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Sevendust
12 March 2020 16:46:59

All staff in my office just now been told to work from home for the next 4 weeks except for business critical activity requiring site attendance.

westv
12 March 2020 16:47:51

And let's not forget how and where this virus originated. Have the Chinese taken serious steps to try and prevent this sort of thing happening again?


At least it will be mild!
Chunky Pea
12 March 2020 16:48:59

Just incredible:


https://twitter.com/robertburke84/status/1238104890813173760


 


 


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12 March 2020 16:49:04


All staff in my office just now been told to work from home for the next 4 weeks except for business critical activity requiring site attendance.


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


The trouble is four month is more realistic and four years not impossible


doctormog
12 March 2020 16:50:36


 


Surely we won't know who has done better or worse until this is all over?


Originally Posted by: westv 


Indeed. We have many options and possibilities but very few certainties. 


Ally Pally Snowman
12 March 2020 16:52:51

FTSE down 10% , FTSE MIB Italy down 17%. Very real chance now of another 2008 financial crisis.  The too big to fail banks will be under pressure soon with falls like this.


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Gavin D
12 March 2020 16:56:19

New government advice includes;


If you have a cough or high temperature, however mild, stay at home and do not leave your house for 7 days from when your symptoms started


westv
12 March 2020 16:56:47


FTSE down 10% , FTSE MIB Italy down 17%. Very real chance now of another 2008 financial crisis.  The too big to fail banks will be under pressure soon with falls like this.


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


It was partly the banks almost failing that led to the 2008 crash not the other way round.


At least it will be mild!
Gavin D
12 March 2020 17:02:56

xioni2
12 March 2020 17:04:39

Johnson is so out of his depth.

Gavin D
12 March 2020 17:06:42
CSO: UK 4 weeks or so behind Italy and some other European countries

More than 20 patients on intensive care units could be 5,000 to 10,000 already infected
Gavin D
12 March 2020 17:09:46
Boris: Many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time.
Heavy Weather 2013
12 March 2020 17:10:19

I am sorry. But the government are not doing enough. Its pretty business as usual.


Unacceptable.


This weekend the St Patrick's day parade in London is still scheduled to go ahead. The premier league will carry on with hundreds of thousands of people moving around the country.


 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
12 March 2020 17:11:16
Breaking: Italy have reported 2,651 new cases and 189 new deaths

Total to 15,113 and 1,016 deaths
Heavy Weather 2013
12 March 2020 17:13:13

This is basically the advise:


"The most dangerous period is not now, but some weeks away, depending how far it spreads," he says.


However, new measures are going to be in place.


They include:



  • Staying at home for seven days if you have, however mild, a new continuous cough or higher temperature

  • Advise all those over-70s not to go on cruises

  • Advise against international school trips


Yet, they say we could have already 10K cases.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Roger Parsons
12 March 2020 17:16:48


flusurvey's weekly questionnaire is now available - plus an additional Covid-19 survey.
Do your bit. Add to the data.
Even if you have no symptoms your results count.
http://flusurvey.net



[Website is a bit slow at 13.00hrs - must be a lot of traffic.]



Roger


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


I've now done my ILI report - easy to do. The Covid-19 survey takes a bit more thought.


Given the interest here in this topic and the desperate need for current data I do wonder how many enthusiastic posters are actually contributing to this national survey. I only know of a handful - well done folks. 


TBH - if you are a UK resident and not contributing ...


Roger


 


 


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SJV
12 March 2020 17:20:22




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Yet we move to the 'delay' phase but reading what has actually been implemented today and it appears it is not nearly enough. Boris's own words seem to contradict the lack of action.


The number of cases is almost certainly "much higher" than confirmed 

warrenb
12 March 2020 17:23:07

Numeric modelling is no substitute to opening your eyes and seeing what is happening in other countries. We are stuffed.


 


No offence intended Q 


David M Porter
12 March 2020 17:24:30


 


Not all of us - those countries which took swift action to stop flights from affected regions and to monitor all incoming passengers and isolate those with temperatures and all those from affected regions, have done far, far better.


We should have stopped all flights to and from Italy ten days ago for example.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Indeed. Likewise, all flights in and out of China to & from elsewhere in the world should have been halted as soon as the existence of the virus became common knowledge in that country. If they had a government that genuinely cared about the well-beimg of its people and that of those in other countries, this would surely have happened and maybe, just maybe, the virus would not have spread to the extent that it has done.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gandalf The White
12 March 2020 17:25:04


 


 


Exactly right - those jurisdictions (notably Hong Kong and Singapore) which took action at the first sign of the virus have got it completely under control. The UK is on the same path as Italy and Spain. Just look at the graph Ulric posted earlier


Originally Posted by: Justin W 



Location: South Cambridgeshire
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Joe Bloggs
12 March 2020 17:27:34
Interesting that they only plan to test people who are in hospital.

Isn’t that very different to other nations?

Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Heavy Weather 2013
12 March 2020 17:28:44

This is what the CMO has said.


"If you calculate what that really means in terms of the total number, it is much more likely that we have between 5,000 and 10,000 people infected at the moment.


"That is still a relatively small number."


Smaller number he said, but no real action to stop that number growing. I am starting to struggle to understand why our approach is so different - I suspect the public at large are starting to not understand either. Its not being explained very well


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gavin D
12 March 2020 17:29:19
20 in ICU

Could be 5,000 to 10,000 infected already which means for the vast majority it's a very mild illness

CMO says overall mortality rate is forecast to be 1% or less. Higher in vulnerable groups. Lower in less vulnerable groups. 
Brian Gaze
12 March 2020 17:32:39

In the last couple of hours I have returned from Rovaniemi, Finland. We flew out to Helsinki last Thursday and the to Rovaniemi on Friday. Today we took the same route (so 2 flights) to get back to Heathrow. The trip was my 50th birthday pressie from Mrs G. On Wednesday 4th March we considered whether to cancel it but in the end decided to go ahead. Some of you may recall me saying I've not had a cold for 4 or 5 years. As it happens I developed a nasty one whilst we were in Finland. It didn't stop me from going on Husky Safari and snowmobiles as well as walking a lot. However, I intend to call 111 tomorrow (I won't be socialising or coming into contact with anyone apart from Mrs G before then). 


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Rob K
12 March 2020 17:33:44
I am struggling to understand why, given the reports coming out of Italy, the government didn’t impose far stricter measures several days ago. The economy is stuffed whatever happens. Let’s not allow the NHS to collapse too.
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