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squish
08 February 2021 09:23:12
06z ICON holds the block a little better than the 0z .
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GezM
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08 February 2021 09:27:21

ECM not quite as solid as GFS but still threatens a new cold blast from the east at 240 hours.

The GEFS set is really quite cold especially when you look at the 2m temperatures.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That is a big shift since this time yesterday on the GEFS. I've been monitoring the date that the mean 850 rises back above -5C for London in all of the runs. For most of the time it has been between Feb 11 to 13 but is now pushed right out to Feb 17. Admittedly there are still several mild options from Feb 13 onwards. Other models giving other outcomes too so extended severe cold is not in the bag yet by any means. 


Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)
Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)
Snow Hoper
08 February 2021 10:18:00
Not much difference between GFS 00z and 06Z upto 180hrs
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SnowyHythe(Kent)
08 February 2021 10:23:09
Another FI Easterly incoming?
Gooner
08 February 2021 10:31:33


Could be something from the NE 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
08 February 2021 10:34:50


Could be good 



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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
08 February 2021 10:46:53

May be an image of map and text that says 'Run: Sun 07/02 12Z T850 & Sea Level pressure 1008 10-10 Valid: Tue 16/02 0:00 -5 1000 1015 33 -10 515 1632 29 15 25 -15 21 15 1000 -25 1000 17 =15 1032 1024 -10 -15 1024 -10 -20 992 15 1016 1016 +0 1016 (c)2021 www.netwaather.tv 19 29'


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The Beast from the East
08 February 2021 10:47:01

Control is better than Op



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The Beast from the East
08 February 2021 10:49:18

Worth noting that GEM was awful again. Should be taken seriously as it predicted this spell first


 


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The Beast from the East
08 February 2021 10:51:11

Feels like Feb 1986. Cold but largely dry after the initial snow. I remember here, the snow stayed on the ground nearly all month. My snowman lived longer than any previous and any since. 


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The Beast from the East
08 February 2021 10:52:14

Total opposite to GEM with energy undercutting. Lets hope this is the right solution



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The Beast from the East
08 February 2021 10:54:49

just noticed that GEM control run totallly different to the op, so that is good



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fairweather
08 February 2021 11:01:08

Does anybody know why the showers in the north form well out at sea before moving inland whereas over East Anglia they don't appear till they hit the coast or grow inland? Seems quite a sharp dividing line between the two.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
CField
08 February 2021 11:02:31

Remember the wise old words of TVS weather forecaster Trevor Baker 


about Scandi Blocks "If it last for 7 will go on til 14, if it lasts til 14 goes on til 21....


 


Favourite snowstorm
Famous channel low
Dec 31st 1978
Hastings East Sussex
Foot of level snow severe drifting
Next day max temp -4 degrees Celsius
Quantum
08 February 2021 11:04:35


Does anybody know why the showers in the north form well out at sea before moving inland whereas over East Anglia they don't appear till they hit the coast or grow inland? Seems quite a sharp dividing line between the two.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Remenants of frontal system limiting height of convection. Orography generates shallow lift/convergence.


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
08 February 2021 11:04:50


JFF and deepest of FI 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


GezM
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08 February 2021 11:16:38



JFF and deepest of FI 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I'm liking your more cautious commentary Marcus 


Living in St Albans, Herts (116m asl)
Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)
Rob K
08 February 2021 11:19:22


Does anybody know why the showers in the north form well out at sea before moving inland whereas over East Anglia they don't appear till they hit the coast or grow inland? Seems quite a sharp dividing line between the two.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Is that a genuine effect? I thought it was just the range of the radar 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Gooner
08 February 2021 11:22:39


 


Is that a genuine effect? I thought it was just the range of the radar 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Me too 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


sunny coast
08 February 2021 11:34:54


Feels like Feb 1986. Cold but largely dry after the initial snow. I remember here, the snow stayed on the ground nearly all month. My snowman lived longer than any previous and any since. 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

remember it very well indeed and it went on till mid March with further snow at the start of that month . I was on a course at Hindhead 850 ft above sea level for 4 weeks and there was snow on the ground  axnd near or below freezing temperatures throughout 

MStewart
08 February 2021 11:38:39

I’m really enjoying model watching at the moment (not as much as lamplight watching on a snowy night but that’s for another thread)


GEFS0z has an increasing number of members indicating continuation of decent cold into the longer term, low precipitation indicates the scandi high being highly influential to our weather to me.  The members touching -15 don’t look as alone as they did a few days ago.


ECM ensemble also shows the UK between a scandi high and mid North Atlantic low pressure. It’s very interesting to see how this plays out and if we have any slider lows for that setup. 


I can’t help but smile ear to ear when I see the FI GFS 0z operational. That channel low is a sight to behold. I can’t help myself! Mustn’t get excited about that just yet


 


 


Mark
Twickenham
12m ASL
fairweather
08 February 2021 11:39:27


 


Me too 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Is the radar coverage less off East Anglia then? The structure of the streamers is completely different as well. Weaker and more diffuse. Those above the line are distinct clumps and more intense. I think I favour Quantum's explanation unless someone knows different.


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Rob K
08 February 2021 11:44:10



JFF and deepest of FI 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


The one true ring. My precious....


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Sevendust
08 February 2021 11:46:08


Feels like Feb 1986. Cold but largely dry after the initial snow. I remember here, the snow stayed on the ground nearly all month. My snowman lived longer than any previous and any since. 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Just posted about the similarities in my FB group. I was encouraged by the commentary on the CF forecast last evening

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