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tallyho_83
29 December 2015 00:10:58


He's busy Tally


Just to put you out of your misery


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


About the most legit reply I've had lol.


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tallyho_83
29 December 2015 10:16:26
Weather Online has downgraded the prospects of colder weather as well:

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=weekahead&DAY=20151229 


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Gooner
29 December 2015 12:57:56

That is a decent update


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
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Solar Cycles
29 December 2015 14:04:12

No doubt Shropshire will now lambast the MetO for not following his err....... Script.

picturesareme
29 December 2015 14:56:16


No doubt Shropshire will now lambast the MetO for not following his err....... Script.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


not wanting to defend him here, but to be fair it's not really much of an upgrade for the majority of the UK.

Fothergill
29 December 2015 14:59:02

Interestingly they have removed mention of more settled drier weather into the South.

David M Porter
29 December 2015 15:24:01


No doubt Shropshire will now lambast the MetO for not following his err....... Script.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Yeah, his theory which was finally shown up in winter 2009/10 & December 2010 for what it was- a fraud.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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DEW
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29 December 2015 17:17:28

Sarah Keith-Lucas via BBC at 2155 (except it was 2200) last night stating that a significant chance had emerged of high pressure over Scandi and low pressure in the SW approaches - the previous longterm outlook, still the MetO favourite, had these positions reversed.


 


My experience is that when such 'significant' shifts are announced, they often take over as the preferred option,even if the MetO has to be dragged kicking and screaming away from its previously preferred option. So maybe the cold spell in a week's time has a real chance of happening.


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Whether Idle
29 December 2015 21:51:31


Sarah Keith-Lucas via BBC at 2155 (except it was 2200) last night stating that a significant chance had emerged of high pressure over Scandi and low pressure in the SW approaches - the previous longterm outlook, still the MetO favourite, had these positions reversed.


 


My experience is that when such 'significant' shifts are announced, they often take over as the preferred option,even if the MetO has to be dragged kicking and screaming away from its previously preferred option. So maybe the cold spell in a week's time has a real chance of happening.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Interesting David, another piece of the jigsaw and a potentially pertinent insight from yourself  into the "oil tanker approach" to public forecasting (too much momentum, takes a long time to affect a change in direction....). Time will tell.


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DEW
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29 December 2015 22:02:53

In support of the above, Nick Miller on tonights 2155 showed next week's jet stream running across central France. He interpreted this as bringing heavy rain to the south while the north dries out (very likely) but didn't go so far as to say that depressions on a southerly path would pull in a proper easterly (can but hope!)


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

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DEW
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29 December 2015 22:10:49

Heads up - just seen a trailer for Weather World on BBC News Channel, Nick Miller reviewing extreme UK weather this year.It's being repeated 1330 31 Dec and 1030 1st Jan or available online if you (like me ) missed the earlier screenings.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06ttl2v


 


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Rob K
30 December 2015 08:32:31


Sarah Keith-Lucas via BBC at 2155 (except it was 2200) last night stating that a significant chance had emerged of high pressure over Scandi and low pressure in the SW approaches - the previous longterm outlook, still the MetO favourite, had these positions reversed.


 


My experience is that when such 'significant' shifts are announced, they often take over as the preferred option,even if the MetO has to be dragged kicking and screaming away from its previously preferred option. So maybe the cold spell in a week's time has a real chance of happening.


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


My experience is that often when the Met Office finally start to mention cold, within a few hours the models backtrack away from it again. Sure enough that seems to have happened this morning!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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David M Porter
30 December 2015 09:35:35


 


 


My experience is that often when the Met Office finally start to mention cold, within a few hours the models backtrack away from it again. Sure enough that seems to have happened this morning!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


The models that we can see, anyway. AFAIK there are other model runs that the MetO have access to that we don't.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Bellevarde
30 December 2015 19:39:11

Quick, check this out at 2:03 before they take it down:


 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/35202769


 

David M Porter
30 December 2015 20:02:12


Quick, check this out at 2:03 before they take it down:


 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/35202769


 


Originally Posted by: Bellevarde 


LOL at Darren Brett's slip of the tongue!


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
redmoons
30 December 2015 20:02:47


Quick, check this out at 2:03 before they take it down:


 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/35202769


 


Originally Posted by: Bellevarde 


 blooper


Andrew,
Watford
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Ally Pally Snowman
30 December 2015 20:17:40


Quick, check this out at 2:03 before they take it down:


 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/35202769


 


Originally Posted by: Bellevarde 


LMAO can't believe they haven't taken it down yet.


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Snow Hoper
30 December 2015 20:24:54


 


LMAO can't believe they haven't taken it down yet.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


LOL rather angry with himself was he


Going to war over religion is like killing each other to see who has the better imaginary friend.


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tallyho_83
30 December 2015 22:16:17


 


LMAO can't believe they haven't taken it down yet.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Seen it twice - don't get it!?


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Gooner
30 December 2015 22:31:22


 


 


Seen it twice - don't get it!?


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


I think its gone, I couldnt see anything either, it all looked rather professional


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
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RobR
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31 December 2015 00:23:07

So what did he say then?


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David M Porter
31 December 2015 14:47:48

Given the highly variable nature of the model output at the moment, I don't think for a moment that further alterations to the MetO's outlook for later in January can be ruled out. The models have been in something of a chaotic mode since just before Xmas than they had been generally for a while before that. We can't even be anywhere sure about next week at the momentm let alone anything beyond that.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
tallyho_83
01 January 2016 03:27:57

Weather Online update for month ahead which contradicts Met Offices Update of so called "Above average temperatures or a low chance of it turning cold: http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=205&DAY=20151231 - At least it's turning cooler and no more of the dreaded mild gunk, murky windy days of +14 or 15c day after day and week after week with nights of rain & drizzle like December brought! 


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Valid from 01/12 to 28/12 2015
Turning cooler

Issued: Thursday 31st December 2015
Duty forecaster: Simon Keeling


Turning cooler through January

After a stormy start to 2016, and wet one too, the overall trend from mis-month is towards cooler weather.
Details are sketchy right now, but thoughts are that there could be a tendency to near or below average temperatures, with wintry weather in the north and east, perhaps frostier and drier west.

*1/1/16 - 8/1/16*
Unsettled conditions are going to be persisting through this week. Heavy rain and strong winds at times, with the risk of gales in the west. Tending to turn cooler.

*9/1/16 - 15/1/16*
Little change at first with hints of very unsettled weather continuing. This brings heavy periods of rain once again. However, late in the week conditions may settled and it could become colder too. Frosts becoming more widespread?

*16/1/16 - 22/1/16*
Hints of colder weather through this week with winds becoming more northwesterly. This could bring snow showers into Scotland and the hills of northern England and Wales, a few even making it to lower levels over more southern parts too.

*23/1/16 - 29/1/16*
An unsettled spell of weather, especially in eastern parts of the UK. It is likely to be colder here too with snow showers. Drier to the west, remaining chilly.

**ends** .


Simon Keeling
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doctormog
01 January 2016 11:37:09
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=warnings®ionName=gr&fcTime=1451779200 

"A frontal zone arriving from the southwest late on Friday will become slow-moving across the area on Saturday and persist into Sunday, before being joined by another frontal zone from the southwest on Sunday night.

Over the period to Monday some parts are likely to see over 200 mm of rain.

The precipitation is expected to fall as snow initially above around 600 to 700 m. The snow level will rise on Sunday before returning to similar levels later Monday as the rain starts to ease.

Given the saturated nature of the ground there is a greater risk of surface water and river flooding that might normally be expected."
Nordic Snowman
01 January 2016 11:46:42
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/warnings/#?tab=warnings&regionName=gr&fcTime=1451779200 

"A frontal zone arriving from the southwest late on Friday will become slow-moving across the area on Saturday and persist into Sunday, before being joined by another frontal zone from the southwest on Sunday night.

Over the period to Monday some parts are likely to see over 200 mm of rain.

The precipitation is expected to fall as snow initially above around 600 to 700 m. The snow level will rise on Sunday before returning to similar levels later Monday as the rain starts to ease.

Given the saturated nature of the ground there is a greater risk of surface water and river flooding that might normally be expected."


Absolutely Doc. I think the floods will once again dominate Sky News within the next 24 hours. Terrible times for those affected.


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