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llamedos
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11 April 2020 05:38:35

Easter Saturday......


Even with  in excess of 1000 reported deaths in Brazil, Bolsonaro is dismissing the corona virus as "a little flu. This definitely looks like a catastrophe waiting to happen.


From the BBC:


 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-52251342


 


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Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 06:43:56


Easter Saturday......


Even with  in excess of 1000 reported deaths in Brazil, Bolsonaro is dismissing the corona virus as "a little flu. This definitely looks like a catastrophe waiting to happen.


From the BBC:


 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-52251342


 


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


 


Yes, it will be a case study of what   would have happened if we had gone for "herd immunity".


Bolsonaro is a pillock 


 


 


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Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 06:51:28


 
Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East Go to Quoted Post

"The germ has gotten so brilliant that the antibiotic can't keep up with it ... there's a whole genius to it ... not only is it hidden, but it's very smart."

*Covid19 is a virus not bacteria. Antibiotics only work on bacteria.#TrumpVirus@lbc #r4todaypic.twitter.com/Rspkfyb7OP



— I Am Incorrigible FCA (@ImIncorrigible) April 10, 2020


 
There really is no hope, is there ?
 
It's difficult to understand how someone could have got to that age, and into high office  yet still managed to maintain such an unblemished level of total ignorance over such an incredibly wide array of topics.
 



 




 


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Rob K
11 April 2020 06:56:13


Easter Saturday......


Even with  in excess of 1000 reported deaths in Brazil, Bolsonaro is dismissing the corona virus as "a little flu. This definitely looks like a catastrophe waiting to happen.


From the BBC:


 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-52251342


 


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


This pandemic doesn’t mix well with the current trend for right-wing “economy is everything” leaders, does it?


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Brian Gaze
11 April 2020 06:59:22

The problems with PPE continue. Can we yet call this a scandal?


Coronavirus: Doctors' lives at risk over PPE shortages, says BMA


A doctors' union has said many of its members are still not getting the protective equipment they need to treat patients with coronavirus.


The British Medical Association (BMA) said doctors were putting their lives at risk.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52252470


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Justin W
11 April 2020 07:00:57


The problems with PPE continue. Can we yet call this a scandal?


Coronavirus: Doctors' lives at risk over PPE shortages, says BMA


A doctors' union has said many of its members are still not getting the protective equipment they need to treat patients with coronavirus.


The British Medical Association (BMA) said doctors were putting their lives at risk.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52252470


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yesterday, the weasel Hancock suggested that there was not a problem with supplies but that the medical professions were using too much and when not necessary.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 07:13:46


 


Yesterday, the weasel Hancock suggested that there was not a problem with supplies but that the medical professions were using too much and when not necessary.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Be careful Justin you don’t want to be accused of incencent whining. 


Mark
Beckton, E London
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Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 07:15:10


The problems with PPE continue. Can we yet call this a scandal?


Coronavirus: Doctors' lives at risk over PPE shortages, says BMA


A doctors' union has said many of its members are still not getting the protective equipment they need to treat patients with coronavirus.


The British Medical Association (BMA) said doctors were putting their lives at risk.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52252470


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I am pleased the BBC are today leading with this story. It’s becoming a national scandal. The frontline were promised this equipment weeks and weeks ago.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 07:19:55
Good to see the MSM addressing some of the points I raised yesterday evening.

Why care homes are the scandal among scandals during the Pandemic:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why-care-homes-are-the-scandal-among-scandals-during-this-pandemic-11971795 

Government must be 'completely honest' about COVID-19 deaths because 'we really don't know the full picture':

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-deaths-will-almost-certainly-pass-10-000-this-weekend-11971793 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gandalf The White
11 April 2020 07:30:58


 


Yesterday, the weasel Hancock suggested that there was not a problem with supplies but that the medical professions were using too much and when not necessary.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Quite rightly there was a highly critical response from the healthcare people at that ill-judged comment.  Pretty poor judgement TBH.


Maybe Hancock could be escorted into a COVID-19 ward without full protective gear so he gets a proper grasp of the fear involved.


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Gandalf The White
11 April 2020 07:33:43

Good to see the MSM addressing some of the points I raised yesterday evening.

Why care homes are the scandal among scandals during the Pandemic:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-why-care-homes-are-the-scandal-among-scandals-during-this-pandemic-11971795

Government must be 'completely honest' about COVID-19 deaths because 'we really don't know the full picture':

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-deaths-will-almost-certainly-pass-10-000-this-weekend-11971793

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Realistically was it ever possible to have sufficient stock and place sufficient orders to equip everyone with adequate protective clothing and equipment?  


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Justin W
11 April 2020 07:36:06


 


Realistically was it ever possible to have sufficient stock and place sufficient orders to equip everyone with adequate protective clothing and equipment?  


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Possibly when the Govt and its advisors knew back in January that a pandemic was starting.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
doctormog
11 April 2020 07:37:20
The demand is unprecedented and the supply will have increased massively but it is probably unlikely to be enough. The logistics involved are incredible to get adequate daily supplies to millions of people. The need is almost incomprehensible but for physical and psychological well-being must be met.
Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 07:42:22

My mum works in a care home with vulnerable people. Her husband had a transplant about five years ago and is in the high risk category.

She is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He can’t work because he is shielding and she has to work as they currently only have one wage coming in. She doesn’t feel protected and of course worry’s about her husbands health. They are currently living in a flat and haven’t been able to see each other properly for weeks.


This is why I worry about PPE and care homes.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
doctormog
11 April 2020 07:48:09

The worry is real as are the reasons for the worry, but the problem is the scale of the challenge is monumental and unprecedented. However there is no choice but to give it an unprecedented response along with everything else that is being done. It may be incredible but because of continual demand it is almost certainly never going to be 100% enough.


Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 07:53:55


The worry is real as are the reasons for the worry, but the problem is the scale of the challenge is monumental and unprecedented. However there is no choice but to give it an unprecedented response along with everything else that is being done. It may be incredible but because of continual demand it is almost certainly never going to be 100% enough.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I don’t disagree with this. As we know this is unprecedented. I think the government should spell this out. Ironically, I’d much rather hear the hard truth of where we are than sound bites and platitudes which we seem to get at these podiums each day. 


I think this where I let my frustrations get the better of me. Sometimes a rosier picture is painted than the reality. I’ve always though honesty is the best policy - however hard that is to take


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
11 April 2020 08:00:44

Coronavirus vaccine could be ready by September


 




Leading scientist ‘80 per cent’ sure drug will work


 





A vaccine against coronavirus could be ready as soon as September, the British scientist leading one of the world’s most advanced efforts has said.


Sarah Gilbert, professor of vaccinology at Oxford University, told The Times she was “80 per cent confident” that the vaccine being developed by her team would work, with human trials due to begin in the next fortnight.


The government signalled that it would be willing to fund the manufacture of millions of doses in advance if results looked promising. This would allow it to be available immediately to the public if it were proven to work.


 


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/coronavirus-vaccine-could-be-ready-by-september-flmwl257x





 

bledur
11 April 2020 08:03:04

The demand is unprecedented and the supply will have increased massively but it is probably unlikely to be enough. The logistics involved are incredible to get adequate daily supplies to millions of people. The need is almost incomprehensible but for physical and psychological well-being must be met.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 Yes but there are Pallet freight companies at a standstill due to lack of work so if it is transport logistics  why is not every freight company being contacted to see if they can help. I also think a lot of companies with the ability to tool up to make masks , visors , gloves e.t.c were not asked to help sooner.Once you are behind in a situation like this you are going to really struggle to keep up.

The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 08:04:12


Coronavirus vaccine could be ready by September


 




Leading scientist ‘80 per cent’ sure drug will work


 


 


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Will it work against all 3 strains and any future mutations?


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Justin W
11 April 2020 08:06:45


 


Will it work against all 3 strains and any future mutations?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Reading the whole story, the headline is an extremely optimistic interpretation. It suggests that HMG will simply buy millions of these before full trials have been carried out.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 08:06:52


 
 
There really is no hope, is there ?
 
It's difficult to understand how someone could have got to that age, and into high office  yet still managed to maintain such an unblemished level of total ignorance over such an incredibly wide array of topics.
 

 



Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


But a dead cert to be re-elected. He brilliantly uses these daily briefings to spend 2 hours trolling the liberal media and talking up the country. He tells lies but that doesn't seem to matter anymore!


"Sleepy Joe"  is nowhere to be seen and allegedly dementing 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
The Beast from the East
11 April 2020 08:10:22


 


Bolsonaro is a pillock 


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


Yes, but a very popular one! The plebs love him because he "tells it straight" 


People love being lied to by a populist comedian and given an easy target to blame their problems on. Why Boris is so popular and why Brexit happened!


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
roadrunnerajn
11 April 2020 08:24:28

After reading the posts above I cannot disagree with the comments regarding our present situation. My frustration and anger is that this was seen coming, you only have to look at when this thread was started to see when members realised something was happening.


If the government had just bought some of the kit as a precaution back in December/January and made some limited restrictions on flights we would not be in this situation. 
The above actions would not of destroyed the economy. I know these points have been made several times already but surely you would think that when you reach the pinnacle of high office this would be a case of common sense.


I know we don’t live in a utopian society and I suppose Trump is a clear reminder of that.


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Heavy Weather 2013
11 April 2020 08:31:10

Matt Hancock has confirmed the 19 NHS workers have died.


We thank them for their service on the frontline of this terrible illness


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
11 April 2020 08:34:21


 


Yes, but a very popular one! The plebs love him because he "tells it straight" 


People love being lied to by a populist comedian and given an easy target to blame their problems on. Why Boris is so popular and why Brexit happened!


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Well, maybe not for much longer as the Beeb article concludes:


The president's actions have incurred political costs in recent weeks, with his popularity falling in opinion polls. Nightly protests have also been held in Brazil's biggest cities, with residents banging pots and pans and shouting "Get out, Bolsonaro!"


 


There's an interesting summary of his exploits here:


https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/10/brazil-bolsonaro-sabotages-anti-covid-19-efforts


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.

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