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The Beast from the East
24 January 2018 13:08:31

GEFS not conclusive, but our best option looks to be a meridonal block or "Murr sausage" advecting some colder air into the SE corner. Northern blocking looks very unlikely as has been the case all season


 


 


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Chiltern Blizzard
24 January 2018 13:20:53


GEFS not conclusive, but our best option looks to be a meridonal block or "Murr sausage" advecting some colder air into the SE corner. Northern blocking looks very unlikely as has been the case all season


 


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Models will never be conclusive until T+72 for an easterly so pointless futile to expect any more than general probability trends at >T+200.  


As it is 10 or 11 hit -10c in London at some point over this period, so not at all bad.


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
Rob K
24 January 2018 16:35:57
Another snow event looks to be on the cards at T162 on the GFS.

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2018012412/gfs-1-162.png?12 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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tallyho_83
24 January 2018 16:46:13

another one night stand with the northerly +276



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Rob K
24 January 2018 16:59:02


another one night stand with the northerly +276



Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


Actually rather more than one night - the last week of the GFS run is a bit of a snowfest.


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tallyho_83
24 January 2018 17:03:06

yeah right: - but at least there are signs of Arctic blocking at end of FI




 


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LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
24 January 2018 17:16:12

I have seen all of the GFS and UKMO, GFS USA and Northern Hemisphere Charts.


There is cold Low Pressure areas, and Blocking High's Between Alaska and NE Russia (SIB et all) and an Arctic High as well.


Mild air and SW to NE moving Jetstream is there as well, and so are Cold NW plunges, Siberian High and Central N Atlantic High as well.


This means the there is a lot of mixing going on the the Arctic and Northern Hemisphere, organised areas of High Pressure- less cold and mild weather.


SW flows going NE, and Cold NW SE plunging Low Pressures in various parts of Northern Hemisphere- so quite a dry situation but wintry weather is going to occur but will not be in all areas at all- it will influence less areas!!!.


For us in the UK it looks pretty nice, and I can see that after 144 hrs between 168hrs to 192hrs and between 216 and 240 it looks like cold and wintry weather is still a possibillity as far as GFS is concerned lol!.


And we all are aware that that is well into the future anyway so do not be to worried yet, I'd start hopecasting Come within 48rs of said events, for Wednesday Thursday and also Saturday and Sunday 31 January 1 Feb and 3-5 February hopeful but not yet certain.


GFS looks a bit too good, I like the Central N Atlantic High and the fact that West to east moving Low Pressure will affect NE and E Europe and push that cold pool a bit more to east and NE, while the UK does indeed turn quite cold and snowy ahem.


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Pleasantly settled weather upto Midday on Tuesday 30th January, from this Friday onwards I think....


Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Russwirral
24 January 2018 17:17:21
Interesting how a few runs ago the cold air was all destined to head to Turkey and eastern europe.

The whole synoptic thing aside as thats flipping back and forth anyway, there is much more consistency that cold air is now targeting northern Europe. The synoptics to support this will arrive in different guises over the next few runs too.. but its interesting how Northern Europe is now looking chilly.
doctormog
24 January 2018 17:33:11
Yes, without having any confidence in longer term specifics the trend is an encouraging one generally in the medium to longer term...if you want cold.
Retron
24 January 2018 17:48:22

Number 12 tonight, please!



#footofsnow #1980s (Yeah, I know hashtags don't mean anything - but wow, that'd be one fierce snowstorm. The 500hPa chart shows a mean old upper cold pool too, there would be a foot of level snow for sure from that down here... and for some way inland, too).


Leysdown, north Kent
Phil G
24 January 2018 17:59:26
How's number 20 doing Darren?
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24 January 2018 18:01:54
Interesting options on offer and have been for the last few days so we seem to be at least in broad agreement of some kind of blocking and dry spell of weather which would help me get out of these marshes in Kingston Upon Thames. Key is where the high will end up and given that the weather has been very mild overall in Europe so far + I have booked a skiing holiday for half term February it is bound to get bitterly cold.


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Retron
24 January 2018 18:07:43

How's number 20 doing Darren?

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Rubbish tonight. Of course, number 12 is so far on its own as to be daft (it has highs of -2C and -3C across southern England) but there are still a number with less potent easterlies.


As ever, unlikely to come off (an easterly in general, that is) but at least it's nice eye-candy!


Leysdown, north Kent
marco 79
24 January 2018 18:14:19
Theme of the winter continues....SE tracking jet...GFS showing some decent output in the non reliable timeframe...
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Phil G
24 January 2018 18:46:27


 


Rubbish tonight. Of course, number 12 is so far on its own as to be daft (it has highs of -2C and -3C across southern England) but there are still a number with less potent easterlies.


As ever, unlikely to come off (an easterly in general, that is) but at least it's nice eye-candy!


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Yes something that keeps the hope going. One day! Was looking at the archive charts and Jan '87 for our neck of the woods. When you run the sequence seems such a freak how the cold got here compared to recent times. Don't even get a real sniff nowadays.

nsrobins
24 January 2018 20:03:00

Interesting how a few runs ago the cold air was all destined to head to Turkey and eastern europe.

The whole synoptic thing aside as thats flipping back and forth anyway, there is much more consistency that cold air is now targeting northern Europe. The synoptics to support this will arrive in different guises over the next few runs too.. but its interesting how Northern Europe is now looking chilly.

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


It seems some of the Eastern promise is fading into a Turkish non-Delight. Still, whilst there's still some tasty options there's hope I guess.


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Gusty
24 January 2018 20:47:12

I'm back after a 3 day model break. Nothing has changed. Any potential is at arms length. What is different is that we are 3 days closer to Spring. 


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nsrobins
24 January 2018 23:04:21
The silence speaks volumes 😉
Neil
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tallyho_83
24 January 2018 23:07:06

Interesting how the mid Atlantic ridge never really moves:





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Weathermac
24 January 2018 23:15:36


Interesting how the mid Atlantic ridge never really moves:





Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


 


 


that azores high will move away come spring you see..

tallyho_83
24 January 2018 23:17:44


 


 


 


that azores high will move away come spring you see..


Originally Posted by: Weathermac 


 


Mid Atlantic or Azores HP? or same thing?


Yes I bet and we will get blocking and an easterly in March into April just when we don't want it!!


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Chiltern Blizzard
25 January 2018 00:08:26
18z ens.... definite blocked theme in FI with plenty of runs with very cold episodes.
Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
tallyho_83
25 January 2018 00:42:47

Quite a few cold ensembles:












 


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Retron
25 January 2018 04:57:33

No need to go digging in the ensembles this morning, the op run delivers a proper blast from the east - in FI, of course.



There were quite a few cold runs in last night's 18z GEFS. It still doesn't approach that amazing 12z GEFS suite a couple of days ago, but it's moving in the right direction.


The fly in the ointment is EPS, though; even as GEFS has been gaining easterly members, EPS has been losing them. And in both cases, the chances of an easterly actually happening are at most 25%.


Leysdown, north Kent
Karl Guille
25 January 2018 06:27:00

Yes, three or four sub -10 850hPA runs in the 0z GEFS. The chance of something colder from the east is still a possibility as the month draws to a close but it remains just that, a possibility!


Diagramme GEFS


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