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Andy Woodcock
22 February 2018 20:11:52




Sounds unpleasant 



Anyhow global temperatures still way above average despite the freeze, just because the UK is cold doesn't mean climate change is over...


Originally Posted by: yorkshirelad89 


Nice to see the Yanks getting some mild winter weather for a change!


Andy

Andy Woodcock
Penrith
Cumbria

Altitude 535 feet

"Why are the British so worried about climate change? Any change to their climate can only be an improvement" John Daley 2001
Polar Low
22 February 2018 20:12:18

That does seem to be the latest general message coming out of the met office think that’s the best update I have ever seen from them very encouraging indeed.


 


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/videos/5738429895001


 



Some musings on the current forecasted severe spell:


The most loathed words I heard in the 1970's "its too cold to snow".  Might make the odd reappearance.


"There will be sleet and snow" - always disliked sleet as a waste of time. 


Rarely it was "there will be snow showers, or longer periods of snow"


This episode should be one of those types, pure snow.


Back in the 1980s there were far fewer cars on the roads, we could be set for travel chaos in 2018.  I think its fair to say the system (infrastructure) is going to be severely tested, and Ive a feeling at times we will come up short.


This is one for the coast dwellers, the lowlanders, those with a poor altitude.  This is our chance at glory.


I'm giddy with anticipation.  Its only been a 22 year wait for me.


WI


 


 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 

eddied
22 February 2018 20:13:01
Yes, but will it be a dry wind!?

I’m also a little nervous that it will all break down just ten days after it starts.
Location: Reigate, Surrey 105m ASL

Winter 22/23
Days snow falling: 4
Days snow on ground:8
Max snow depths: 6cm (December 19th ish)

Summer 2022 max 39C on July 19th
Summer 2021 max: 32C on July 18th
Summer 2020 max: 36C on July 31st
Solar Cycles
22 February 2018 20:13:32




Sounds unpleasant 



Anyhow global temperatures still way above average despite the freeze, just because the UK is cold doesn't mean climate change is over...


Originally Posted by: yorkshirelad89 

Climate is always changing.😉

nsrobins
22 February 2018 20:16:34

Yes, but will it be a dry wind!?

I’m also a little nervous that it will all break down just ten days after it starts.

Originally Posted by: eddied 


You’re not serious are you? By the end of next weekend even the most hardened snow fan will be wishing Spring would arrive.

Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Ally Pally Snowman
22 February 2018 20:16:49

ECM has -15 in EA on the Mean chart . at 144

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
tallyho_83
22 February 2018 20:18:05




Sounds unpleasant 



Anyhow global temperatures still way above average despite the freeze, just because the UK is cold doesn't mean climate change is over...


Originally Posted by: yorkshirelad89 


Notice the east/west split over the USA too!?

Home Location - Kellands Lane, Okehampton, Devon (200m ASL)
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Polar Low
22 February 2018 20:18:19

I only mentioned you once Andy burrcoolcool thanks for doing the trick laughing it seems to work but only in limited amounts every few yearscool



 


Nice to see the Yanks getting some mild winter weather for a change!


Andy


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 

moomin75
22 February 2018 20:20:57
Off topic but I just had to dig out my favourite video of Feb 1991.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DspJIrFQZWu8&ved=0ahUKEwjZ_ISRrLrZAhWlDMAKHfU1DnwQwqsBCB8wAA&usg=AOvVaw0fW3gXfLLXlDqheoziXbYa

😁😁😁
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
fairweather
22 February 2018 20:21:12


Think imho 1987 in EA is out on its own wiki even refer to it as very heavy lake effect event for EA nd S/E


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1987_Southeast_England_snowfall


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Yep. That was the big one for Essex and Kent for sure. Over a foot of level snow and days of sub-zero maxima. If it comes even close it would be something special.

S.Essex, 42m ASL
White Meadows
22 February 2018 20:22:58

Global warming my arse.

Originally Posted by: colin46 


😂😂 I’m sure they’ll blame this cold spell on global warming somehow... either that or Brexit, or Trump 

Whether Idle
22 February 2018 20:23:44


 


You’re not serious are you? By the end of next weekend even the most hardened snow fan will be wishing Spring would arrive.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


No way.

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
David M Porter
22 February 2018 20:25:10


 


😂😂 I’m sure they’ll blame this cold spell on global warming somehow... either that or Brexit, or Trump 


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


Or maybe all three.

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Argyle77
22 February 2018 20:30:49
How much colder would it be if the spell of weather was starting in Early January,countless records broken I think.

Isome records are going to go next week,maybe the lowest max day temps for 1st of March is one .


Been waiting over twenty years for a sustained Easterly that’s lasts more than a couple of days


Crepuscular Ray
22 February 2018 20:32:49

Welcome to day ten of the new world order of weather (in the guise of the ECM 12z mean chart)

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2018022212/EDH1-240.GIF?22-0

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


OMG! Was going to drive down to my daughter's in Notts for that weekend. Think I'll be marooned in Edinburgh!

Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
Polar Low
22 February 2018 20:34:00

Wrong thread I know but I cant help myself sorry mods thinking thats the best update I have seen for many years from MET think we get a few few warnings soon.


Met office

UK Outlook for Tuesday 27 Feb 2018 to Thursday 8 Mar 2018:

It will continue very cold through next week, with sunny spells. However, snow showers are likely in many places, heaviest and most frequent in eastern and some central areas. Some spells of more prolonged snow are likely, especially in the east, and particularly later next week, across southern areas. Some locally significant snowfalls are likely although details will remain uncertain until much nearer the event. Strong winds will make it feel bitterly cold at times. Widespread, locally severe frosts are likely. The cold weather will continue into early March, with the northwest seeing the best of any brighter weather. Continuing windy at times, bringing marked wind chill and further snow in places. However the southwest may become milder at times but with further rain, sleet or snow.

UK Outlook for Thursday 8 Mar 2018 to Thursday 22 Mar 2018:

At the start of this period it is likely to be very cold across the UK, with widespread frost and brisk easterly winds from Continental Europe, making it feel raw. This will continue to bring the risk of significant snow across some southern, eastern and central parts of the UK, whereas towards the north and west it will be drier. As we head through the middle of March, there is a lot of uncertainty in the forecast, but it may start to turn more unsettled and less cold with the wettest and mildest weather spreading in from the southwest. In contrast, northern and eastern areas could remain colder well into March.


 


 


 


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GP UPDATE https://www.gavsweathervids.com/   looking good even out to day 10.....


fairweather
22 February 2018 20:36:26


That does seem to be the latest general message coming out of the met office think that’s the best update I have ever seen from them very encouraging indeed.


 


https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/videos/5738429895001


 


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


I like the bit later when referring to the snow potential later in the week " ..could come at us from any direction" !!


Help, duck! 

S.Essex, 42m ASL
Polar Low
22 February 2018 20:38:35

Could you screen shot that last messages  please pain on I Pad  



 


I like the bit later when referring to the snow potential later in the week " ..could come at us from any direction" !!


Help, duck! 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 

fairweather
22 February 2018 20:38:56


 


Back in the 1980s there were far fewer cars on the roads, we could be set for travel chaos in 2018.  I think its fair to say the system (infrastructure) is going to be severely tested, and Ive a feeling at times we will come up short.


This is one for the coast dwellers, the lowlanders, those with a poor altitude.  This is our chance at glory.


I'm giddy with anticipation.  Its only been a 22 year wait for me.


WI


 


 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


S.Essex, 42m ASL
White Meadows
22 February 2018 20:44:08

How much colder would it be if the spell of weather was starting in Early January,countless records broken I think.

Isome records are going to go next week,maybe the lowest max day temps for 1st of March is one .


Been waiting over twenty years for a sustained Easterly that’s lasts more than a couple of days


Originally Posted by: Argyle77 

probably only 1-2 degrees. The sea is very nearly at its coldest now which reduces unfavourable moderation. And the sun isn’t anything to worry about with such berserk bum-shivering air temps.

Polar Low
22 February 2018 20:45:51

And the Japs finish the early  evening off very nicely



Whether Idle
22 February 2018 20:45:55


probably only 1-2 degrees. The sea is very nearly at its coldest now which reduces unfavourable moderation. And the sun isn’t anything to worry about with such berserk bum-shivering air temps.


Originally Posted by: White Meadows 


I think we are about to find out that it will make little difference.  Expect some bone-snappingly cold maxima.

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
roger63
22 February 2018 20:45:58


 


No way.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Seconded!

DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
22 February 2018 20:49:26


Think imho 1987 in EA is out on its own wiki even refer to it as very heavy lake effect event for EA nd S/E


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1987_Southeast_England_snowfall


 

Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


And this from 1987 is what a Kentish snowdrift should look like - deep enough to trap a snowplough sent to clear the railway line at Lenham. The video shows the rotary plough sent all the way from Scotland which was in the end needed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGqdV9A0Zns


 

War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
jhall
22 February 2018 20:50:12


 <about January 1987>


Yep. That was the big one for Essex and Kent for sure. Over a foot of level snow and days of sub-zero maxima. If it comes even close it would be something special.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Even in SW Surrey the snow was pretty spectacular. Not quite a foot, but possibly the deepest single fall that I can remember. It was the only time in a career from 1968 to 2003 that I was unable to get to work because of snow. On the Wednesday morning, I managed to get as far as Guildford station, where a railway employee was telling everyone: "There are no trains. We don't know when there will be any trains. We advise you to go home." So I did.

Cranleigh, Surrey
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