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Ally Pally Snowman
12 January 2019 18:23:51

Finishes off with a noon temperature below -4C across most of the UK, over the deep snowfields....

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=384&mode=9&runpara=1

Originally Posted by: Retron 


 


 


-6c in my back yard. another spectacular effort from the Para 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/de/topkarten.php?map=20&model=gfs&var=5&run=12&time=384&lid=PARA&h=0&mv=0&tr=3#mapref


 


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JACKO4EVER
12 January 2019 18:24:09
Brisk in here today, though a subtle rise in 850’s can’t be ignored. Could be some knife edge scenarios where only a few miles apart separates rain from snow. Still looking quite decent for those up north though. Next weekend needs to be resolved before anything else can be considered going forward.
marting
12 January 2019 18:26:28

Some excellent GEFS tonight, something for everyone out in FI. Agree that Para run is exceptional.


Edit just seen the ensembles and dropped back down tonight again. 112 snow rows Liverpool!
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Rob K
12 January 2019 18:33:43

Brisk in here today, though a subtle rise in 850’s can’t be ignored. Could be some knife edge scenarios where only a few miles apart separates rain from snow. Still looking quite decent for those up north though. Next weekend needs to be resolved before anything else can be considered going forward.

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


Don't forget that the main  reason the 850s look high is that the pressure is very low, On some charts you can see that what looks like a warm blob is actually just the centre of a very low pressure system.


 


GFSP 12Z is the run of the winter so far. By the end it has lows in minus double figures and highs of -6C here.


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JACKO4EVER
12 January 2019 18:34:50


 


Don't forget that the main  reason the 850s look high is that the pressure is very low, On some charts you can see that what looks like a warm blob is actually just the centre of a very low pressure system.


 


GFSP 12Z is the run of the winter so far. By the end it has lows in ins double figures and highs of -6C here.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


yes Rob fair point- it’s going to be fascinating how it pans out 

Rob K
12 January 2019 18:37:37
Actually I had missed the 6Z parallel run - for the south that was even marginally colder. But two runs on the trot with widespread ice days - something's brewing at last.
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tallyho_83
12 January 2019 18:37:59

 


The differences on 25th January 2019:


12z parallel chart @ 312 hrs:



 


MIDDAY TEMPS - SUB-ZERO NATIONWIDE? - Mildest part? Aberdeen/?



 


The snow depth:



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NOW THE GFS OP run @ 312:



 


Midday Temps hold above freezing!



 


The Snow Depth:



 


GFS OP always seems to be milder than the Parallel? 


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doctormog
12 January 2019 18:42:53


MIDDAY TEMPS - SUB-ZERO NATIONWIDE? - Mildest part? Aberdeen/?


 


 


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


It’s purely hypothetical at that range Sean but Aberdeen is not in the sea. The chart shows a temperature of just below freezing, a good few degrees colder than parts of Cornwall. 


kmoorman
12 January 2019 18:46:38

Usual fluctuations in the Brighton Snow Row - 62 is the current score.



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roadrunnerajn
12 January 2019 18:49:39


 


It’s purely hypothetical at that range Sean but Aberdeen is not in the sea. The chart shows a temperature of just below freezing, a good few degrees colder than parts of Cornwall. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Cheers I noticed that.... however in a NE cold flow we would be close to freezing here except for the coastal strip.


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doctormog
12 January 2019 18:53:12


 


Cheers I noticed that.... however in a NE cold flow we would be close to freezing here except for the coastal strip.


Originally Posted by: roadrunnerajn 


Yes you’re right of course, I was just correcting Sean’s idea that Aberdeen was somehow an island off the east coast. 


Brian Gaze
12 January 2019 18:54:48
Someone asked about the snow row recently. It's max is 23, GEFS 1 to 20, control, mean and GFS. It's different to MC cause if the same run has snow 4x in one day it is only counted once.
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Arbroath 1320
12 January 2019 18:55:42

ECM 12z at t216 is very different from the GFS 12z at the same time. The Azores HP is spoiling the party?

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=1&run=12&time=216&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref


 


 


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Ally Pally Snowman
12 January 2019 18:57:16

ECM puts a bit of a downer in proceedings cold but not what we want Azores high far to close. The major models all very different still


 


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Gooner
12 January 2019 18:58:53


ECM 12z at t216 is very different from the GFS 12z at the same time. The Azores HP is spoiling the party?

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=1&run=12&time=216&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24#mapref


 


 


Originally Posted by: Arbroath 1320 


Poor from ECM and quite different from this mornings effort 


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Ally Pally Snowman
12 January 2019 19:00:52


 


Poor from ECM and quite different from this mornings effort 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Odds on massive mild outlier at day 10 ECM all over the place . In Para we trust!


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doctormog
12 January 2019 19:01:06
If you look at the movement from 216 to 240hr on that run, if the ECM had an “FI” section it would be a thing of beauty.
Arcus
12 January 2019 19:02:13
Well that's a keep-your-feet-on-the-ground effort from ECM... We'll see how Brian's ENS graph Y axis copes with it later.
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Rob K
12 January 2019 19:05:07
Yes ECM at 240 looks pretty awful but it could potentially be setting up a northerly down the line

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Gusty
12 January 2019 19:10:29

ECM at 240 hours....ouch. 


This cannot be ignored.



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Shropshire
12 January 2019 19:10:37

Yes ECM at 240 looks pretty awful but it could potentially be setting up a northerly down the line

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Yes we would be going for a reload by day 11-12, but at least something interesting is in the mid-range on the ECM tonight.


 


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David M Porter
12 January 2019 19:12:06

If you look at the movement from 216 to 240hr on that run, if the ECM had an “FI” section it would be a thing of beauty.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I think that is what a few GFS op runs in the last day or two have been suggesting happening during the week after next, after the initial colder blast from the north during the coming week.


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David M Porter
12 January 2019 19:14:49


ECM at 240 hours....ouch. 


This cannot be ignored.



Originally Posted by: Gusty 


It looks poor on the face of it Steve for sure. However, my attention is drawn to the new HP cell emerging from the east coast of the USA which looks as though it could join forces with the Azores High cell in the mid-atlantic and cold lead to an even more potent N/NW blast later on. As I mentioned to Michael, GFS has been suggesting exactly this in one or two op runs over the last day or two.


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doctormog
12 January 2019 19:17:09


 


I think that is what a few GFS op runs in the last day or two have been suggesting happening during the week after next, after the initial colder blast from the north during the coming week.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


I do think there is a chance of alternating cold and less cold interludes, at least over the next ten days. How long and how mild the less cold interludes are depends on a few things and is unclear at the moment.


pdiddy
12 January 2019 19:18:27


 


It looks poor on the face of it Steve for sure. However, my attention is drawn to the new HP cell emerging from the east coast of the USA which looks as though it could join forces with the Azores High cell in the mid-atlantic and cold lead to an even more potent N/NW blast later on. As I mentioned to Michael, GFS has been suggesting exactly this in one or two op runs over the last day or two.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Spot on! it's this pulse of high that joins and drives up to Greeny in the ideal sceanrio.

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