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David M Porter
24 January 2016 20:27:55


P iers Moron, writing on Saturday.





Some great TV football today. But not as great as tomorrow's going to be when Chelsea's relegation zombies meet the next Champions.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Oooops........


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gooner
24 January 2016 20:28:35


 


I missed the first 10 minutes but saw the rest of the match and genuinely I was asking you what you think you saw that was worthy of sending off.


But by all means revert to football fan mode if you must, insults and all.



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


It was a sending off , I commented because you replied to my original post with ROFL


If calling you plastic is an insult then you couldn't have been to the Shed many times......must have been having those sarnies.....eh

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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SEMerc
24 January 2016 20:37:23

Aw bless. This thread was started on Red Cafe back in October.


Delusion or sense of entitlement on the part of Manure fans.


With the benefit of hindsight, it's probably both.


http://www.redcafe.net/threads/the-title-contenders-arsenal-manchester-city-and-manchester-united.410208/

Gandalf The White
24 January 2016 21:04:00


As a Chelsea fan I can't stand Costa  fed up with all he does that drags the club down. If I'd had my way Jose would have gone after we lost to Palace at home. It was clear then that he'd lost the dressing room and we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now. He was making us a laughing stock with all his antics. A fair proportion of the squad aren't fit to wear the shirt and at least 6 of them are the reason why we are where we are due to their own issues with the former boss. People will probably bang on about how short my memory is given what Jose did for us, however, even whilst winning I wasn't keen due to the style of play adopted. I accepted it because we won. But back to today's game, much needed 3 points. A correct sending off if he'd been touched although somehow I doubt he was. Cesc should have had a Pen and with ten men Arsenal were the better side for the final 20 mins. As I said on FB, Remy shouldn't be allowed on the bench. Why we didn't splash on the big Chelsea fan Austin for a snip at £4M, proven at this level is beyond me. He'd have more fight and desire as would one of the youngsters or even the tea lady compared to that useless prat.


Still only a few more points to get to the magic 40 and probable safety


Originally Posted by: Snow Hoper 


LOL, how expectations can be lowered, eh?


I lost faith In Mourinho over the fiasco over the club doctor.  He mishandled that so badly but looking back it was an early sign that things weren't going well.


Costa was fantastic last season but lost his way and self-control this season.  Remy looks like what he is, a striker out of form with almost no match time.

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David M Porter
24 January 2016 21:23:30


 


LOL, how expectations can be lowered, eh?


I lost faith In Mourinho over the fiasco over the club doctor.  He mishandled that so badly but looking back it was an early sign that things weren't going well.


Costa was fantastic last season but lost his way and self-control this season.  Remy looks like what he is, a striker out of form with almost no match time.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I only wonder whether there were perhaps tensions behind the scenes at Chelsea as far back as last summer, Peter. If there were, then as you have said above, the spat between JM and the doctor could have been an early indication that all wasn't well between the manager and others at the club.


In the case of the incident with Eva Caniero, if JM had a genuine grievance with what she and her assistant did in the opening game of the PL, he should have spoken to both of them behind closed doors after the game and cleared the air between them that way. I wasn't at all surprised when I heard that Dr Caniero had quit her job not long afterwards, nor am I surprised by the legal action she has since launched against Chelsea and JM himself.

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Gandalf The White
24 January 2016 23:03:32


 


I only wonder whether there were perhaps tensions behind the scenes at Chelsea as far back as last summer, Peter. If there were, then as you have said above, the spat between JM and the doctor could have been an early indication that all wasn't well between the manager and others at the club.


In the case of the incident with Eva Caniero, if JM had a genuine grievance with what she and her assistant did in the opening game of the PL, he should have spoken to both of them behind closed doors after the game and cleared the air between them that way. I wasn't at all surprised when I heard that Dr Caniero had quit her job not long afterwards, nor am I surprised by the legal action she has since launched against Chelsea and JM himself.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Hi David,


There were problems visible during the pre-season matches and then onto the Charity Shield. In fact I think Chelsea's decline started last season because they started so well and dropped off later in the season.


I was horrified at the way Eva Caniero was treated, both at the time of the incident and subsequently.  All he had to do was apologise and that may well have dealt with the matter.  Whoever was advising Chelsea on HR issues must have had their hands full!  It was a constructive dismissal claim just waiting to happen, that much was blindingly obvious.


 

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Gandalf The White
24 January 2016 23:09:37


 


It was a sending off , I commented because you replied to my original post with ROFL


If calling you plastic is an insult then you couldn't have been to the Shed many times......must have been having those sarnies.....eh


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


LOL


I used to stand in the Shed End as a teenager, when you either stood in front of a railing or accepted that you'd be 5-10 yards down the Terrace every time anything exciting happened on the pitch....


Just watched MOTD and there was unanimous agreement that (a) it was a red card and (b) that the Fabregas incident was a penalty.


Not sure what Wenger was upset about.


I did see one incident involving Costa, with a late/mistimed tackle but it looked like a yellow card at the most - if that's the one to whicb you were referring.


 

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Saint Snow
25 January 2016 00:01:06

Wasn't Maureen's beef that she was making the beast with two backs with Ivanovich?


That Maureen blew something trivial out of all proportion was perhaps his plan to get rid of her & send a message to the players. Then it blew up in his face rather spectacularly (and amusingly) was obviously not part of the plan.


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SEMerc
25 January 2016 02:25:15

This is how low Manure have sunk under Woodward/Van Gaal.


Jan 23

0 - None of the other 91 PL/FL clubs have had fewer shots on target at home than Man Utd (35) in the league this season. Stark.





 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Snow Hoper
25 January 2016 05:38:59


Wasn't Maureen's beef that she was making the beast with two backs with Ivanovich?


That Maureen blew something trivial out of all proportion was perhaps his plan to get rid of her & send a message to the players. Then it blew up in his face rather spectacularly (and amusingly) was obviously not part of the plan.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Although this need to talk in football terrace code is amusing it's almost like trying to decipher what one of my teenagers is saying via text. Not everyone is speaking the same gobbledegook!


 


I think the translation is something along the lines of Doc (not the one from Aberdeen )banging player  (BI)  and JM wanted rid? I did here something similar but couldn't  be sure.

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Gooner
25 January 2016 07:22:11


 


LOL


I used to stand in the Shed End as a teenager, when you either stood in front of a railing or accepted that you'd be 5-10 yards down the Terrace every time anything exciting happened on the pitch....


Just watched MOTD and there was unanimous agreement that (a) it was a red card and (b) that the Fabregas incident was a penalty.


Not sure what Wenger was upset about.


I did see one incident involving Costa, with a late/mistimed tackle but it looked like a yellow card at the most - if that's the one to whicb you were referring.


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Oh dear, only as a teenager Did you stop going after they were relegated then ?


Nooooo I am on about his antics from the Per tackle.


Not sure why you have mentioned what MOTD thought , as I said it was a red card and Cesc should have had a penalty.

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Gandalf The White
25 January 2016 08:07:16


 


Oh dear, only as a teenager Did you stop going after they were relegated then ?


Nooooo I am on about his antics from the Per tackle.


Not sure why you have mentioned what MOTD thought , as I said it was a red card and Cesc should have had a penalty.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I stopped going after school days because we all drifted off in different directions, moved away and a host of other reasons.  More recently it's been too expensive so I just go occasionally.


The MOTD comment was for information; I wasn't suggesting you had disagreed was I?

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Gooner
25 January 2016 11:58:55


 


I stopped going after school days because we all drifted off in different directions, moved away and a host of other reasons.  More recently it's been too expensive so I just go occasionally.


The MOTD comment was for information; I wasn't suggesting you had disagreed was I?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Fair enough Peter

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Saint Snow
25 January 2016 13:12:44


Much like the vampire who - because of Harry Redknapp being (and still) an utter bellend -


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


You just keep kidding yourself that he'd have moved to a small club like Sperms, whose measure of a great season is having beaten their bigger, more illustrious neighbours & challenged for a top 4 spot.


In fact, you're the Everton of London.


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Saint Snow
25 January 2016 14:05:02

Ramires reported to be on his way to some Chinese club for £25m


Hmmm....


 


Two things.


Firstly, this smacks of FFP-avoidance (as in, the selling club part-funding a transfer behind-the-scenes to help a FFP deficit). Remember David Luis?


Secondly, Chelsea are desperate to nab Teixera to stop Liverpool signing him, so expect all that cash to be diverted to a big bid for Teixera.


 


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Gandalf The White
25 January 2016 14:44:27


Ramires reported to be on his way to some Chinese club for £25m


Hmmm....


 


Two things.


Firstly, this smacks of FFP-avoidance (as in, the selling club part-funding a transfer behind-the-scenes to help a FFP deficit). Remember David Luis?


Secondly, Chelsea are desperate to nab Teixera to stop Liverpool signing him, so expect all that cash to be diverted to a big bid for Teixera.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Getting rid of Luis to PSG at an astonishing profit was very good business.... Until his header knocked us out of the Champions League...!

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SJV
25 January 2016 18:52:55


Ramires reported to be on his way to some Chinese club for £25m


Hmmm....


 


Two things.


Firstly, this smacks of FFP-avoidance (as in, the selling club part-funding a transfer behind-the-scenes to help a FFP deficit). Remember David Luis?


Secondly, Chelsea are desperate to nab Teixera to stop Liverpool signing him, so expect all that cash to be diverted to a big bid for Teixera.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Teixiera is supposed to prefer a switch to Liverpool though, so any rumoured Chelsea efforts might be in vain.

SEMerc
25 January 2016 18:55:48


 


Teixiera is supposed to prefer a switch to Liverpool though, so any rumoured Chelsea efforts might be in vain.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Not if they come with the dosh. The Dippers and Shaktar are miles apart on price.

SJV
25 January 2016 19:15:26


 


Not if they come with the dosh. The Dippers and Shaktar are miles apart on price.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Fair point, and it could well happen if they do sell Ramires. Poor Liverpool 

SEMerc
25 January 2016 19:25:30


 


Fair point, and it could well happen if they do sell Ramires. Poor Liverpool 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Always helps too when your owner can outspend the Dippers and their hapless transfer committee.

Saint Snow
25 January 2016 22:06:44

 


Teixiera is supposed to prefer a switch to Liverpool though, so any rumoured Chelsea efforts might be in vain.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


 


2 years ago, he was supposed to be 'dreaming' of playing for Man U; last summer he was almost pleading for Chelsea to sign him; now he wants desperately to play for Liverpool.


He just wants out of Shakhtar.


If we sign him & he does well, he'll probably tweet his lifelong ambition to play for Real Madrid or Barca.


 


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SEMerc
26 January 2016 11:38:25

Done deal. Townsend to Newcastle for £12m.


That's £2.40m for every PL goal he has ever scored.


#You've been Levyed.

Saint Snow
26 January 2016 13:36:43


Done deal. Townsend to Newcastle for £12m.


That's £2.40m for every PL goal he has ever scored.


#You've been Levyed.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


 


Insane. Ashley has no idea about football. About £10m overpriced


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Twister
26 January 2016 14:10:02
Anyone else wanting Leicester to win the league? It would be the most extraordinary turnaround in Prem history!

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Saint Snow
26 January 2016 14:28:39

Anyone else wanting Leicester to win the league? It would be the most extraordinary turnaround in Prem history!

(And no, I'm not a Leicester supporter...)

Originally Posted by: Twister 


 


Oh, absolutely. It'd be a fantastic story.


 


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