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stophe
11 January 2015 08:44:17

Its going to be a wet one  for London within a couple of days. First from a cold front rushing through on Monday night.The second from Thursdays storm.


Latest 15 days ensemble forecast cumulated rainfall for London

Col
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11 January 2015 09:45:38

its looking very scarey this morning for all parts of the uk

Originally Posted by: tinybill 


 


Hope so.


I love a good gale!


Col
Bolton, Lancashire
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Gooner
11 January 2015 09:48:36

Roofers will be rubbing their hands


I hate strong winds , especially in the dark, you can hear all the noises but have no idea what the damage is


 


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


NickR
11 January 2015 09:54:29


Roofers will be rubbing their hands


I hate strong winds , especially in the dark, you can hear all the noises but have no idea what the damage is


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Quite. My roof is without most of its ridge tiles after Friday night!... no way I can get anything done before Wed night, so just hoping it doesn't get any worse. At least the roofing felt seems to be doing its job and keeping the rain out of the loft.


 


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Durham
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Gooner
11 January 2015 09:54:35

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2015011106/gfsnh-0-84.png?6


incoming ...............gulp!


At this stage it looks  a tad further North but no doubt all subject to change


EDIT further South .........same applies though..............tomorrow it will be in the IOW ( JFF )


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


llamedos
11 January 2015 10:03:37

Certainly some very strong winds if it maintains what's currently being indicated as it's likely track/intensity. 


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nsrobins
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11 January 2015 11:38:59

Whilst the nuances ebb and flow the basic set-up is one of a very windy spell Weds evening through to late Thursday for some areas, especially it seems inland Wales and the Midlands and exposed SW coastal areas. Track and intensity continues to vary model to model but as I said yesterday it'll be in E4 range on Monday so no doubt more detail and associated warnings will be released then.
The worst case scenarios continue to look worrying but they always do!


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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tinybill
11 January 2015 12:01:45

is it me the latest models are now saying the storm could be more south a bit like the saint jude track last year but a lot stronger
http://www.meteociel...6&carte=&mode=0

hobensotwo
11 January 2015 12:37:39
No local warnings out for the channel Islands yet.
Me thinks we're a little to far south for this one.
Still time for change though I guess.
Retron
11 January 2015 13:46:46

The ECM gusts chart from the 0z run is very nasty - a significant boost in speeds over England and Wales (and Ireland, for that matter).


I can't post the charts as they're subject to quite draconian copyright and they're not publically available. However, there's nothing stopping me from drawing my own version! This is the 10M wind gust chart for midnight on Thursday, in knots.



Leysdown, north Kent
idj20
11 January 2015 14:04:19

I have just read it as being described as a "possibly once in every 10-15 years" event. That sound serious - given we have had some belters last Autumn and into winter (including St Judes).
  While Rachel does look like being a big lass, I am expecting mean wind speeds of around 45 mph for a few hours on Thursday morning with up to 80 mph gusts - don't we get to have that kind of thing once or twice most winters? To put it in perspective and for comparison purposes, the St Burns Day storm of Jan '90 saw to 60 mph sustained with up to 100 mph gust across a large area of the UK.


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picturesareme
11 January 2015 14:16:12


I have just read it as being described as a "possibly once in every 10-15 years" event. That sound serious - given we have had some belters last Autumn and into winter (including St Judes).
  While Rachel does look like being a big lass, I am expecting mean wind speeds of around 45 mph for a few hours on Thursday morning with up to 80 mph gusts - don't we get to have that kind of thing once or twice most winters? To put it in perspective and for comparison purposes, the St Burns Day storm of Jan '90 saw to 60 mph sustained with up to 100 mph gust across a large area of the UK.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


 


it happens every year, as soon as stormy looking storm sets eyes on these here shores, this forum fills with the usual draconian none sense from the usual suspects. The tabloids print the usual crap.. "Storm of the xxx" or "worst storm in xxx" etc. Recent years even the mainstream media has been getting in on the hype. 


It drives me up the wall.

hobensotwo
11 January 2015 14:17:11
It would need to be some event to fall into a once in a 10-15 year category for down here.
70 to 80 mph gusts are not that uncommon during winter.
nsrobins
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11 January 2015 14:24:06


 


 


it happens every year, as soon as stormy looking storm sets eyes on these here shores, this forum fills with the usual draconian none sense from the usual suspects. The tabloids print the usual crap.. "Storm of the xxx" or "worst storm in xxx" etc. Recent years even the mainstream media has been getting in on the hype. 


It drives me up the wall.


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


I might be misinterpreting your meaning, but are you suggesting this thread is 'filling up' with OTT comments and analysis?
I've seen it in other forums and facebook pages - if I could borrow your phrase 'from the usual suspects' - but this thread has been largely level and sensible with the analysis and projections.


Show me an example of 'draconian nonsense' and I'll be happy to consider it. Note I am not a moderator and do not make the rules so you can say what you like but it would be useful to limit the observations in this thread to those that people would find useful in the circumstances


 


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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picturesareme
11 January 2015 14:47:07


 


I might be misinterpreting your meaning, but are you suggesting this thread is 'filling up' with OTT comments and analysis?
I've seen it in other forums and facebook pages - if I could borrow your phrase 'from the usual suspects' - but this thread has been largely level and sensible with the analysis and projections.


Show me an example of 'draconian nonsense' and I'll be happy to consider it. Note I am not a moderator and do not make the rules so you can say what you like but it would be useful to limit the observations in this thread to those that people would find useful in the circumstances


 


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


In this thread and model output there have been - I'm on a phone so I can't go copy & paste examples. Just go back an read for yourself. The first 2 pages of this thread has a number of them. :-)

idj20
11 January 2015 14:55:50


 


I might be misinterpreting your meaning, but are you suggesting this thread is 'filling up' with OTT comments and analysis?
I've seen it in other forums and facebook pages - if I could borrow your phrase 'from the usual suspects' - but this thread has been largely level and sensible with the analysis and projections.


Show me an example of 'draconian nonsense' and I'll be happy to consider it. Note I am not a moderator and do not make the rules so you can say what you like but it would be useful to limit the observations in this thread to those that people would find useful in the circumstances


 


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 



Indeed, that's where I came across that "every 15 years" comment. Perhaps I should have known better but it did cause me to rub my worry beads even more than usual.  After all, I do live right on the coastal edge and what with me being a home carer looking after a poorly and brain-addled elderly mother, this is the kind of hassle I could do without. Of course, the younger me would be saying "Oh yeah, Baby! Bring it on" but things are different these days. I now look at the forecast for nicer weather to calm my frayed nerves.

Off to check that I have all my home insurance details and that they are bang up to date.  
 
Of course, if it'll all come with blizzards then I might be a bit more willing, but snow is as rare as hen's teeth around here under this westerly "cold zonal" type set up.


Folkestone Harbour. 
nsrobins
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11 January 2015 16:08:13


 


In this thread and model output there have been - I'm on a phone so I can't go copy & paste examples. Just go back an read for yourself. The first 2 pages of this thread has a number of them. :-)


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


The first 2 pages of this thread are populated in the main with observations and comments on the model output being shown at the time, with links to illustrate the opinion. I can't see much in the way of 'nonsense' so I'm going to have to disagree with you.
Maybe if you have a particular issue with the posts you should start a thread for 'sensationalist and unjustified opinion about the stormy weather this week' and see how it goes?


Anyway, back to the purpose of this discussion:
The 12Z GFSold so far has the low a bit further North but deeper so the wind field on it's southern and SW flank is more extensive but just as keen. GFSP looks as close as it has been so far to it's cousin GFSold - 945mb to 950mb entering far N England moving ENE and slowing as it exits into the N Sea. Starting to get nearer a concensus now on path and depth.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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colin46
11 January 2015 16:12:36
BBC weather for week ahead on website just shows a pretty typical weeks weather in mid Jan......no mention of anything severe wind wise,no widespread snow and temperatures all around normal....so I fail to see what all the fuss is about personally!
shine on you crazy diamond
192.104 m / 630.262 feet ASL
11 January 2015 16:23:34

BBC weather for week ahead on website just shows a pretty typical weeks weather in mid Jan......no mention of anything severe wind wise,no widespread snow and temperatures all around normal....so I fail to see what all the fuss is about personally!

Originally Posted by: colin46 


They are rightly being cautions until the details of the system are firmed up.


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Gooner
11 January 2015 16:39:41

BBC weather for week ahead on website just shows a pretty typical weeks weather in mid Jan......no mention of anything severe wind wise,no widespread snow and temperatures all around normal....so I fail to see what all the fuss is about personally!

Originally Posted by: colin46 


It will no doubt be updated


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Whether Idle
11 January 2015 17:03:31


This version of events  in 3 and a half days from GME  looks nasty for south coasters.  Watch out IDJ.  I note the jet is overhead at the same time.  risk of a "stingjet".



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
idj20
11 January 2015 17:14:49



This version of events  in 3 and a half days from GME  looks nasty for south coasters.  Watch out IDJ.  I note the jet is overhead at the same time.  risk of a "stingjet".



Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 



And thus may well be the case - but it seems a bit odd how GME is still flapping about like a fish that has been washed ashore by showing outputs quite different to both GFS models and even the ECM which has been pretty consistent for quite a while.


Folkestone Harbour. 
The Beast from the East
11 January 2015 17:32:00



  While Rachel does look like being a big lass


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Who decided to call it Rachel


Shannon would've been better!


 


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SEMerc
11 January 2015 17:41:04


 


Who decided to call it Rachel


Shannon would've been better!


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


What about Shaznay; all dark and tempestuous

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