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GIBBY
09 January 2015 09:15:03

HERE IS MY LATEST ANALYSIS FROM THE OUTPUTS OF THE WEATHER COMPUTER PREDICTION MODELS FOR TWO WEEKS FROM 8AM TODAY FRIDAY JANUARY 9TH 2015.

NEXT UPDATE SATURDAY JANUARY 10TH 2015 08:00

THE CURRENT GENERAL SITUATION
Further vigorous depressions will move East to the North of Scotland sweeping another broad mild sector across the UK today and followed by an active and squally cold front moving SE across all areas tomorrow.

MODELS-2 WEEK HEADLINE Rather changeable and often windy or even stormy and sometimes mild with rain at times. Possibly somewhat colder and drier at times later.

THE JET STREAM ENSEMBLE FORECAST The Jet Stream Forecast shows a very strong Jet Stream being maintained across the UK or just to the North in the short to mid term before it steadily weakens later as the result of a weakening vortex to the North of the UK.

GFS OPERATIONAL The GFS operational continues to show very disturbed weather with another surge of powerful Low pressure shown about 1 week from now with severe gales and heavy rain followed by cold and showery conditions with some snow in places especially but not exclusively across the North. Later in the run things show signs of settling down as High pressure moves in close to the South with quieter and drier weather at that point.

THE GFS PARALLEL RUN The Parallel run is broadly similar in the first week with the same potent storm as the operational run shown to batter the UK 1 week from now with severe or storm force winds, heavy rain and some snow as cold air sweeps Southeast behind it. This depression marks the catalysts which brings about a change as building High pressure through the Atlantic brings cold North and then NE winds with snow showers for many for a time before a collapsing ridge across the UK brings a cold and frosty period followed by a reset pattern to wet, windy and milder conditions late in the period.

THE GFS CONTROL The GFS control run too shows the powerful storm in a weeks time with it's attendant very wet and windy weather. the sequence thereafter is less dramatic from a wintry point of view bringing cold zonality with rain and sleet with snow showers at times most likely in often NW winds before something colder and still very unsettled sets up at the end of the run as Low pressure over the UK sinks SE.

THE GFS CLUSTERS The GFS Clusters show a mixed viewpoint this morning with the main cluster supporting a strong rise of pressure from the SW towards Western Britain in two weeks time enhancing the risk of a Northerly flow with wintry showers across the UK. There is a more minimalistic support of 15% for a continuation of Low pressure to the North and High to the South continuing to drive the weather across the UK.

UKMO UKMO continues to project very little change in the weather pattern across the UK over the next 6 days. Therefore a continuation of spells of very mild and windy weather with rain and occasional short periods of cold and bright weather with wintry showers this still principally across the North.

THE FAX CHARTS The Fax Charts shows a continuing changeable theme surrounding two types of weather. One being mild, windy and occasionally wet weather and the other cold, windy and showery weather with some snow on hills across the North, the latter more likely later next week.

GEM GEM today aso shows a powerful storm system in the vicinity of the UK a week from now with gales and heavy rain. This model too shows a change behind this storm to much colder weather across the UK from a much more Southerly Jet flow and a lessening of the vortex's strength to the North. With Low pressure close to the South and cold air entrained across the UK snow or sleet will be commonplace within a very unsettled setup in 10 days time.

NAVGEM NAVGEM reflects no end to the Westerly flow either with often mild, wet and very windy conditions holding sway over the UK with short and colder periods with showers in between with little change in overall synoptics shown one week from now. It too shows another powerful storm system across the UK in a weeks time exacerbating the unsettled and stormy theme.

ECM ECM this morning also shows a lot of strong Westerly winds with spells of rain and showers to come for all especially across the North. As with all other models it too shows a major storm system later next week but holds it further NW and tempering itt's affects a way from Southernmost parts somewhat. Because of this too the resulting change after it's passage is also muted into a broef collapsing ridge with a cold and bright interlude giving way soon after to a return to Atlantic Westerlies.

ECM 10 DAY MEAN The ECM 10 Day Mean Chart shows a trough across western Europe which should bring the Uk a good chance of a chilly North or NW flow with wintry showers. Low pressure is also likely to lie to the NW and this could indicate a cold zonal pattern with the Low to the NW feeding the trough East of the UK and maintaining rather colder and unsettled weather across the UK.

NOTABLE TREND CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS RUNS The trend this morning remains quite fluid but all models share in the theme of a deep Low later next week bringing a period of very volatile winds and rainfall and a possible change into something rather colder for a time on it's clearance East next weekend.

MY THOUGHTS I think the main talikng point within the output this morning is the overwhelming support for another very powerful storm system crossing the Atlantic to lie in the vicinity of the British Isles a week from now. Some output puts this alarmingly across the top of the UK with storm force winds and heavy rain giving rise to disruption for a time late next week while ECM shows a little more relief in holding it more towards the NW and away from at least Southernmost parts. Wherever, it ends up is deterministic on the events thereafter and all output shows variations on this, most of which at least hinge on a spell of rather colder weather as pressure builds North on it's wake across the Atlantic. Something of a Northerly or North-easterly is shown for a time at least from some output with a heady cocktail of wintry precipitation across the UK as a result. However, if ECM is to be believed such a change to colder weather would be very short lived as the traditional toppling ridge soon shows milder West winds back in soon after Day 10. The GFS Clusters go one step further with this build of pressure ending up in two weeks time with the main of the clusters supporting a build of pressure close to the West of the UK with a Northerly flow promoting some cold weather with scattered wintry showers in places. In Summary it does look that the long sustained period of strong Westerly winds fuelled by a strong Jet stream is showing signs of weakening late next week and beyond. As the models are likely to show many different options of how this break in the pattern is expected to unfold over the coming days we will have to see how things develop but I certainly wouldn't rule out a change to colder conditions across the UK to end the month possibly with some snowfall.


Martin G
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kmoorman
09 January 2015 09:27:46
Thanks Martin / Gibby. Lots of weather on the way.
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roger63
09 January 2015 09:54:09

GEFS at 0h  broadly shows,at 240h Azores HP and jet to north pattern still largely in control.


By 384h (a very long way off) HP is in control, only 30% of ENS truly zonal ,with roughly 50  % of the ENS with HP positioned to deliver cold.Notably there are Scandi HP's,3 Greenland?icealnd and 4 over the UK.


 


 


 

Brian Gaze
09 January 2015 09:56:06

In the shorter term the 6z GFSP shows 16C this evening in parts of England!



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Nordic Snowman
09 January 2015 10:14:20


In the shorter term the 6z GFSP shows 16C this evening in parts of England!



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Huge difference between the N and S there and again, without wanting to seemingly trump up the MetO even further, it further demonstrates their very good monthly forecasts thus far, with terms such as mild or very mild, interspersed with colder, wintry showers, often very windy etc, etc.


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The Beast from the East
09 January 2015 10:16:12

http://www.knmi.nl/exp/pluim/vijftiendaagse/index.php


No sign of a change in the ECM ens. A few cold options but most go with zonal theme


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The Beast from the East
09 January 2015 10:17:32

Boom


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2015010906/gfsnh-0-144.png?6


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The Beast from the East
09 January 2015 10:19:10

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfsp/runs/2015010906/gfsnh-0-144.png?6


Parrallel takes it little more north


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The Beast from the East
09 January 2015 10:26:39

Yes, the change in uppers is quite dramatic from today to tomorrow


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2015010906/gfs-1-12.png?6


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2015010906/gfs-1-36.png?6


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The Beast from the East
09 January 2015 10:37:31

Standard toppler. Better than nothing I suppose


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfsp/runs/2015010906/gfsnh-0-192.png?6


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The Beast from the East
09 January 2015 10:49:28

Iceland seems to have upset the Parrallel run 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfsp/runs/2015010906/gfsnh-0-240.png?6


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Nordic Snowman
09 January 2015 10:58:19


Boom


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2015010906/gfsnh-0-144.png?6


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Have Arsenal just scored?


 


I wouldn't say zonal at all. After today, I wouldn't say mild either. Typical January weather for most.


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html


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Rob K
09 January 2015 11:05:02
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Nordic Snowman
09 January 2015 11:06:35

That is quite a storm on the GFS next week Originally Posted by: Rob K 

">http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rmgfs1471.gif


...and consistently being shown


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kmoorman
09 January 2015 11:07:19


 


Have Arsenal just scored?


 


I wouldn't say zonal at all. After today, I wouldn't say mild either. Typical January weather for most.


http://www.weathercast.co.uk/services/ensemble-forecast.html


Originally Posted by: Nordic Snowman 


 


Lots of snow for you?


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AlvinMeister
09 January 2015 11:09:30
The models keep hinting at a Christmas Day 2004 setup eventually, but it seems so hard to get to!

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/archive/ra/2004/Rrea00120041225.gif 

This brought heavy snow for NW parts. It toppled, but goes to show even topplers can bring the goods for some.
Nordic Snowman
09 January 2015 11:26:02


 


 


Lots of snow for you?


Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


 


Bjorli is a funny place. If the wind isn't NW or at least W, we generally get just flurries. S/SE/SW isn't great for ppn. Hints at another scandi trough next weekend though :-)


Tomorrow is looking very snowy and very windy i.e blizzards.... ;-)


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Brian Gaze
09 January 2015 11:40:44

I'm also not keen on using the GEFS mean chart most of the time, but the 6z one for Sunday 18th June hides a lot of the variations but illustrates a key point of this winter to date. The Azores has has been a big player and continues to call the shots. Whilst this remains the case cold shots are likely to be transient and fairly feeble in the south.


My hunch is the Azores HP will finally bubble up into Scandi during Feb. That would fit in very nicely with the TWO winter forecast so perhaps I'm blinkered on this. 



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Stormchaser
09 January 2015 11:53:07

GFSP loves to try and obliterate us.


Not really any overall trend with this storm to work with at the moment - just variation on the track between NW of the UK and a more direct hit, most runs showing an intense feature one way or another, nearly all impacting a large swathe of the UK, ECM a notable exception.


Same lack of overall trend goes for how the next push from the Atlantic behaves as it runs over the ridge, with little cross-model agreement except, as it happens, for GFSP mirroring the ECM 00z quite well on it's 06z run:


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Some differences over the high Arctic but striking similarity between them in terms of having a major trough transfer to or just NE of the UK via a route brushing Greenland then turning SE as it reaches Iceland.


GFS continues to explore a version of events in which there is no phasing of the jet, the subtropical jet instead tracking straight over to the UK. It's a flatter solution for the Atlantic but still capable of producing a sinking NW Europe trough as the 06z shows us. Trouble is, there's not as much cold air being drawn into the mix due to the absence of a tall mid-Atlantic ridge.


 


This sinking NW Europe trough idea for the 10-14 day range has been an increasingly prominent theme on recent ECM ensemble output.


GEFS had been showing it quite well even on the mean charts, but the 00z suite had everything from the Atlantic powering NE to a Scandi High, with a mean featuring an amplified ridge right across the UK... too much scatter for conclusive results.


 


On the other side of the pond they don't expect the jet phasing (or lack of) to be resolved until it's within the 6-7 day range, so a clearer picture for the week 2 progression by the end of the weekend perhaps.


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Fothergill
09 January 2015 12:35:03

Looks like a shift from stormy Wlys/SWlys to a cooler less stormy more NWly influenced flow as a result of ridging in the Atlantic. Whether this results in cold/snow or any note is another matter. There can be a fine line between cold and snowy and cool and wet. I think on balance the latter is lookng more likely ATM. Best chane of snow in the N especially on higher ground.


Certainly lots of variety coming up with gales, rain, snow, thunder, hail, mild, cold. SWlys, NWlys, Nlys perhaps. Beats the boring stuff we've had so far.


ECM ens anomalies day 10



NAEFS day 13


Stormchaser
09 January 2015 12:50:24

'Amplified zonal' may be a good way to some up the likely pattern for weeks 3 into 4 of January based on current model output. Lots of luck needed to get snow in the south, less so further north though persistent lying snow may be hard to come by away from high ground.


It will then be a question as to whether a more blocked pattern can establish as we near month's end. The jury remains out on that one - Ian Ferguson reports not enough of a coherent signal yet, which is a common situation when 'standard zonal' (i.e. flat) is the outside chance.


 


Having said all this, I can see how any toning down of the Atlantic jet days 9-10 could allow for some height rises to our N and/or NE which could change the emphasis to a more continental flow at least for a time.


It was hinted on the GFSP 00z run and explored more effectively by the GEM 00z op run. A fair few attempts in the GEFS suite too.


Always worth considering given how poorly the models tend to pick up on this, but never worth betting on .


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Gavin P
09 January 2015 13:07:07

Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


JMA Friday - Sign Of A Cooler Late January?


http://www.gavsweathervids.com/


CFS and BCC also features + A look at the risk of another storm next week! 


 



I'm also not keen on using the GEFS mean chart most of the time, but the 6z one for Sunday 18th June hides a lot of the variations but illustrates a key point of this winter to date. The Azores has has been a big player and continues to call the shots. Whilst this remains the case cold shots are likely to be transient and fairly feeble in the south.


My hunch is the Azores HP will finally bubble up into Scandi during Feb. That would fit in very nicely with the TWO winter forecast so perhaps I'm blinkered on this. 



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


GWV Winter forecast too! We can but hope!


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Chiltern Blizzard
09 January 2015 13:39:06


In the shorter term the 6z GFSP shows 16C this evening in parts of England!



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Feels quite spring-like out there (out of the wind).....  Also, people travelling up the A9 from Scotland's central belt will get quite  a shock when they get out of their car!  6c difference between pixels  is impressive (even if some of that does reflects increasing altitude).  If each pixel represents 20 miles, that's a degree every 3 miles of so


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Cumbrian Snowman
09 January 2015 15:12:00
Its 1510hrs and its 5.4c here in Brampton. North Cumbria

Does that last chart say I should be 13c by 1800hrs !!

Appears unlikley at the moment
Stormchaser
09 January 2015 15:25:56

Its 1510hrs and its 5.4c here in Brampton. North Cumbria

Does that last chart say I should be 13c by 1800hrs !!

Appears unlikley at the moment

Originally Posted by: Cumbrian Snowman 


It does appear that the highest temperatures are expected to occur this evening, but a 7.6*C rise from your 15:10 figure would be extraordinary!


Scraping up past 12*C here on route to a predicted 14*C. I've known June days struggling to get much higher 


12z GFS and GFSP runs getting underway... out to +6 hours so far, no marked changes to report 


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