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David M Porter
11 March 2020 17:40:44

It is utterly irresponsible that we are allowing 3000 fans from a Covid hotspot to arrive for a game in a stadium at the same time that the originating city is banning such events because of spread. Who in the hell is letting that happen. It is too late now as the damage is done as these people are already here, but it is utter madness.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Quite agree. UEFA should surely have taken the decision a few days ago to either postpone the game meantime, or at the very least have it played behind closed doors.


Looks like money means more to UEFA than the well-being of football fans.

Lenzie, Glasgow

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speckledjim
11 March 2020 17:49:35
Italy does have a huge problem but we must remember that it is concentrated in 2 areas (Lombardy and Veneto). They account for 67% of all the cases. I'm due to visit Puglia in July, which is the same size as the south east of England, and it has 77 cases. The SE of England (including London) has 164 cases.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Ally Pally Snowman
11 March 2020 17:51:32


People will start to react themselves. Companies will react themselves (I suspect this is what HMG is waiting for). Panic buying followed by everybody just shutting themselves away. The lack of guidance from HMG on this is frightening. Are we heading toward a situation where HMG are so busy looking at the modelling that can't look out the window. Because that is what people will start to think.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


 


I'm pretty sure the measures will start to come in early next week. We will probably be 200 cases a day by then. If most people want the restrictions to start it will be easier for the government to implement. 

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John p
11 March 2020 17:55:52


 


Quite agree. UEFA should surely have taken the decision a few days ago to either postpone the game meantime, or at the very least have it played behind closed doors.


Looks like money means more to UEFA than the well-being of football fans.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Remember this is Liverpool, so there will also be about 5000 fans flying in from Norway.

Camberley, Surrey
The Beast from the East
11 March 2020 17:59:30


People will start to react themselves. Companies will react themselves (I suspect this is what HMG is waiting for). Panic buying followed by everybody just shutting themselves away. The lack of guidance from HMG on this is frightening. Are we heading toward a situation where HMG are so busy looking at the modelling that can't look out the window. Because that is what people will start to think.


Originally Posted by: warrenb 


The modelling is all about what is least damaging politically. Bring in restrictions when the plebs want them, so the govt cant be blamed for the inconvenience. But the problem is that its too late now. The virus is rampant, and only a tiny number are being tested on purpose to keep the numbers down


That quote Saint posted about the Mayor in the Jaws movie is so apt and sums up Bozo perfectly


The NHS is going to be overwhelmed with elderly people who cant breathe  in the coming weeks. Hundreds will die. But we got to see the Cheltenham Festival so its worth it


 

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The Beast from the East
11 March 2020 18:03:15

I have a washing machine repair man from Hotpoint coming next week. Will he now be banned when we go to delay? What will happen? Will I have to find someone who is willing to do it privately?


Most inconvenient and from a selfish point of view, I would like delay phase not to happen. I don't really care if I catch it as I will probably be fine. If not, then so be it. I don't have a life anyway


 

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Brian Gaze
11 March 2020 18:04:03


The NHS is going to be overwhelmed with elderly people who cant breathe  in the coming weeks. Hundreds will die. But we got to see the Cheltenham Festival so its worth it


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I decided not to do anything on TWO about Cheltenham this year and haven't provided any quotes / forecasts to the media. That's because IMHO it should have been cancelled. 

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speckledjim
11 March 2020 18:04:14


 


The modelling is all about what is least damaging politically. Bring in restrictions when the plebs want them, so the govt cant be blamed for the inconvenience. But the problem is that its too late now. The virus is rampant, and only a tiny number are being tested on purpose to keep the numbers down


That quote Saint posted about the Mayor in the Jaws movie is so apt and sums up Bozo perfectly


The NHS is going to be overwhelmed with elderly people who cant breathe  in the coming weeks. Hundreds will die. But we got to see the Cheltenham Festival so its worth it


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


That is complete crap, we've tested far more than most countries and have ramped it up from today. Neither is the virus rampant in this country

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Heavy Weather 2013
11 March 2020 18:04:56
I’ve just been reading the standard.

As was reported a few days ago - The St Patrick’s Day parade in Dublin was cancelled.

But guess what, we have the Mayor in the paper saying it’s going ahead as planned.

I’ve been doing my usual review of Facebook comment sections when a COVID-19 story is published. Nearly every comment now is about the government not doing enough.

Mark
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The Beast from the East
11 March 2020 18:07:00


 


 


 


I think she's been really unlucky, catching the coronavirus after years of living with mad cow disease.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



I was astonished that the Budget went ahead as normal. Anyone who has been in contact with her or her staff should not have been there, Boris should be self-isolating

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The Beast from the East
11 March 2020 18:08:54


 


 


That is complete crap, we've tested far more than most countries and have ramped it up from today. Neither is the virus rampant in this country


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Call after call to LBC today from people with the correct symptoms or know people with the correct symptoms, being refused tests because they haven't been abroad or in contact with someone from Italy


 

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Brian Gaze
11 March 2020 18:09:21
Former British Dr slams the UK testing regime:

I’ve had it. My friends have all phoned NHS 111 and they’ve all been told several times that as they haven’t been to an at risk area they can’t be tested and they should even self isolate.

These people are saying they are as ill as they’ve ever been, and they still can’t do a test.

The reason we’ve got relatively low numbers in this country at the moment is because they’re only been testing about 1,500 a day. I think the infection has been widespread for a month now.

They may be upping the testing but they haven’t put Ischgl on a high risk list, despite knowing about this for days. It is a massive cluster. Six of us have been back in Chichester going about their daily life. I suspect we’ll find a big cluster in Chichester two weeks.

The increase in testing is way too late. I think it was obvious six weeks ago that we should have been doing surveillance screening. Lives are at risk here.

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Arcus
11 March 2020 18:09:55


 


 


That is complete crap, we've tested far more than most countries and have ramped it up from today. Neither is the virus rampant in this country


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


"Rampant" might be rather overstating the situation, but it's certainly bound to be far more widespread than the testing numbers suggest.

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Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 18:10:36


 


Extensive reliance on modelling vs reality has got Cummings written all over it I'm afraid to say.


Originally Posted by: John p 


 


I would hope - and believe - that the CMO and his people are leading this, not Cummings and Johnson.


We seem to me to be treading that very fine line referred to by Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus when he spoke of balancing action against the wider considerations.


 

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The Beast from the East
11 March 2020 18:12:38

Tedros was clearly referring to the UK and US in his comments 


I think that will change at 7pm, but the delay phase likely to be half hearted and nothing as severe as most other countries


As long as the pub stays open, I don't care


 

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Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 18:14:15


I have a washing machine repair man from Hotpoint coming next week. Will he now be banned when we go to delay? What will happen? Will I have to find someone who is willing to do it privately?


Most inconvenient and from a selfish point of view, I would like delay phase not to happen. I don't really care if I catch it as I will probably be fine. If not, then so be it. I don't have a life anyway


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


You give him a mask and make sure he washes his hands thoroughly then vacate the kitchen until he's been gone for an hour and then wipe down the kitchen surfaces.

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speckledjim
11 March 2020 18:14:24


 


"Rampant" might be rather overstating the situation, but it's certainly bound to be far more widespread than the testing numbers suggest.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


Of course it is, same for every country. We can't test everyone who has flu like symptoms so have to choose carefully who to test.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


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Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 18:15:45


Tedros was clearly referring to the UK and US in his comments 


I think that will change at 7pm, but the delay phase likely to be half hearted and nothing as severe as most other countries


As long as the pub stays open, I don't care


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I doubt he was referring to the UK except in his comments about the need to tread that fine line between overreacting and under-reacting, having regard for those other important considerations.


 

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Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 18:18:26


 


 


Of course it is, same for every country. We can't test everyone who has flu like symptoms so have to choose carefully who to test.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 



It's been circulating for a while - there's no other plausible explanation for what we're seeing.


But, I say again, if it's been circulating unnoticed - like in northern Italy and California - then for many people it's not sufficiently worrying for them to seek medical assistance.


The focus must be on trying to insulate the vulnerable groups.

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The Beast from the East
11 March 2020 18:20:06


 


You give him a mask and make sure he washes his hands thoroughly then vacate the kitchen until he's been gone for an hour and then wipe down the kitchen surfaces.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I don't care if he has the virus. I just want him to come! I fear the company may stop call outs. I have paid the insurance cover

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Gavin D
11 March 2020 18:39:37
7th death announced in England

Ally Pally Snowman
11 March 2020 18:40:02

527 new cases and 18 dead today alone in Spain . The game tonight really needed to be behind closed doors. 

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Gavin D
11 March 2020 18:41:54
8th death announced in England - A patient in Warwickshire.
Gavin D
11 March 2020 18:45:25

Ally Pally Snowman
11 March 2020 19:00:21

497 new cases and 15 new deaths today for France. Huge numbers all over Europe today its ramped up a stage. 

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