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Whiteout
13 January 2015 10:25:37

Same outcome on GFSP:


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfsp/runs/2015011306/gfs-1-168.png?6


-8's heading South laughing


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Brian Gaze
13 January 2015 10:30:44


 


Hi Brian,


Somebody on Twitter asked me about the Parallel run yesterday. They said they've noticed the Para is throwing out more extreme and OTT solutions compared to the Operational. Something you've noticed?


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


I'm inclined to agree with that! There is another GFS upgrade scheduled for later this year, so shortly we'll be getting a new parallel run and the existing one becomes the operational. Be interesting to see how the new parallel run performs.


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kmoorman
13 January 2015 10:41:05


Same outcome on GFSP:


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfsp/runs/2015011306/gfs-1-168.png?6


-8's heading South laughing


Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


 


The GFSP is lovely - a proper Easterly flow establishes quite quickly, with no real warmer interlude either.


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Gavin P
13 January 2015 10:41:33


 


I'm inclined to agree with that! There is another GFS upgrade scheduled for later this year, so shortly we'll be getting a new parallel run and the existing one becomes the operational. Be interesting to see how the new parallel run performs.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Given the Parallel will become the main operational GFS (tomorrow?) sounds like a bit of a step backwards?


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bluejosh
13 January 2015 10:43:04

I thought the GFS (Op) was becoming defunct today or tomorrow. Is that not happening anymore? Confused....

Brian Gaze
13 January 2015 10:44:32


I thought the GFS (Op) was becoming defunct today or tomorrow. Is that not happening anymore? Confused....


Originally Posted by: bluejosh 


Tomorrow. The GFSP will be the new GFSOp.


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bluejosh
13 January 2015 10:46:02
Thanks
Brian Gaze
13 January 2015 10:47:21

'Big freeze' next week if the GFSP is right:



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SEMerc
13 January 2015 11:03:15

Please don't get the polar bears out.

Charmhills
13 January 2015 11:03:41


 


 


The GFSP is lovely - a proper Easterly flow establishes quite quickly, with no real warmer interlude either.


Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


GFS operational was cold to into fi with some snow around in the east especially before things slowly fall apart from the west in deep fi.


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AlvinMeister
13 January 2015 11:04:55
GFS Parallel has 850s no higher than -7C from 132hours nationwide
Sinky1970
13 January 2015 11:06:27
Is that a big "IF".
White Meadows
13 January 2015 11:08:27
Nice to see a potential freeze unfolding within the more reliable timeframe, rather than the 10-14 jam tomorrow set ups teased early Jan!
Matty H
13 January 2015 11:16:20

At face value the 06z E4 is amazing for this area tonight. 


Rob K
13 January 2015 11:18:22
Both GFSP and GFS (albeit less so) develop a Scandi high, backing up the ECM output. Interesting.
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scillydave
13 January 2015 11:26:30


At face value the 06z E4 is amazing for this area tonight. 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Matty do you have a link for that model? I'm not a million miles from you


 


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tallyho_83
13 January 2015 11:26:46
A long way off - but one for you Gooner:

http://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20150113/06/120/prectypeuktopo.png 

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Fothergill
13 January 2015 11:28:36


Didn't expect to see these charts this morning. GFSP 06z going for a throughbred easterly. All the models looking promising in fact. What could possibly go wrong?


The ECM ens are interesting, definitely support for height rises to the NE although the mean flow is still westerly but it's an improvement. Day 10 height anomalies:



There's a huge amount of scatter in the GEFS at day 8. Pretty much every kind of chart showing, very unusual at that range. So something may be up, or another wild goose chase. We obviously need many more runs before we can confident of anything.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?ech=192&code=0&mode=0&carte=

Whiteout
13 January 2015 11:28:58


 


 


Matty do you have a link for that model? I'm not a million miles from you


 


Originally Posted by: scillydave 


here you go, a larger swathe of Southern UK at risk of seeing some snow:


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2015/01/13/basis06/ukuk/prty/15011406_1306.gif


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moomin75
13 January 2015 11:34:16

A long way off - but one for you Gooner:

http://max.nwstatic.co.uk/gfsimages/gfs.20150113/06/120/prectypeuktopo.png

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 

Blimey. Even snow desert Witney might see a flake or two from that one!


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White Meadows
13 January 2015 11:39:57
Where's Roger63 with his nice little percentage options report….?
turbotubbs
13 January 2015 11:40:04


 


here you go, a larger swathe of Southern UK at risk of seeing some snow:


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2015/01/13/basis06/ukuk/prty/15011406_1306.gif


Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


Looks very interesting for Bristol, Bath and the high ground. Some caution - showery output, wet and not very cold ground, but does look like some areas will see their first snow since 2013...


Longer term trends starting to look interesting too, and I guess this is yet another example where things do start to pop up at longer range. Just because the NWP looks to be set in a zonal rut, doesn't mean it always will be.

kmoorman
13 January 2015 11:40:37
The GFS 6Z ensemble is going to generate some interest 🙂
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warrenb
13 January 2015 11:42:40
This spell has been showing in the ENS for a while, but now the Ops have tagged onto it.
Whiteout
13 January 2015 11:47:41

The GFS 6Z ensemble is going to generate some interest :)

Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


Nice start:


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/runs/2015011306/graphe3_1000_306_141___Londres.gif


Those snow risk % are going up.


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