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Roger Parsons
13 March 2020 11:26:40


I have to admit that I liked the fact that the govt yesterday went against the public mood, let's see though what happens if things change at the frontline.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


I agree it does give a sense of real leadership in action, Xioni - at least for a while....


R.

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bowser
13 March 2020 11:27:41


I have been lambasted on TWO by some in the past for criticising the WHO. Well here is the respected commentator Ed Conway in the Times, shredding its response to the outbreak:


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/virus-has-exposed-the-weakness-of-who-5t7h089nc


"...


(WHO)


had neglected its core mission: to be an institution of last resort in a crisis no single country can fight.


The result was that in the early weeks of the crisis the WHO was too slow to declare a public health emergency. For all the good work being done by its officials, it has become clear that the institution desperately lacks influence. It is terrified of speaking truth to power. It is so strapped, so reliant on funding from big countries, that it cannot bear to call out the US for the speed of its response or China for its faults in the early weeks of the disease.


 


The WHO could and should be the ultimate authority and the ultimate resource for health security, yet much like the IMF in the early days of the (credit crunch) crisis, it needs beefing up. Perhaps that means more money. Perhaps it means creating a new independent body which could fight pandemics without fear of closure if it said something awkward to a superpower. Whatever the solution, this, like 2008, is a moment for world leaders to reinforce global institutions.


..."


Ed Conway is economics editor of Sky News


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Don't know for sure, but it feels like its politicised at the very top. Almost as if Tedros didn't want to upset the Chinese.

howham
13 March 2020 11:27:51
They could toss a coin to decide the remaining results!
Brian Gaze
13 March 2020 11:31:28

They could toss a coin to decide the remaining results!

Originally Posted by: howham 


They should allow the pools panel to adjudicate. In the 80s they were often far more entertaining than the footie itself.

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Brian Gaze
13 March 2020 11:33:22


 



I have been accused of hysteria on here for advocating the closure of borders, when that was indeed the only way to reduce the spread of the virus. But honestly Brian, the notion that the fittest and healthiest of young men could be at risk of dying from this is either trolling or a joke. I doubt that any young footballers will die from this, although a few of the more elderly managers could be at risk.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


At least there should quickly be a body of evidence to show whether or not Charlie helps treat the old Corona. 

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westv
13 March 2020 11:35:03


 


They should allow the pools panel to adjudicate. In the 80s they were often far more entertaining than the footie itself.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Does the pools panel still exist?

At least it will be mild!
Ulric
13 March 2020 11:35:06
Kensington and Chelsea overtakes Hertfordshire.

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xioni2
13 March 2020 11:38:38

Caz
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13 March 2020 11:39:12


I am supposed to fly in Milan in mid-May, it wouldn't surprise me if things were under control there by that time, but flights out of the UK were banned.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 

My daughter has said exactly the same!  She was due to go to Sicily on 9th May but is resigned to the fact she probably won’t be.

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Roger Parsons
13 March 2020 11:40:54

Vintage Gems!
Soap saves lives: adverts in the Guardian after the Spanish flu outbreak
https://www.theguardian.com/world/from-the-archive-blog/gallery/2020/mar/12/soap-saves-lives-adverts-in-the-guardian-after-the-spanish-flu-outbreak



Now wash your hands!
Roger

RogerP
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William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Charmhills
13 March 2020 11:41:17

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8108271/Chief-scientific-adviser-wants-60-percent-entire-population-catch-coronavirus.html


I must admit I don't pretend to understand this logic by the chief medical officer.


Build up natural immunity yes, but surely we need to slow it down as well.

Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Caz
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13 March 2020 11:41:47


My better half went to sainsburys this morning and apparently the supermarket was fully stocked except for hand sanitiser. That did surprise me actually.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 

Supermarket here fully stocked this morning except for beans!  

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xioni2
13 March 2020 11:42:33


 I have to be honest, I'm extremely concerned and stress levels are rising. Many people I've spoken to are also experiencing a deep sense of foreboding about what may happen. This feeling is very widespread and you are definitely not alone.


Originally Posted by: Ulric 


Easier said than done and I don't know your personal circumstances, but don't stress about this. Take reasonable precautions and enjoy each day as it comes.


 


 

Brian Gaze
13 March 2020 11:43:34

Vintage Gems!
Soap saves lives: adverts in the Guardian after the Spanish flu outbreak
https://www.theguardian.com/world/from-the-archive-blog/gallery/2020/mar/12/soap-saves-lives-adverts-in-the-guardian-after-the-spanish-flu-outbreak

Now wash your hands!
Roger


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


100 years on and little has changed. I actually have a suspicion (no evidence) that in a few hundred years time people will look back at us and see that our understanding of viruses and how they are transmitted was very very incomplete.

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westv
13 March 2020 11:46:01


My daughter has said exactly the same!  She was due to go to Sicily on 9th May but is resigned to the fact she probably won’t be.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


We're due to fly to Mallorca end of April.

At least it will be mild!
xioni2
13 March 2020 11:46:34

I love Italy and their passion for life and this video touched my sensitive soul.


 





Originally Posted by: xioni2 

Gavin D
13 March 2020 11:49:01
Breaking: Remainder of the Scottish football season postponed indefinitely.
Roger Parsons
13 March 2020 11:50:01

Breaking: Remainder of the Scottish football season postponed indefinitely.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


See the BBC link in Premiership thread...


R.

RogerP
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William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
Charmhills
13 March 2020 11:51:40


 



I have been accused of hysteria on here for advocating the closure of borders, when that was indeed the only way to reduce the spread of the virus. But honestly Brian, the notion that the fittest and healthiest of young men could be at risk of dying from this is either trolling or a joke. I doubt that any young footballers will die from this, although a few of the more elderly managers could be at risk.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Closing the borders worked in Russia back in January and they now have 0 cases and 0 deaths.


The 20 cases they did have, have all survived.

Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Maunder Minimum
13 March 2020 12:01:47


My daughter has said exactly the same!  She was due to go to Sicily on 9th May but is resigned to the fact she probably won’t be.


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Such travel has to be cancelled.


My sister and her husband who live in Belfast were due to fly to London tomorrow for their granddaughter's first birthday, but I have just spoken with her and they have decided it is prudent to cancel, despite it breaking their hearts to do so. Better to stay alive if possible.

New world order coming.
ARTzeman
13 March 2020 12:04:29

Paracetamol Packs of 32 capsules easy to swallow have risen to 99.0 pence. Up 20 pence in the last week. and that is from the local chemist. 





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Maunder Minimum
13 March 2020 12:05:17


 


Closing the borders worked in Russia back in January and they now have 0 cases and 0 deaths.


The 20 cases they did have, have all survived.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Not sure we can believe the stats from Russia :-)


But the clear evidence has been from the outset, that if you want to keep it out, you have to close and monitor all borders.


P.S. When Trump does this, everybody shouts about it, but it is the one sensible thing he has done so far:


"Several Latin American countries have halted flights as they try to slow the spread of the coronavirus.


Argentina said it would suspend for 30 days flights from all European countries, as well the US, China, Iran, Japan and South Korea, which have also been impacted by the virus.


Peru has suspended for an unspecified period of time all flights from Europe and Asia while Paraguay is cancelling all direct flights to and from Europe until 26 March.


Venezuela had already suspended all flights from Europe for a month."

New world order coming.
xioni2
13 March 2020 12:08:18


 Such travel has to be cancelled.


My sister and her husband who live in Belfast were due to fly to London tomorrow for their granddaughter's first birthday, but I have just spoken with her and they have decided it is prudent to cancel, despite it breaking their hearts to do so. Better to stay alive if possible.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


We are talking 2 months away and we don't know how thing will be then. It's more prudent not to do anything right now.


 

xioni2
13 March 2020 12:10:33


Paracetamol Packs of 32 capsules easy to swallow have risen to 99.0 pence. Up 20 pence in the last week. and that is from the local chemist. 


Originally Posted by: ARTzeman 


I don't understand the obsession with paracetamol in this country (and same with ibuprofen). 

Gavin D
13 March 2020 12:16:20
The Foreign Office has advised against all but essential travel to: Madrid, La Rioja and the municipalities of La Bastida, Vitoria and Miranda de Ebro.
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