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Matty H
25 June 2014 08:26:21

For the record any ban imposed won't affect his club career, ridiculous as that is - it will only affect him at international level. Personally I think he should go to prison. Prosecute the tosser through the law

Originally Posted by: bowser 



Do we go down that route for all harm imposed by players on others in the course of the game? I've seen some chunky elbows to the head/face of other players this WC, causing far more injury than a slight & temporary teeth-shaped indentation...
He's a nutcase, yes. But come on... it's not like anyone's been hurt, is it?
The over-reaction by someis ridiculous.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



wasn't Duncan Ferguson jailed for an on field headbutt in the 90s?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



He was indeed. So hardly a new precident. Personally I think he should be sentenced to the chair

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/soccer-player-jailed-for-foul-play-1577101.html 
Saint Snow
25 June 2014 08:31:14

 Personally I think he should be sentenced to the chair

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


The dining chair?


Suarez reported to be worried about a ban as he was looking forward to facing Germany and tucking into a shoulder of Lahm


 


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David M Porter
25 June 2014 08:34:45

The more I think about it the more I'm thinking we need to sack Hodgson. Yes we were never going to win the World Cup but we are better than 1 point and 2 goals against what turned out to be 3 average at best teams. We need new ideas as we build torwards Euro 2016.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I think England, on paper anyway, had a more difficult group this time than they had in South Africa 4 years ago. My feeling was that in this World Cup, England would have done well to have got second place (I thought the Italians would win the group and England would be battling it out with Uruguay for second spot). If England had performed to anything like their best 4 years ago, they should have won their group quite easily. They only secured their way through when they beat Slovenia 1-0 in their final match, who didn't even qualify this time.


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David M Porter
25 June 2014 08:36:44

For the record any ban imposed won't affect his club career, ridiculous as that is - it will only affect him at international level. Personally I think he should go to prison. Prosecute the tosser through the law

Originally Posted by: bowser 



Do we go down that route for all harm imposed by players on others in the course of the game? I've seen some chunky elbows to the head/face of other players this WC, causing far more injury than a slight & temporary teeth-shaped indentation...
He's a nutcase, yes. But come on... it's not like anyone's been hurt, is it?
The over-reaction by someis ridiculous.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



wasn't Duncan Ferguson jailed for an on field headbutt in the 90s?

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Yes. It happened during a Rangers v Raith Rovers match at Ibrox, April 1994.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Matty H
25 June 2014 08:46:43

 Personally I think he should be sentenced to the chair

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


The dining chair?


Suarez reported to be worried about a ban as he was looking forward to facing Germany and tucking into a shoulder of Lahm


 


[courtesy of BBC Live]

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Gazza's dentist chair
David M Porter
25 June 2014 08:56:37


The more I think about it the more I'm thinking we need to sack Hodgson. Yes we were never going to win the World Cup but we are better than 1 point and 2 goals against what turned out to be 3 average at best teams. We need new ideas as we build torwards Euro 2016.

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


I think England, on paper anyway, had a more difficult group this time than they had in South Africa 4 years ago. My feeling was that in this World Cup, England would have done well to have got second place (I thought the Italians would win the group and England would be battling it out with Uruguay for second spot). If England had performed to anything like their best 4 years ago, they should have won their group quite easily. They only secured their way through when they beat Slovenia 1-0 in their final match, who didn't even qualify this time.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


As for Hodgson, he got England to the last 8 of Euro 2012 when many thought they would strugglein their group, and this was after he'd only been in the job less than two months after Capello's resignation.


England did worse under SBR at Euro '88 (lost all 3 group games) but still reached the semis at the World Cup a couple of years later. Should SBR have been sacked after the debacle in 1988? If he had been dismissed, England may not have done as well as they did at Italia '90. Also, look at the Dutch. They had a miserable Euro 2012, losing all three group games (must have been their worst performance at a major finals for many a year), but have come back strongly in this World Cup so far.


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Brian Gaze
25 June 2014 09:14:58

The more I think about it the more I'm thinking we need to sack Hodgson. Yes we were never going to win the World Cup but we are better than 1 point and 2 goals against what turned out to be 3 average at best teams. We need new ideas as we build torwards Euro 2016.

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Seems like the FA have launched a PR drive to keep Hodgson in place. I'm guessing this I because they'd have to go foreign again to find a replacement. I noticed that Prandelli has rightly resigned. Will Hodgson do the same? Not a chance.


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SEMerc
25 June 2014 09:17:28


The more I think about it the more I'm thinking we need to sack Hodgson. Yes we were never going to win the World Cup but we are better than 1 point and 2 goals against what turned out to be 3 average at best teams. We need new ideas as we build torwards Euro 2016.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Seems like the FA have launched a PR drive to keep Hodgson in place. I'm guessing this I because they'd have to go foreign again to find a replacement. I noticed that Prandelli has rightly resigned. Will Hodgson do the same? Not a chance.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


The circumstances are different. There were greater expectations for Italy to get out of its group. Of course Prandelli had to fall on his sword.

ARTzeman
25 June 2014 09:20:32

We shall see what England has to offer on September 8th Sept with Euro Qualifier against Switzerland.  Pdf available on uefa.com..






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Lionel Hutz
25 June 2014 10:00:48


For the record any ban imposed won't affect his club career, ridiculous as that is - it will only affect him at international level. Personally I think he should go to prison. Prosecute the tosser through the law

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 



Do we go down that route for all harm imposed by players on others in the course of the game? I've seen some chunky elbows to the head/face of other players this WC, causing far more injury than a slight & temporary teeth-shaped indentation...
He's a nutcase, yes. But come on... it's not like anyone's been hurt, is it?
The over-reaction by someis ridiculous.

Originally Posted by: bowser 



wasn't Duncan Ferguson jailed for an on field headbutt in the 90s?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Yes. It happened during a Rangers v Raith Rovers match at Ibrox, April 1994.


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


They must have been dancing on the streets of Raith after that


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Matty H
25 June 2014 10:52:09

We shall see what England has to offer on September 8th Sept with Euro Qualifier against Switzerland. Pdf available onuefa.com..

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 




I'll tell you know - they'll piss qualification and fail miserably in the finals.
ARTzeman
25 June 2014 10:58:36

We shall see what England has to offer on September 8th Sept with Euro Qualifier against Switzerland. Pdf available onuefa.com..

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

I'll tell you know - they'll piss qualification and fail miserably in the finals.

Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


 


...   San Marino will be the next.....






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Lumi-Ukko
25 June 2014 16:05:53

Electric start to the Argentina Nigeria game! 


SEMerc
25 June 2014 16:06:42

LOL, at this rate it's going to be a 10-10 draw.

Ally Pally Snowman
25 June 2014 16:12:30
Messi having a great World Cup so far. It could be his tournament .
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David M Porter
25 June 2014 16:15:31

Messi having a great World Cup so far. It could be his tournament .

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


We shall see. I remember thinking that the Argies had a great chance of winning the tournament during the group stage in both 2006 and 2010 and then when they beat Mexico in the 2nd round in both tournaments, but then they came unstuck against the Germans both times.


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The Beast from the East
25 June 2014 16:39:42


Messi having a great World Cup so far. It could be his tournament .

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


We shall see. I remember thinking that the Argies had a great chance of winning the tournament during the group stage in both 2006 and 2010 and then when they beat Mexico in the 2nd round in both tournaments, but then they came unstuck against the Germans both times.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


My gut feeling was this is going to be the Argies year. They are long "overdue" a big success unfortunately


 


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David M Porter
25 June 2014 16:42:49



Messi having a great World Cup so far. It could be his tournament .

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


We shall see. I remember thinking that the Argies had a great chance of winning the tournament during the group stage in both 2006 and 2010 and then when they beat Mexico in the 2nd round in both tournaments, but then they came unstuck against the Germans both times.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


My gut feeling was this is going to be the Argies year. They are long "overdue" a big success unfortunately


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I sure wouldn't bet against a Brazil v Argentina final. They've never met in a World Cup final before but neither had Spain and Holland before 2010 and neither had Brazil and Germany prior to 2002 (they had never played each other at all in ANY World Cup match before that bizarrely!)


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Ally Pally Snowman
25 June 2014 16:49:27
Messi again dodgy keeping though I thought.
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David M Porter
25 June 2014 16:49:56

Further to my last post, the 2010 Final was only the third World Cup Final since WW2 which didn't have either Brazil or Germany (West Germany as they used to be) in it; the previous two were Argentina v Holland in 1978 and Italy v France in 2006. Spain have the distinction of being the first and so far only European team to win the World Cup on an occasion when it was played in a non-European country. Italy (1970), Holland (1978), West Germany (1986), Italy (1994) and Germany (2002) all reached World Cup finals on non-European soil but were ultimately unsuccessful.


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SEMerc
25 June 2014 16:59:21

Sublime from Messi. Much as I despise the little toerag he is still the world's best footballer, despite what the diving cheating winker might think.

David M Porter
25 June 2014 17:27:55


Sublime from Messi. Much as I despise the little toerag he is still the world's best footballer, despite what the diving cheating winker might think.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


No doubt in my mind that Messi's the best there is right now; Ronaldo doesn't even come close for me and is no better than his now retired Brazilian namesake was at his peak.


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Matty H
25 June 2014 17:30:34
Ronaldo doesn't even come close? He does though doesn't he?

I cant stand Ronaldo for lots of reasons. Messi is fairly non-descript and uncontroversial
David M Porter
25 June 2014 17:41:09

Ronaldo for me is a showman more than he is a naturally gifted player- that's always been my view of him. Messi is 100% naturally gifted and for me is the best player I've seen since a certain other Argentine that used to wear No.10.


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
25 June 2014 17:51:51

Ronaldo for me is a showman more than he is a naturally gifted player- that's always been my view of him. Messi is 100% naturally gifted and for me is the best player I've seen since a certain other Argentine that used to wear No.10.


 

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 



To be considered the GOAT you have to do it at a World Cup Messi is certainly doing at this one.


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