History shows you can't look past the South Americans , I would be surprised if one of the Europeans won the WC
Originally Posted by: future_is_orange
True we can never discount them completely, but having said that in 2006 Italy won it and then Spain in 2010. In both those finals those 4 teams were European teams (Italy-France 2006) (Spain-Netherlands 2010).....but no South American ones present.
3 out of the past 4 world cups have seen a European Winner.
Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather
Of all the world cups played in southern / central america only winners have been from S America . No European team has won there... A few have already mentioned Brazil are strong favourites
Originally Posted by: future_is_orange
Of all the world cups European teams have won more - No superstition in that 
Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather
Err think your missing the point.... NO EUROPEAN TEAM Has won the Cup in South / Central America so your comment is totaly insignificant with the exception it probably means more world cups have been held outside of south and central America.
Originally Posted by: future_is_orange
Doesn't matter - the new future can be written, absolutely no reason to say a European team won't win the whole thing over there just because of what's happened in the past.
In that regard fairy superstitions from you're part don't count. I don't believe 1 magpie will give me bad luck.
Europe has dominated the world cup in terms of overall wins.......just. Most likely due to Europes strengths in all areas maybe even better training facilities, whereas south American teams concentrate far more only on attack. You won't win all time with just a great attack. At some point you have to defend when you meet better teams after the groups, and that's where they slipped up over the past 2 world cups.
In fact looking at their provisional lineup I would say Spain has a fantastic chance to hold on to the cup and be only the 3rd team to do it after first Italy and then Brazil. Spain are not any weaker than 4 years ago.
Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather
Spain certainly are weaker than 4 years ago !!! The team was very much based upon Xavi and insists who 4 years ago were in their prime. Spain do carry the same threat as 4 years ago.
Originally Posted by: future_is_orange
Nonsense 2 players don't win world cups you obviously know little about football 
and you probably haven't bothered to look through Spains squad.........also check their performances this season and a lot of them have been phenomenal.
Goalkeepers: David De Gea (Manchester United), Iker Casillas (Real Madrid) Pepe Reina (Liverpool)
Defenders: Dani Carvajal, Sergio Ramos (both Real Madrid), Gerard Pique, Jordi Alba (both Barcelona), Cesar Azplicueta (Chelsea), Juanfran (Atletico Madrid), Javi Martinez (Bayern Munich), Raul Albiol (Napoli), Alberto Moreno (Sevilla).
Midfielders: Sergio Busquets, Xavi Hernandez, Andres Iniesta, Cesc Fabregas (all Barcelona), Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), Ander Iturraspe (Athletic Bilbao), David Silva (Manchester City), Santi Cazorla (Arsenal), Koke (Atletico Madrid), Tiago Alcantara (Bayern Munich), Juan Mata (Manchester United), Jesus Navas (Manchester City).
Forwards: Diego Costa, David Villa (both Atletico Madrid), Alvaro Negredo (Manchester City), Pedro Rodriguez (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Juventus), Fernando Torres (Chelsea).
Weaker squad, no way! pretty much the same strength as 4 years ago, just a couple of players back who were in their prime are now replaced by ones in their prime right now. But having said that players like Iniesta should still be in his prime now, he's 30 not 35. With Xavi that is understandable as he is 34 1/2 so close to bein ruled out completely.
Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather