warner has been sent to Zimbabwe to tour with the A side and hasn't been getting runs down there either! He wasn't inform before the incident with Root and there is no saying he will find any form now, I still think they will throw him in the test side at some point.


Watson eitehr has to be dropped or moved down their order, he is in such bad form and has had so many lbw's against him your almost feel sorry for him!

KevBrads1
22 July 2013 06:40:23
I wonder if the Aussies are suffering the same fate as the West Indies did in the late 1990s? The West Indies had a great team from the mid 1970s to early 90s. Then their great players started to retire but the pool of talent was drying up to replace them.

The Aussies had that 15 years of dominance with great players retiring and being replaced by exceptional players. Now they have gone but where is the talent to replace them? The pool of talent seems to have dried up.

Watson is not an opener in my books at the Test level. They dug up a guy in his mid 30s ala Chris Rogers to be his opening partner. Are there no younger openers in Aussie cricket at the moment? They have been searching for a replacement to Warne which is haunting the selectors. The selectors are treating Nathan Lyon, the spinner with some contempt. They have resurrected Haddin as a wicketkeeper.
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22 July 2013 06:46:12
Watson has a massive technical flaw in his game. I'm reliably informed that he is having his name changed to Watson-LBW, so it matches any convicts batting card that he's on.
turbotubbs
22 July 2013 08:36:13

Watson has a massive technical flaw in his game. I'm reliably informed that he is having his name changed to Watson-LBW, so it matches any convicts batting card that he's on.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Love it.


 


Can you also work something in about wasting a review too...


Glorious day sunday - weather superb, Froome wins the Tour, and the Aussies disintegrating before our eyes. Even the hope of dragging it into the last day dashed. For anyone who says we shouldn't gloat and should feel sorry for the Aussies I will simply say I was an England cricket fan from 1989 to 2005, unlike some of the band wagon jumper onners out there!

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22 July 2013 08:49:52

Watson has a massive technical flaw in his game. I'm reliably informed that he is having his name changed to Watson-LBW, so it matches any convicts batting card that he's on.

Originally Posted by: turbotubbs 


Love it.

Can you also work something in about wasting a review too...
Glorious day sunday - weather superb, Froome wins the Tour, and the Aussies disintegrating before our eyes. Even the hope of dragging it into the last day dashed. For anyone who says we shouldn't gloat and should feel sorry for the Aussies I will simply say I was an England cricket fan from 1989 to 2005, unlike some of the band wagon jumper onners out there!

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



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SydneyonTees
22 July 2013 08:54:37

Watson has a massive technical flaw in his game. I'm reliably informed that he is having his name changed to Watson-LBW, so it matches any convicts batting card that he's on.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Love it. Can you also work something in about wasting a review too... Glorious day sunday - weather superb, Froome wins the Tour, and the Aussies disintegrating before our eyes. Even the hope of dragging it into the last day dashed. For anyone who says we shouldn't gloat and should feel sorry for the Aussies I will simply say I was an England cricket fan from 1989 to 2005, unlike some of the band wagon jumper onners out there!

Originally Posted by: turbotubbs 

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Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


 I started watching test cricket in 1987 at the age of 10, I would be well in to my 20's by the time we won the ashes for the first time in my memory! Another 10 years or so of thrashing the Aussies will just about make up for it.

Gooner
22 July 2013 12:34:55


Watson has a massive technical flaw in his game. I'm reliably informed that he is having his name changed to Watson-LBW, so it matches any convicts batting card that he's on.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 

Love it. Can you also work something in about wasting a review too... Glorious day sunday - weather superb, Froome wins the Tour, and the Aussies disintegrating before our eyes. Even the hope of dragging it into the last day dashed. For anyone who says we shouldn't gloat and should feel sorry for the Aussies I will simply say I was an England cricket fan from 1989 to 2005, unlike some of the band wagon jumper onners out there!

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

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Originally Posted by: turbotubbs 


 


 I started watching test cricket in 1987 at the age of 10, I would be well in to my 20's by the time we won the ashes for the first time in my memory! Another 10 years or so of thrashing the Aussies will just about make up for it.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I started in the 70's I'm afraid and for me it is still the best form of cricket there is, I remember when Sunday was a day off and the test would finish on a Tuesday. Seen England get many a hammering so it is good to  see Australia  on the receiving end


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bowser
22 July 2013 13:06:39



Watson has a massive technical flaw in his game. I'm reliably informed that he is having his name changed to Watson-LBW, so it matches any convicts batting card that he's on.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Love it. Can you also work something in about wasting a review too... Glorious day sunday - weather superb, Froome wins the Tour, and the Aussies disintegrating before our eyes. Even the hope of dragging it into the last day dashed. For anyone who says we shouldn't gloat and should feel sorry for the Aussies I will simply say I was an England cricket fan from 1989 to 2005, unlike some of the band wagon jumper onners out there!

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 

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Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


 I started watching test cricket in 1987 at the age of 10, I would be well in to my 20's by the time we won the ashes for the first time in my memory! Another 10 years or so of thrashing the Aussies will just about make up for it.


Originally Posted by: turbotubbs 


I started in the 70's I'm afraid and for me it is still the best form of cricket there is, I remember when Sunday was a day off and the test would finish on a Tuesday. Seen England get many a hammering so it is good to  see Australia  on the receiving end


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Hooked since seeing the genius of Lara on the 1995 tour by the Windies and have been mainly disappointed by much of their performances since!


First match I ever sat and watched for more than 2mins was this one: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/63612.html... Vividly remember thinking how anyone could bat as long as Border and Waugh. Think I was being initiated for the next decade of Aussie dominance.

JoeShmoe99
22 July 2013 17:02:26

If the royal baby was an Aussie, it'd be out by now Cool

Gooner
22 July 2013 21:35:57

Australians best batsman Pattinson out for the rest of the series


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22 July 2013 21:38:48

Australians best batsman Pattinson out for the rest of the series

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



I was listening to Glenn McGrath on 5 Live earlier. He sounded like someone had died. It was wonderful 😁
Gooner
22 July 2013 23:13:12

Australians best batsman Pattinson out for the rest of the series

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I was listening to Glenn McGrath on 5 Live earlier. He sounded like someone had died. It was wonderful 😁

Originally Posted by: Gooner 



Pattinson IMO is a very good player and boy will they miss him


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