Whenever very intense storms turn up in a model run in the 6-10 day range, I'm inclined to view the output with more skepticism than usual, even if there's full agreement for it... what we saw in the run-up to this weekend being an excellent case for this.
ECM has no such monsters on it's 12z op run so it seems a bit more sensible. It's important whether such a powerful storm system develops or not, as it's location allows it to drive a strong westerly flow across the UK to bombard the UK with a rapid train of secondary lows, at least one of these very nasty indeed on each and every one of the past few GFSP runs.
Very wet and windy with gales to severe gales, occasionally storm force winds. I can see why those who are taking GFSP in FI at all seriously are feeling negative tonight. If support for the super-storm grows tomorrow, I'll start to worry too (while also becoming a bit excited in my own slightly insane way).
My earlier point regarding new strat. warming in the model output remains valid though - in fact it's gaining strength in the output, with GFS and GFSP still favouring an origin in the Atlantic (GFS rather weak with it though - builds to end of high res then suddenly dissipates) while ECM and JMA are going for something more Greenland-based.
This is very different to what we have been seeing these past couple of months, as those warmings have been on the other side of the hemisphere, always depositing the vortex somewhere not far from our shores (i.e. Canada/Greenland or Scandinavia/Siberia).
If this new one manages to be more Greenland based rather than Atlantic, it should at least help to shift the vortex further away from us, allowing high pressure to become more of a dominant force in the Atlantic/Europe sector.
Even if it is more like what the GFSP 18z shows (which has trended stronger than the 12z but no closer to Greenland), it will give the vortex a lot of trouble in the upper levels and could cause a lot of weakening:
That day 16 chart shows the sort of vortex state you'd usually expect to see during the winter to spring transition period. The associated late Feb-Early April period often sees a lot more high latitude blocking and that's because of this marked reduction in vortex strength. So it's a promising thing to see from what is one of the least effective solutions in terms of the position of the warming event.
We're basically in a situation where it has turned out that at least one more blow to the vortex is needed to take it down than was expected in the pre-season outlook. The timescales involved in wave breaking mean that this translates to a set back of some 10-14 days, maybe longer. So we're talking second half of January for any marked changes to occur in the troposphere.
To those who play down the strat. forecasting methods, so what if the strat. forecast didn't hit the bulls-eye with the number of warming events needed and hence the timing of events? That doesn't in the least bit make it obsolete, just another long-range forecasting tool that has the inevitable wide margins of error.
Obviously, if the vortex doesn't give way at any point in the next month then the worth of such an outlook even as a rough guide to what might happen (which is the intention) will be starting to look unreasonably poor and there will be some serious thinking to be done.
The main concern in the meantime is whether we see that super-intense low in the W. Atlantic which seems to be a matter of how much energy associated with the subtropical jet phases with that associated with the main Atlantic jet in that region. ECM avoids the phasing and that's why it's so different.
Finally, my favourite free-view chart of the evening:
Much stronger and earlier warming (compared to GFS/GFSP) on our side of the hemisphere from JMA and it's focused over Greenland!
This is actually quite close to what ECM shows, so we are seeing an unusually strong disagreement in the strat. for the 7-9 day range.
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