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GIBBY
18 June 2014 07:24:57

HERE IS MY LATEST ANALYSIS FROM THE OUTPUTS OF THE WEATHER COMPUTER PREDICTION MODELS FOR TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY WEDNESDAY JUNE 18TH 2014.


THE CURRENT GENERAL SITUATION. High pressure remains slow moving just to the West of Northern ireland with a NW flow over Scotland and a NNE flow over the South. Occasional weak troughs will spill South across the nation at times.


GFS The GFS Ensembles today shows High pressure anchored to the West of the UK for some time yet before pressure slowly falls and the High centre becomes more ill defined. With resulting slack pressure gradients cooler upper with time seep down across the UK from the North with a few showers possible. Then right at the end of the period there is an increased risk of Atlantic Low pressure finally making it through the High pressure block with breezier weather likely then with occasional rain but this is a long way out and by no means a definite.


UKMO UKMO closes this morning's run with High pressure still in control with the main centre to the SW with a strong ridge over the UK maintaining dry and bright conditions for many with some warm sunshine through variable cloud cover.


GEM The GEM operational today is having none of the deterioration in conditions that some of the other output shows with High pressure early next week if anything intensifying across the UK with further warm and dry conditions for most areas with sunny spells and light winds.


NAVGEM NAVGEM shows High pressure receding somewhat towards the Azores next week but maintaining a link across the UK with relatively fine weather for most bar the odd shower. Temperatures will be maintained close to or occasionally above average dependant on cloud cover and location day to day.


ECM The ECM operational today is the most definitive in showing pressure leaking away next week with an eventual Atlantic breakthrough sown to have occurred for all by later next week. Should it verify the fine and occasionally warm conditions will give way to rain and breezier weather from the Atlantic later. It will be beneficial to see where this operational fits within it's ensembles before we talk about a change or new trend to the course of likely events.


MY THOUGHTS  The models continue to promote a lot of fine and dry weather across the UK over the next week or two. Wall to Wall sunshine remains unlikely with some days warmer and sunnier than others and the odd shower will remain a risk. It's as usual in the latter stages of this morning's output that signs of change are shown with the ECM operational in the forefront of a change to breezier and more Atlantic mobile type weather later next week though at the time of this report it's ensembles were not issued to back up this theory. There are other signs though within the GFS Ensembles that also back up this theory albeit slightly later still in the period. GEM and UKMO look likely to hold on to fine weather well into next week at least with a strong ridge remaining in control across the UK from the SW. So in summary the weather will remain quite useable for some considerable time yet and while it remains unlikely to become uncomfortably warm it will be pleasantly warm for many due to cloud amounts sometimes rather large across the UK restricting the power of the sun somewhat.


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Stormchaser
18 June 2014 11:27:27

The models still show notable differences in how the Scandi trough behaves and also the ridge through the UK from the SW. This occurs as early as day 4, so at this stage, anything beyond Friday is uncertain, mainly in terms of the details for the weekend, and then in terms of the broader scale pattern next week.


A key issue at hand continues to be whether the Atlantic will see stronger westerlies and hence trough activity soon enough for the jet stream to power across to Scandinavia, removing the ridge from the UK and leaving us prone to an unsettled run of days, which is what the ECM 00z op run shows.


GFS, GEM and FIM (a model viewable on meteociel.fr, which I'm told is an evolution of the GFS model that may take over later this year) runs all refrain from this scenario, with the jet having to find a more complicated route going east from the Atlantic, and the ridge of high pressure putting up more of a fight, particularly in the case of GEM, with FIM close behind.


 


Here's a link directly to the FIM output:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/fime_cartes.php?ech=6&mode=0&carte=0&archive=0


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Brian Gaze
18 June 2014 12:13:23


GFS, GEM and FIM (a model viewable on meteociel.fr, which I'm told is an evolution of the GFS model that may take over later this year) runs all refrain from this scenario, with the jet having to find a more complicated route going east from the Atlantic, and the ridge of high pressure putting up more of a fight, particularly in the case of GEM, with FIM close behind.


 Here's a link directly to the FIM output:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/fime_cartes.php?ech=6&mode=0&carte=0&archive=0


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


It has been around for several years and often uses the previous version of the GFS physics model. It's horizontal resolution is finite (30km or perhaps 15km) rather than spectral (unlike the GFS) and so is set up more like mesoscale models I think. There are other changes and the verification stats are claimed to be statistically better than the GFS, but the ones I've seen looked verrrryy similar.


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schmee
18 June 2014 19:27:04


Hi all,
I've done a longer range video update:
July To Septmeber From JMA;
http://www.gavsweathervids.com 
Late summer looking very, very good on this update.UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


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Originally Posted by: Gavin P 




I've now got fingers crossed and excited at the prospect. Thanks Gavin.


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Stormchaser
18 June 2014 20:06:12



GFS, GEM and FIM (a model viewable on meteociel.fr, which I'm told is an evolution of the GFS model that may take over later this year) runs all refrain from this scenario, with the jet having to find a more complicated route going east from the Atlantic, and the ridge of high pressure putting up more of a fight, particularly in the case of GEM, with FIM close behind.


 Here's a link directly to the FIM output:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/fime_cartes.php?ech=6&mode=0&carte=0&archive=0


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


It has been around for several years and often uses the previous version of the GFS physics model. It's horizontal resolution is finite (30km or perhaps 15km) rather than spectral (unlike the GFS) and so is set up more like mesoscale models I think. There are other changes and the verification stats are claimed to be statistically better than the GFS, but the ones I've seen looked verrrryy similar.


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


True that - I've seen it used in tropical weather discussions here and there, and verification doesn't seem to show more than a marginal improvement overall.


 


...


 


On to the model outlook, and the gentle northerly regime looks to continue for England and Wales through to at least Sunday. During this time, temperatures are predicted to be quite reasonable for many areas, into the low 20's, perhaps sneaking towards the mid-20's on Sunday in the far south.


...or perhaps higher? You see, GFS has been undercooking the maximums by 2-3*C over the past couple of days, with conditions outside here in Reading feeling considerably more like high summer than was expected. Even the Met Office fell a bit short with the location-specific maximums.


Can't say I mind - hopefully this will continue to occur while the gentle northerly regime remains 


 


Beyond the weekend, the ridge is looking more resilliant from the 12z GFS and ECM next week compared to their respective 00z runs, however ECM continues to have a considerably weaker one than GFS, due to the Atlantic being more progressive.


To be honest I suspect ECM is too quick to bring the Atlantic across; I had the same thought about the 00z run.


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18 June 2014 20:21:05


Beyond the weekend, the ridge is looking more resilliant from the 12z GFS and ECM next week compared to their respective 00z runs, however ECM continues to have a considerably weaker one than GFS, due to the Atlantic being more progressive.


To be honest I suspect ECM is too quick to bring the Atlantic across; I had the same thought about the 00z run.


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


That's its usual play, isn't it? MetO tends to be the Goldilocks of the big models, not that it's right all the time (!). ECM is (again) one of the more progressive this evening compared to GFS and GEM - looking at +144 onwards. JMA doesn't really kick anything into gear haha.


 


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JACKO4EVER
19 June 2014 06:54:55
Morning all. Just taken a quick flick through the model output. Compared to some previous summers the outlook is decidedly good IMO, with HP never too far away. No great heat wave as a given, but still very pleasant and warm at times.
Andy Woodcock
19 June 2014 07:07:43

Morning all. Just taken a quick flick through the model output. Compared to some previous summers the outlook is decidedly good IMO, with HP never too far away. No great heat wave as a given, but still very pleasant and warm at times.

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 



No you can't moan and so much better then the 'South East Takes All' Synoptics of the last 7 summers.

Mind you where did I spend one of the warmest days in Cumbria in years? In London - which was cloudy and cool by comparison!!

Just my luck!

Andy

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JoeShmoe99
19 June 2014 07:36:33

Morning all. Just taken a quick flick through the model output. Compared to some previous summers the outlook is decidedly good IMO, with HP never too far away. No great heat wave as a given, but still very pleasant and warm at times.

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


 


looks lovely doesnt it 

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19 June 2014 08:20:47

I'd feel better about the current model outlook if I lived much further south and west of the country. In the reliable timeframe for here I'm seeing the prospect of winds often from a northerly quadrant with a lot of associated low cloud and bouts of drizzly rain.


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richardabdn
19 June 2014 09:36:57


looks lovely doesnt it 


Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


No it doesn't. Like RobN I think it looks dire. Woke up to yet another day of overcast gloom that doesn't look like shifting much and yet another depressing grey drizzly weekend coming up by the looks of things
 
This high is far too far west and all it does is allow a conveyor belt of cloud to set up over the top of it. Just 20 hours of sun here in the past week and nothing to suggest the next week will be any better. By then it will be a case of where this month will place amongst the dullest June's on record.
 
Can't think of a worse type of anticyclonic set-up than this and only a cyclonic easterly/southerly tracking low, typical of recent summers, could be any worse. Even an anticyclonic easterly would be better - the stratus would be more likely to burn off than this stratocumulus is to break up.
 
As for this not being a case of South East takes all as far as I'm concerned the divide is worse than ever. Sunshine above average in the south and below average in the north. 50% more sunshine in London than in York, Manchester, Aberdeen and Edinburgh this month - about three times the expected difference. Typical unwelcome divide of the past decade that is never reversed with the result that sunshine is always below average up here


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Gavin P
19 June 2014 13:11:29

Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


Hint's Of Unsettled Weather For Early July?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Not sure, but think a bit of a pattern change may be coming around turn of the month


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bledur
19 June 2014 18:00:26


Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


Hint's Of Unsettled Weather For Early July?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Not sure, but think a bit of a pattern change may be coming around turn of the month


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

yes looks like a slow change next week  . jet stream is forecast to come across the country midweek although it will be probably be the weekend before much rain reaches the south

Andy Woodcock
19 June 2014 19:34:23
Ok, half watching England match as our players are repeatedly injured!

Anyway, lovely runs tonight with the best weather in the North West just as I like it.

Could this be the summer when the long suffering north west finally gets some sunshine?

23c here today despite MetO forecast high of 19c, this summer is turning out a million times better than last year, the only problem is I am running out of wine to consume in the garden!

Andy
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Andy Woodcock
19 June 2014 19:37:21


looks lovely doesnt itUserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


No it doesn't. Like RobN I think it looks dire. Woke up to yet another day of overcast gloom that doesn't look like shifting much and yet another depressing grey drizzly weekend coming up by the looks of thingsUserPostedImage

This high is far too far west and all it does is allow a conveyor belt of cloud to set up over the top of it. Just 20 hours of sun here in the past week and nothing to suggest the next week will be any better. By then it will be a case of where this month will place amongst the dullest June's on record.

Can't think of a worse type of anticyclonic set-up than this and only a cyclonic easterly/southerly tracking low, typical of recent summers, could be any worse. Even an anticyclonic easterly would be better - the stratus would be more likely to burn off than this stratocumulus is to break up.

As for this not being a case of South East takes all as far as I'm concerned the divide is worse than ever. Sunshine above average in the south and below average in the north. 50% more sunshine in London than in York, Manchester, Aberdeen and Edinburgh this month - about three times the expected difference. Typical unwelcome divide of the past decade that is never reversed with the result that sunshine is always below average up hereUserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 



Really, I thought Scotland was sharing the Cumbrian sunshine?

Must be an east coast effect because yesterday Perthshire equalled the highest 2014 temperature in the UK

Surely this is better than zonal crap?

Andy


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Medlock Vale Weather
19 June 2014 20:03:48



looks lovely doesnt it 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


No it doesn't. Like RobN I think it looks dire. Woke up to yet another day of overcast gloom that doesn't look like shifting much and yet another depressing grey drizzly weekend coming up by the looks of things
 
This high is far too far west and all it does is allow a conveyor belt of cloud to set up over the top of it. Just 20 hours of sun here in the past week and nothing to suggest the next week will be any better. By then it will be a case of where this month will place amongst the dullest June's on record.
 
Can't think of a worse type of anticyclonic set-up than this and only a cyclonic easterly/southerly tracking low, typical of recent summers, could be any worse. Even an anticyclonic easterly would be better - the stratus would be more likely to burn off than this stratocumulus is to break up.
 
As for this not being a case of South East takes all as far as I'm concerned the divide is worse than ever. Sunshine above average in the south and below average in the north. 50% more sunshine in London than in York, Manchester, Aberdeen and Edinburgh this month - about three times the expected difference. Typical unwelcome divide of the past decade that is never reversed with the result that sunshine is always below average up here


Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


Yes not been that good here Richard, the last 7-10 days have been mostly dull then oddly sunny by late evening too late to enjoy it, it was only really yesterday that things improved all day, then today it went back to dull miserable skies, people walking around with coats on.


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David M Porter
19 June 2014 20:24:09

looks lovely doesnt itUserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 

No it doesn't. Like RobN I think it looks dire. Woke up to yet another day of overcast gloom that doesn't look like shifting much and yet another depressing grey drizzly weekend coming up by the looks of thingsUserPostedImage This high is far too far west and all it does is allow a conveyor belt of cloud to set up over the top of it. Just 20 hours of sun here in the past week and nothing to suggest the next week will be any better. By then it will be a case of where this month will place amongst the dullest June's on record. Can't think of a worse type of anticyclonic set-up than this and only a cyclonic easterly/southerly tracking low, typical of recent summers, could be any worse. Even an anticyclonic easterly would be better - the stratus would be more likely to burn off than this stratocumulus is to break up. As for this not being a case of South East takes all as far as I'm concerned the divide is worse than ever. Sunshine above average in the south and below average in the north. 50% more sunshine in London than in York, Manchester, Aberdeen and Edinburgh this month - about three times the expected difference. Typical unwelcome divide of the past decade that is never reversed with the result that sunshine is always below average up hereUserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: richardabdn 

Really, I thought Scotland was sharing the Cumbrian sunshine? Must be an east coast effect because yesterday Perthshire equalled the highest 2014 temperature in the UK Surely this is better than zonal crap? Andy

Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


Glasgow reached 26C yesterday, and was pretty close to that on Tuesday as well,so we certainly haven't missed out this time! We did pretty well out of last July's heatwave as well.


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David M Porter
19 June 2014 20:27:24



looks lovely doesnt it 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


No it doesn't. Like RobN I think it looks dire. Woke up to yet another day of overcast gloom that doesn't look like shifting much and yet another depressing grey drizzly weekend coming up by the looks of things
 
This high is far too far west and all it does is allow a conveyor belt of cloud to set up over the top of it. Just 20 hours of sun here in the past week and nothing to suggest the next week will be any better. By then it will be a case of where this month will place amongst the dullest June's on record.
 
Can't think of a worse type of anticyclonic set-up than this and only a cyclonic easterly/southerly tracking low, typical of recent summers, could be any worse. Even an anticyclonic easterly would be better - the stratus would be more likely to burn off than this stratocumulus is to break up.
 
As for this not being a case of South East takes all as far as I'm concerned the divide is worse than ever. Sunshine above average in the south and below average in the north. 50% more sunshine in London than in York, Manchester, Aberdeen and Edinburgh this month - about three times the expected difference. Typical unwelcome divide of the past decade that is never reversed with the result that sunshine is always below average up here


Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


Might have known you'd find something to moan about, Richard.


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David M Porter
19 June 2014 20:29:40

Ok, half watching England match as our players are repeatedly injured! Anyway, lovely runs tonight with the best weather in the North West just as I like it. Could this be the summer when the long suffering north west finally gets some sunshine? 23c here today despite MetO forecast high of 19c, this summer is turning out a million times better than last year, the only problem is I am running out of wine to consume in the garden! Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


I thought last year was a big improvement on the previous six! OK, June and August were both fairly average, but we sure didn't miss out last July as I said above.


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Hungry Tiger
19 June 2014 21:20:39

Ok, half watching England match as our players are repeatedly injured! Anyway, lovely runs tonight with the best weather in the North West just as I like it. Could this be the summer when the long suffering north west finally gets some sunshine? 23c here today despite MetO forecast high of 19c, this summer is turning out a million times better than last year, the only problem is I am running out of wine to consume in the garden! Andy


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Its all right for you guys - Overcast and stratocumulus gunk for us lot here .


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Hungry Tiger
19 June 2014 21:27:07


HERE IS MY LATEST ANALYSIS FROM THE OUTPUTS OF THE WEATHER COMPUTER PREDICTION MODELS FOR TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY WEDNESDAY JUNE 18TH 2014.


THE CURRENT GENERAL SITUATION. High pressure remains slow moving just to the West of Northern ireland with a NW flow over Scotland and a NNE flow over the South. Occasional weak troughs will spill South across the nation at times.


GFS The GFS Ensembles today shows High pressure anchored to the West of the UK for some time yet before pressure slowly falls and the High centre becomes more ill defined. With resulting slack pressure gradients cooler upper with time seep down across the UK from the North with a few showers possible. Then right at the end of the period there is an increased risk of Atlantic Low pressure finally making it through the High pressure block with breezier weather likely then with occasional rain but this is a long way out and by no means a definite.


UKMO UKMO closes this morning's run with High pressure still in control with the main centre to the SW with a strong ridge over the UK maintaining dry and bright conditions for many with some warm sunshine through variable cloud cover.


GEM The GEM operational today is having none of the deterioration in conditions that some of the other output shows with High pressure early next week if anything intensifying across the UK with further warm and dry conditions for most areas with sunny spells and light winds.


NAVGEM NAVGEM shows High pressure receding somewhat towards the Azores next week but maintaining a link across the UK with relatively fine weather for most bar the odd shower. Temperatures will be maintained close to or occasionally above average dependant on cloud cover and location day to day.


ECM The ECM operational today is the most definitive in showing pressure leaking away next week with an eventual Atlantic breakthrough sown to have occurred for all by later next week. Should it verify the fine and occasionally warm conditions will give way to rain and breezier weather from the Atlantic later. It will be beneficial to see where this operational fits within it's ensembles before we talk about a change or new trend to the course of likely events.


MY THOUGHTS  The models continue to promote a lot of fine and dry weather across the UK over the next week or two. Wall to Wall sunshine remains unlikely with some days warmer and sunnier than others and the odd shower will remain a risk. It's as usual in the latter stages of this morning's output that signs of change are shown with the ECM operational in the forefront of a change to breezier and more Atlantic mobile type weather later next week though at the time of this report it's ensembles were not issued to back up this theory. There are other signs though within the GFS Ensembles that also back up this theory albeit slightly later still in the period. GEM and UKMO look likely to hold on to fine weather well into next week at least with a strong ridge remaining in control across the UK from the SW. So in summary the weather will remain quite useable for some considerable time yet and while it remains unlikely to become uncomfortably warm it will be pleasantly warm for many due to cloud amounts sometimes rather large across the UK restricting the power of the sun somewhat.


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Doesn't sound too bad on the face of it - but its quite unpleasant in many ways for us lot in East Anglia and the SE. Indeed it was mentioned on about Anglia tonight, that the high pressure to the west of Ireland has been there a long time and that for us in East Anglia and the SE spells crap summer for us.


The saving grace was this - 1. It hasn't been cold. 2. Its hasn't been wet. But sunshine hours - the less is said about that the better.


 


 


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19 June 2014 21:33:22


Ok, half watching England match as our players are repeatedly injured! Anyway, lovely runs tonight with the best weather in the North West just as I like it. Could this be the summer when the long suffering north west finally gets some sunshine? 23c here today despite MetO forecast high of 19c, this summer is turning out a million times better than last year, the only problem is I am running out of wine to consume in the garden! Andy


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Its all right for you guys - Overcast and stratocumulus gunk for us lot here .


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 



You don't need go far from Cumbria, our top temp this month is only 20.8C and most days have been spoiled to some extent by cool onshore winds and low cloud/drizle.
Does look like the same basic pattern persists for a while yet, which is not good for hay almost due to cut!

Will probably have to do some and hope for he best I think.


picturesareme
19 June 2014 23:18:21


HERE IS MY LATEST ANALYSIS FROM THE OUTPUTS OF THE WEATHER COMPUTER PREDICTION MODELS FOR TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY WEDNESDAY JUNE 18TH 2014.
THE CURRENT GENERAL SITUATION. High pressure remains slow moving just to the West of Northern ireland with a NW flow over Scotland and a NNE flow over the South. Occasional weak troughs will spill South across the nation at times.
GFS The GFS Ensembles today shows High pressure anchored to the West of the UK for some time yet before pressure slowly falls and the High centre becomes more ill defined. With resulting slack pressure gradients cooler upper with time seep down across the UK from the North with a few showers possible. Then right at the end of the period there is an increased risk of Atlantic Low pressure finally making it through the High pressure block with breezier weather likely then with occasional rain but this is a long way out and by no means a definite.
UKMO UKMO closes this morning's run with High pressure still in control with the main centre to the SW with a strong ridge over the UK maintaining dry and bright conditions for many with some warm sunshine through variable cloud cover.
GEM The GEM operational today is having none of the deterioration in conditions that some of the other output shows with High pressure early next week if anything intensifying across the UK with further warm and dry conditions for most areas with sunny spells and light winds.
NAVGEM NAVGEM shows High pressure receding somewhat towards the Azores next week but maintaining a link across the UK with relatively fine weather for most bar the odd shower. Temperatures will be maintained close to or occasionally above average dependant on cloud cover and location day to day.
ECM The ECM operational today is the most definitive in showing pressure leaking away next week with an eventual Atlantic breakthrough sown to have occurred for all by later next week. Should it verify the fine and occasionally warm conditions will give way to rain and breezier weather from the Atlantic later. It will be beneficial to see where this operational fits within it's ensembles before we talk about a change or new trend to the course of likely events.
MY THOUGHTS The models continue to promote a lot of fine and dry weather across the UK over the next week or two. Wall to Wall sunshine remains unlikely with some days warmer and sunnier than others and the odd shower will remain a risk. It's as usual in the latter stages of this morning's output that signs of change are shown with the ECM operational in the forefront of a change to breezier and more Atlantic mobile type weather later next week though at the time of this report it's ensembles were not issued to back up this theory. There are other signs though within the GFS Ensembles that also back up this theory albeit slightly later still in the period. GEM and UKMO look likely to hold on to fine weather well into next week at least with a strong ridge remaining in control across the UK from the SW. So in summary the weather will remain quite useable for some considerable time yet and while it remains unlikely to become uncomfortably warm it will be pleasantly warm for many due to cloud amounts sometimes rather large across the UK restricting the power of the sun somewhat.

Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Doesn't sound too bad on the face of it - but its quite unpleasant in many ways for us lot in East Anglia and the SE. Indeed it was mentioned on about Anglia tonight,that the high pressure to the west of Ireland has been there a long time and that for us in East Anglia and the SE spells crap summer for us.
The saving grace was this - 1. It hasn't been cold.2. Its hasn't been wet. But sunshine hours - the less is said about that the better.

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 



For me and I am officially in the "southeast" it been pretty fantastic ;)

"Officially" 25.6C today.

Yesterday 23, day before around 25.., and so on lol. Rather a warm northeasterly over a southeast wind 😉 or southwest :D
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20 June 2014 05:26:03


For me and I am officially in the "southeast" it been pretty fantastic ;)

"Officially" 25.6C today.

Yesterday 23, day before around 25.., and so on lol. Rather a warm northeasterly over a southeast wind 😉 or southwest :D

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Just so - shows what a misjudgement on the part of the MetO it was to get rid of 'Central S England' as a forecasting region. Hampshire and Dorset (and even West Sussex) often have zilch in common with Kent on the one hand and Cornwall on the other.


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20 June 2014 06:41:25


For me and I am officially in the "southeast" it been pretty fantastic ;)

"Officially" 25.6C today.

Yesterday 23, day before around 25.., and so on lol. Rather a warm northeasterly over a southeast wind 😉 or southwest :D

Originally Posted by: DEW 


Just so - shows what a misjudgement on the part of the MetO it was to get rid of 'Central S England' as a forecasting region. Hampshire and Dorset (and even West Sussex) often have zilch in common with Kent on the one hand and Cornwall on the other.

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 



Same here. We get lumped in with southwest England. Hundreds of miles from Cornwall and often nothing like it in terms of weather, particularly in winter.

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