absolutely. And furthermore some of the ens I have seen today have been the coldest for almost 2 years. 

Sit back and relax. Some will see snow, some folk won't. 

And by the way- as you mostly know I don't particularly like the stuff anyway! 😀

ECM T+144. Quite like that with the -6 uppers as the low comes through.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2015011512/ECH1-144.GIF?15-0

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2015011512/ECH0-144.GIF?15-0

Cold right across the UK, I'd be amazed if we didn't see snow from this set up, even south of the M4, or is it too far West

A good chart close up at t72 ecm full of promise.

Yes a rather nice ECM 12z run up to this point at least. That Low does look loaded with wintry goodness potential for many.

oh dear ECM looks like its going to sink at 168

Not keen on ECM+168 - everything seems to be flattening out...

Yep, I have a bad feeling about what T+192 will show.

Coldish uppers (-4 to -6) hang on at T+192, but look north and the fat lady is clearing her throat. Oh dear.

GFS control almost the same as ECM. Very quick collapse. Seems a new trend has emerged tonight.

Yep, a collapse in Europe. Now where have we heard that before.

 Getting colder, but then less so.

impossible to be accurate with a snow forecast at this range but I would hazard a guess that Buxton would be quite badly affected, tues/weds but as I said too far out to say, check back Sunday night, but even then things can change

You are probably best leaving it until Sat am when the broadcast forecasts - both local and national - will be able to put much more detail on conditions in The White Peak on Monday. It goes without saying if there is any snowfall to be found, it will find Buxton, one of he snowiest towns in England. As a rough summary there'll probably be lying snow around but not much falling from the sky at that time.

12Z ECM turns the screw on our patience once again. My advice would be to take what you get one day at a time.

It does indeed - especially as nothing much has changed in my view. We still have a cold week to come and if we're having to look at day 8 or 9 for a breakdown, goodness me!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, please don't get overly hung up on operational runs. The ensembles are the way to go!

Yep, and I'll continue to delete his posts whilst the theme carries on. 

Re the snow tomorrow night on GFS - absolutely nothing on the BBC forecast 

cold looking jap run

This upcoming cold-cool spell has similarities of the one before Christmas with a toppling high, if the ECM is to be believed.

Colder than average with the chance of some snow, particularly in the north and with altitude.  The odd sleety shower around.  None of the output is showing deep cold, but it is showing something colder than we have been used to and the CET should take a hit.

WI

How do you manage to ever win a cricket match with such a positive outlook lol

the sinking is 7 days out , snow events before then and some very hard frosts, how is it finished before it starts??