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Gooner
11 April 2020 10:49:04


 


It is highly likely he will be for a period of time at least.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Ah - Thank you 

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llamedos
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11 April 2020 10:51:29


 


Zoom is perfectly secure but if you allow anyone to join your meeting then you are asking for trouble.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

I thought that was the whole point of Zoom.........you're not going to have a meeting with yourself unless you live at the Bates motel.

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speckledjim
11 April 2020 10:54:17


I thought that was the whole point of Zoom.........you're not going to have a meeting with yourself unless you live at the Bates motel.


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


If you read the article it was open to anyone to join i.e. the 12 digit id was provided on social media. I'm using it tonight with friends and only they have the id so only then can join the meeting

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llamedos
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11 April 2020 11:16:56


 


If you read the article it was open to anyone to join i.e. the 12 digit id was provided on social media. I'm using it tonight with friends and only they have the id so only then can join the meeting


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 

Had you said "just anyone" I would have understood  Have to say I didn't read that last bit, pretty stupid. Have thought about it I think the security issue I mentioned, was a disproven claim that there were security issues with the platform relating to hacking peoples personal data. Appears to have been just a groundless discrediting exercise.


Have to say I've used it several times after Chris' (Bugglesgate) suggestion in the Reasons to be Optimistic thread. Excellent especially if all participants have a fast internet connection 

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Gandalf The White
11 April 2020 11:30:49


 


Zoom is perfectly secure but if you allow anyone to join your meeting then you are asking for trouble.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


I'm told by a software security expert that it isn't secure; apparently like most large chunks of software it has vulnerabilities.  He told me his company won't allow Zoom on any computer in his home that is accessing the Internet, so clearly they must know there are risks.

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Gandalf The White
11 April 2020 11:37:58


After reading the posts above I cannot disagree with the comments regarding our present situation. My frustration and anger is that this was seen coming, you only have to look at when this thread was started to see when members realised something was happening.


If the government had just bought some of the kit as a precaution back in December/January and made some limited restrictions on flights we would not be in this situation. 
The above actions would not of destroyed the economy. I know these points have been made several times already but surely you would think that when you reach the pinnacle of high office this would be a case of common sense.


I know we don’t live in a utopian society and I suppose Trump is a clear reminder of that.


Originally Posted by: roadrunnerajn 


Just a point on the timeline: nobody was aware that this was a contagious disease until mid-January. Prior to that the Chinese authorities were stating that there was no person-to-person transmission.  


With the best will in the world nobody predicted what was going to unfold the second half of January. 


But I agree that we lost a month through poor decision-making.

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fairweather
11 April 2020 11:42:18


 


Why ?


That's not been proven has it?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


He's been tested as having the virus. So he is, as I said "probably" immune. If he's not there are going to bigger problems than we thought !!

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Ulric
11 April 2020 11:46:14


 


If you read the article it was open to anyone to join i.e. the 12 digit id was provided on social media. I'm using it tonight with friends and only they have the id so only then can join the meeting


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Zoom have admitted that the product has serious security problems.


Follow the news from https://isc.sans.org if you're interested.

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Gooner
11 April 2020 11:47:14


 


He's been tested as having the virus. So he is, as I said "probably" immune. If he's not there are going to bigger problems than we thought !!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Yes but assumptions shouldn't be made as there are reports that a previously infected person can suffer for a second time .


But I take your point you did say " probably "

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Brian Gaze
11 April 2020 11:48:03


 


He's been tested as having the virus. So he is, as I said "probably" immune. If he's not there are going to bigger problems than we thought !!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


 


Hancock tested positive. However, the symptoms he reported were more analogous to those of a common cold. As was pointed out at the time it is possible he was asymptomatic with corona. 

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fairweather
11 April 2020 11:49:56


Nurses in S Korea and the stuff given to ours. But Hey, the Sun newspaper front page is about a love message from Carrie to Boris, so who cares?


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Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Have you got a link to the source of those images? Might want to post on my Facebook.

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llamedos
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11 April 2020 12:04:30


 


I'm told by a software security expert that it isn't secure; apparently like most large chunks of software it has vulnerabilities.  He told me his company won't allow Zoom on any computer in his home that is accessing the Internet, so clearly they must know there are risks.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

And there I am wrong again 

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speckledjim
11 April 2020 12:18:18


And there I am wrong again 


Originally Posted by: llamedos 


Different 'experts' have different views. I've spoken to someone who works in IT and he tells me it is perfectly safe as long as you follow the security procedures that Zoom suggest. 

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 12:46:29


 


Different 'experts' have different views. I've spoken to someone who works in IT and he tells me it is perfectly safe as long as you follow the security procedures that Zoom suggest. 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


 


Yes, our lot have  OK'd it and they are usually uber paranoid.  I'm sure it does have vulnerabilities but using it for a few personal meetings isn't going to  be a problem.  I wouldn't advise using it for  co-ordinating a major bank heist  or  discussing  the countries nuclear deterrent .   I'll certainly carry   on using it as it's intuitive and always seem to work, which is more than I can say for Teams !!

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Gavin D
11 April 2020 12:49:14
Spain will start and lift one of the strictest lockdowns in the world from Monday with factories reopening and those who work in sectors including construction allowed to go back to work.
Gandalf The White
11 April 2020 12:53:47


 


You're forgetting he's probably immune himself now!


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Yes, he may be. But the experience would do him good either way.


When enough to people tell him to his face they they’re insufficiency protected maybe he’ll change his approach.


 

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fairweather
11 April 2020 12:55:31

Good news from Spain. Big drop in deaths again today. I would expect ours to start dropping in a few days time. If they don't it will be puzzling because the lag will be from well into the lockdown by then.

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Brian Gaze
11 April 2020 12:57:57


Good news from Spain. Big drop in deaths again today. I would expect ours to start dropping in a few days time. If they don't it will be puzzling because the lag will be from well into the lockdown by then.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Is the counting in Spain skewered by weekends like it is in the UK?

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Gooner
11 April 2020 13:01:49

Spain will start and lift one of the strictest lockdowns in the world from Monday with factories reopening and those who work in sectors including construction allowed to go back to work.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The WHO have warned today about relaxing restrictions too quickly , I hope Spain have got this right .


I appreciate that every government is all about economy but at what price 

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fairweather
11 April 2020 13:04:44

Our lockdown proper started on Monday 23rd march, so three weeks Easter Monday. I think we had about a week of "lockdown lite" before that. Is it still considered to be 23 days from transmission to death on average or was that from first symptoms? So I suspect there will be a small drop initially followed by a larger one then rapid drop off from when people really started to get serious - about the time Johnson went into hospital.

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Chidog
11 April 2020 13:04:50
Shocking diary from an NYC paramedic today on BBC. Attended twelve cardiac arrests due to COVID in one shift, all died at scene, not included in official figures as not hospitalised so not tested...

fairweather
11 April 2020 13:05:54

Spain will start and lift one of the strictest lockdowns in the world from Monday with factories reopening and those who work in sectors including construction allowed to go back to work.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Does this seem a bit too much too soon to anybody?

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Gavin D
11 April 2020 13:07:48
Scotland have reported 315 new cases and 29 new deaths

Northern Ireland have reported 128 new cases and 15 new deaths



Gooner
11 April 2020 13:07:55


 


Does this seem a bit too much too soon to anybody?


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Does to me , risky I'd say 

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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Bugglesgate
11 April 2020 13:09:44


 


Does this seem a bit too much too soon to anybody?


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


 


In a word, yes - but we will see.  Hopefully this time we will take on board the experience of others !!

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"

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