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tallyho_83
01 January 2016 11:55:18


Weather Online update for month ahead which contradicts Met Offices Update of so called "Above average temperatures or a low chance of it turning cold: http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=205&DAY=20151231 - At least it's turning cooler and no more of the dreaded mild gunk, murky windy days of +14 or 15c day after day and week after week with nights of rain & drizzle like December brought! 


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Valid from 01/12 to 28/12 2015
Turning cooler

Issued: Thursday 31st December 2015
Duty forecaster: Simon Keeling


Turning cooler through January

After a stormy start to 2016, and wet one too, the overall trend from mis-month is towards cooler weather.
Details are sketchy right now, but thoughts are that there could be a tendency to near or below average temperatures, with wintry weather in the north and east, perhaps frostier and drier west.

*1/1/16 - 8/1/16*
Unsettled conditions are going to be persisting through this week. Heavy rain and strong winds at times, with the risk of gales in the west. Tending to turn cooler.

*9/1/16 - 15/1/16*
Little change at first with hints of very unsettled weather continuing. This brings heavy periods of rain once again. However, late in the week conditions may settled and it could become colder too. Frosts becoming more widespread?

*16/1/16 - 22/1/16*
Hints of colder weather through this week with winds becoming more northwesterly. This could bring snow showers into Scotland and the hills of northern England and Wales, a few even making it to lower levels over more southern parts too.

*23/1/16 - 29/1/16*
An unsettled spell of weather, especially in eastern parts of the UK. It is likely to be colder here too with snow showers. Drier to the west, remaining chilly.

**ends** .


Simon Keeling
Email me at [email protected]       



Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


For contrasting purposes - The Met Office outlook:


Outlook for the UK over the next 6-30 days


UK Outlook for Wednesday 6 Jan 2016 to Friday 15 Jan 2016:


Remaining unsettled across all parts for much of this period, with further spells of rain or showers for many areas. Winds will also remain fairly strong throughout early January, with the risk of gales at times, these most likely in the west of the UK. Temperatures will be nearer to normal than of late across the majority of the UK, but some milder interludes are still likely, however the north and northeast may become colder than normal at times, giving the risk of precipitation turning to snow here. Towards the middle of the month there are some signs of some drier interludes developing, with these most likely towards the south and possibly the east of the country.


UK Outlook for Saturday 16 Jan 2016 to Saturday 30 Jan 2016:


The main signal for the second half of the month is for the unsettled theme to continue across much of the UK, with frontal systems continuing to move in from the Atlantic bringing wet and windy weather at times. The wettest weather looks set to affect western areas, with any snowfall mainly confined to the north. There are some signs that southern and eastern areas may see some more prolonged drier spells developing. Overall, temperatures are likely to be close to or slightly above normal for most areas for the majority of the period.


Updated at: 0137 on Fri 1 Jan 2016


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


picturesareme
02 January 2016 14:51:47
I'm clinging to this last thread of hope for seeing some snow 😕

"Outlook for Monday to Wednesday:
Cloudy, wet and windy Monday. Remaining cloudy Tuesday and Wednesday but becoming markedly colder, with a raw onshore breeze and an increased tendency towards some mostly light sleet and snow.

Updated at: 1402 on Sat 2 Jan 2016"
tallyho_83
02 January 2016 21:40:39

Friends in Riga - Latvia had -20c today, been the coldest for a long time: Average is -4c for January.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/lv/riga/225780/weather-forecast/225780




 


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


tallyho_83
03 January 2016 10:54:55

Am I missing something or does this not say colder' somewhere?

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=205&DAY=20151231




Month ahead - December 31, 2015

Valid from 01/12 to 28/12 2015

Turning cooler

Issued: Thursday 31st December 2015
Duty forecaster: Simon Keeling


Turning cooler through January

After a stormy start to 2016, and wet one too, the overall trend from mis-month is towards cooler weather.
Details are sketchy right now, but thoughts are that there could be a tendency to near or below average temperatures, with wintry weather in the north and east, perhaps frostier and drier west.

*1/1/16 - 8/1/16*
Unsettled conditions are going to be persisting through this week. Heavy rain and strong winds at times, with the risk of gales in the west. Tending to turn cooler.

*9/1/16 - 15/1/16*
Little change at first with hints of very unsettled weather continuing. This brings heavy periods of rain once again. However, late in the week conditions may settled and it could become colder too. Frosts becoming more widespread?

*16/1/16 - 22/1/16*
Hints of colder weather through this week with winds becoming more northwesterly. This could bring snow showers into Scotland and the hills of northern England and Wales, a few even making it to lower levels over more southern parts too.

*23/1/16 - 29/1/16*
An unsettled spell of weather, especially in eastern parts of the UK. It is likely to be colder here too with snow showers. Drier to the west, remaining chilly.

**ends** .

Simon Keeling
Email me at [email protected]

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=205&DAY=20151231


 


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


tallyho_83
04 January 2016 11:53:30
BBC Monthly weather forecast updated today:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook 

Monthly Outlook

Summary


A new year, a new weather set up?

The final week of the old year closed on an exceptionally wet and mild note. Unfortunately, a series of heavy rainfall events through December brought extensive flooding across the north and west. Met Office statistics show that December 2015 was the wettest December on record for Scotland and Wales, with parts of Northern Ireland and northern England also beating December rainfall records. December 2015 was also exceptionally mild, smashing the previous December record set in 1934.

A warmer atmosphere carries a greater amount of moisture, and prevailing mild southwesterly winds through December brought the devastating rainfall. But why were conditions so mild?

El Nino is a meteorological phenomenon whereby every few years part of the Pacific Ocean becomes warmer than normal. An El Nino often results in a mild and wet start to the UK winter. It is difficult for climatologists to directly link any one particular weather event to natural cycles of atmospheric variability such as El Nino, and longer term effects such as global warming, but historical data and computer models suggest that such factors increase the likelihood of a persistent Atlantic southwesterly jet stream, such as that which has brought so much mild and moist air to our shores through December.

So what about 2016? Can we expect any change in the weather?. Well, the good news is that an anticyclone has developed over Russia, resulting in a block of cold air over eastern Europe and Scandinavia. This cold high has re-orientated the jet stream and steered it south of the UK. We can therefore expect further wet and windy conditions. However, the crucial difference between December and January is likely to be that because of the jet streams more southerly track, the warm tropical air that brought so much rain will likely be replaced by less mild air. The cooler air will hold less moisture, so the impact of these storms will probably be less severe.


Monday 4 January—Sunday 10 January

Wet and windy again ... but not as extreme.

A large area of low pressure will dominate the UK weather during the early part of this week. Most places will see plenty of showers through Monday and Tuesday, with strong winds for the far southwest and far northeast. Prolonged rainfall that occurred through weekend across eastern Scotland and northeast England is likely to continue for a time, leading to the threat of some localised flooding issues across some northeast parts of the UK. Any precipitation could turn wintry over the high ground of northern Scotland and perhaps Northern Ireland for a time.

By midweek, a transient ridge of high pressure will edge in from the west, resulting in a chilly start on Wednesday morning, particularly across Northern Ireland, western Scotland, northwest England and Wales where frost is likely. Wednesday is likely to be the driest day for many part of the UK, although further showers are possible.

Through Thursday, another Atlantic weather system will push through most places form the west, potentially bringing a brief spell of transient sleet snow to the hills of northern England, Northern Ireland and Scotland.

Into the weekend, further spells of wet and windy weather are anticipated.

Temperatures will be nearer to average compared to the recent mild weather, with coldest weather always more likely to the north.


Monday 11 January—Sunday 17 January

No real sign of any significant change

The remainder of the first half of January will stay wet and windy for much of the time as Atlantic weather systems continue to spill in from the west. The windiest conditions will most likely be across western and particularly southwestern areas. Most of the rain is expected to fall across western areas, with the best chance of drier interludes to the east. There will be some brief incursions of colder air from the north in between weather systems, during which clearer and drier conditions are anticipated. These brief colder spells may well increase the chance of some snowfall to high ground across central and northern parts of the UK.


Monday 18 January—Sunday 31 January

A chance of a lengthier dry spell ... for some

As we move into the second part of January, some of the tools we use for medium range forecasting are suggesting the possibility of some drier conditions for eastern areas of the UK for a time. That said, even these drier interludes look likely to be interrupted now and then by the wet and windy spells that will persist in western areas throughout the period. Toward the end of January, most of the computer models hint at a return to wet and windy conditions for all parts of the UK. Temperatures look likely to be near or slightly above average through the second half of January, with the coldest air again confined chiefly to the north.

Next week

Next week's issue will cover the early part of February. With two of the three winter months having passed without a lengthy cold spell, we'll try to find out if there is any weather more akin to a typical winter on its way.


Monthly forecasting
The weather beyond about a week ahead stretches even the most experienced weather forecaster. Complex numerical weather forecast models from the Met Office and the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) are run many times for the month (and season) ahead to build up a picture of the likelihood of different weather types affecting the UK.

Next update at 10:00, Monday 11 January


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


Twister
04 January 2016 11:57:03
Worth noting that the overnight extended outlook from the Met Office highlights the risk of a much colder snap later next week, as signalled by some of the recent model output:

"... However, there is the risk of a brief much colder spell at the end of next week, with frost and snow showers."

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Location: Egerton, Kent - 33m ASL
Thunder 2016: 12 (Apr 3,13; May 21; Jun 8,11,17,22,23,25, Jul 2,12, Aug 26)
Winter 2015/6: Snowfalls: 10 | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 17 (0.5cm)) | Air frosts: 39
Winter 2016/7: Snowfalls: 4 (Jan 12-3, Feb 10-11) | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 13, 2cm, Feb 11, 3-5mm) | Air frosts: 57 (2 in Oct, 10 in Nov, 13 in Dec, 19 in Jan, 6 in Feb, 3 in Mar, 4 in Apr)
"The heavens tell of the glory of God. The skies display his marvellous craftsmanship." (Psalm 19:1)
Jayni C
04 January 2016 12:09:53

Worth noting that the overnight extended outlook from the Met Office highlights the risk of a much colder snap later next week, as signalled by some of the recent model output:

"... However, there is the risk of a brief much colder spell at the end of next week, with frost and snow showers."

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Originally Posted by: Twister 


spell sounds better than snap

Twister
04 January 2016 12:13:43


 


spell sounds better than snap


Originally Posted by: Jayni C 


Yup indeed, although I wonder at what point a 'snap' becomes a 'brief spell'?  Either way, good to see and let's see whether the lunchtime update will continue the positive (for coldies) trend.


Location: Egerton, Kent - 33m ASL
Thunder 2016: 12 (Apr 3,13; May 21; Jun 8,11,17,22,23,25, Jul 2,12, Aug 26)
Winter 2015/6: Snowfalls: 10 | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 17 (0.5cm)) | Air frosts: 39
Winter 2016/7: Snowfalls: 4 (Jan 12-3, Feb 10-11) | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 13, 2cm, Feb 11, 3-5mm) | Air frosts: 57 (2 in Oct, 10 in Nov, 13 in Dec, 19 in Jan, 6 in Feb, 3 in Mar, 4 in Apr)
"The heavens tell of the glory of God. The skies display his marvellous craftsmanship." (Psalm 19:1)
sriram
04 January 2016 22:00:38
John Hammond on news 24 9.55 pm

Long range outlook

Notably colder

Night frost

Wintery showers

DRIER than recently
Sriram
Sedgley, West Midlands ( just south of Wolverhampton )
162m ASL
Arcus
04 January 2016 22:01:06
Well the BBC 21.55 stated that the models were starting to agree on a "notably colder" spell next week. So, that'll mean the models start showing the same according to some on here then. Oh, hang on...
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
nsrobins
06 January 2016 08:05:06
NWx forum 'suspended for routine maintenance', on possibly the busiest morning for model forums so far this winter.
Ho hum 🤓
Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
warrenb
06 January 2016 08:14:09
Yea I noticed that, not good timing on their part really.
Arcus
06 January 2016 10:29:21

Yea I noticed that, not good timing on their part really.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


They'll be massing on the TWO borders seeking entry. I wonder if Brian's closed the Øresund Bridge yet.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
tallyho_83
06 January 2016 11:37:01
Online weather update:

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=weekahead&DAY=20160106 
Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


tallyho_83
06 January 2016 11:39:12
Met Office update earlier this morning:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 


Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Sean Moon
Magical Moon
www.magical-moon.com


Rob K
06 January 2016 11:44:13

Met Office update earlier this morning:

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast

Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


The wording looks unchanged from yesterday at first glance.


 


And indeed it is for the first 9 days (they didn't even fix the typo!) but the latter part has changed a bit (new parts in bold).


 


UK Outlook for Wednesday 20 Jan 2016 to Wednesday 3 Feb 2016:


There is significant uncertainty in the period, but the most likely weather is for generally unsettled conditions with winds mainly coming from the west. Showers or longer spells of rain are expected, interspersed by some dry and brighter interludes. The rain being heaviest and most persistent in the north and west where rainfall totals are likely to be above average. The south and east should be more sheltered, getting the best of the drier and brighter interludes, so rainfall totals here may by slightly below average. There are indications of some longer dry spells later in January and for the start of February. Temperatures through this period should be near or a little above average for most areas, but further cold spells are possible.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Brian Gaze
06 January 2016 11:46:30


The wording looks unchanged from yesterday at first glance.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That's because it is yesterday's update*. I really think the Met should make this clearer but the 16 and 30 day updates are usually issued about 1pm.


*I think


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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"I'm not socialist, I know that. I don't believe in sharing my money." - Gary Numan
nsrobins
06 January 2016 11:46:38
The whisper is the text will be revised in the lunchtime update 😉👌
Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Gandalf The White
06 January 2016 12:18:00

The whisper is the text will be revised in the lunchtime update 😉👌

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Something's afoot because when I go to the Met Office home page, under the forecast section it says:


 




  • Regional forecast


    Text forecast data not available.




 


I don't think I've ever seen that before. Maybe a radical re-writing is taking place...  Certainly the model output indicates it's needed.


 


 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Rob K
06 January 2016 12:30:45


 


That's because it is yesterday's update*. I really think the Met should make this clearer but the 16 and 30 day updates are usually issued about 1pm.


*I think


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


The second part of the 30 dayer was updated overnight, as I edited my post to reflect.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
picturesareme
06 January 2016 12:44:29


 


Something's afoot because when I go to the Met Office home page, under the forecast section it says:


 




  • Regional forecast


    Text forecast data not available.




 


I don't think I've ever seen that before. Maybe a radical re-writing is taking place...  Certainly the model output indicates it's needed.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


their website has been glitchy all morning, not even been able to access it at times.

stophe
06 January 2016 13:10:35


 


their website has been glitchy all morning, not even been able to access it at times.


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


I agree something was up with the website early this morning it was all code when I looked at it.

Russwirral
06 January 2016 14:24:18

COBRA then quickly broke for lunch

Forecast summary
UK 5 days UK 6-30 days
Outlook for the UK over the next 6-30 days
UK Outlook for Monday 11 Jan 2016 to Wednesday 20 Jan 2016:
Monday and Tuesday will be largely unsettled and often windy with showery conditions interspersed with some more organised spells of rain, and snow across northern parts, mainly high ground. The heaviest rain and strongest winds probably occurring in the southwest and northeast. There is now an increased signal for a brief much colder spell around the middle of next week with widespread overnight frosts. There is likely to be a mixture of sunshine and showers, with the showers falling as sleet or snow to low levels in the north, and perhaps also in the south. Towards the end of next week unsettled and sometimes windy weather with mainly westerly winds may become re-established, although there is some uncertainty. Temperatures should return to near normal.

UK Outlook for Thursday 21 Jan 2016 to Thursday 4 Feb 2016:
The strongest signal for the period is generally unsettled conditions with winds mainly coming from the west. Showers or longer spells of rain are expected, interspersed by some dry and brighter interludes. The rain being heaviest and most persistent in the north and west where rainfall totals are likely to be above average. The south and east should be more sheltered, getting the best of the drier and brighter interludes, so rainfall totals here may by slightly below average. Temperatures through this period should be near or a little above average for most areas, but further cold spells are possible.


Gooner
06 January 2016 21:29:54

Mr Bett on N24


" some significant changes on the way , that's all I'm going to say "  and then smiles


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


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