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Gooner
16 March 2020 17:41:47

We are basically in a voluntary lockdown. I suspect HMG are trusting the people and if that doesn't work then the legislation will follow.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


More fool HMG then 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gavin D
16 March 2020 17:41:57

NickR
16 March 2020 17:42:58




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


In other words, they've dropped their ludicrous plan from only a couple of days ago.


Nick
Durham
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Roger Parsons
16 March 2020 17:45:49
Just been watching Boris' announcement on Co-19 - important to watch.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51917562 

Looks like I'm now under house arrest!
Roger
RogerP
West Lindsey district of Lincolnshire
Everything taken together, here in Lincolnshire are more good things than man could have had the conscience to ask.
William Cobbett, in his Rural Rides - c.1830
John p
16 March 2020 17:46:09

12 weeks of shield from all social contact for those working adults who are routinely advised to get the flu vaccine each year.

So that's me.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


Where did you hear that definition of the criteria (sorry just catching up)?  I’m routinely advised to get flu vaccine each year due to mild asthma.


Camberley, Surrey
Quantum
16 March 2020 17:46:56


 


More fool HMG then 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


May be based on behavioral science, that people are more likely to do something if they arn't forced or talked down to.


I've certainly seen people with 'this is murica, I'll do what I want' type attitudes (obviously this isn't just limited to the US).


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
speckledjim
16 March 2020 17:48:17
Tentative signs of an improving situation in Italy. Growth in new cases over the last 3 days has been 13%, 17%, 20%
Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
westv
16 March 2020 17:48:25
Why is there an assumption that a voluntary code won't work? Nobody can say it won't as they have nothing comparable to base it on. Maybe those that are complaining just like to complain.
At least it will be mild!
Quantum
16 March 2020 17:49:09

Out of curiosiy how many people had brexit stockpiles they are now going to go through? I started stockpiling in January but I imagine some of you would have started last year.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gavin D
16 March 2020 17:49:17


Where did you hear that definition of the criteria (sorry just catching up)?  I’m routinely advised to get flu vaccine each year due to mild asthma.


Originally Posted by: John p 


 


This was said during the presser


 


"People above 70-years-old, people who in adult life are advised to take the flu vaccine and women who are pregnant' should take COVID19 social distancing measures particularly seriously"


 


 


Basically anyone of the above need to take social distancing seriously until mid June at least


 


 

Quantum
16 March 2020 17:51:36

Why is there an assumption that a voluntary code won't work? Nobody can say it won't as they have nothing comparable to base it on. Maybe those that are complaining just like to complain.

Originally Posted by: westv 


It's probably part of a phased transition anyway.


An immediate blanket ban might start to leak at the worst possible time. A phased ban followed by the blanket ban at the peak may be more effective. Also an enforced ban uses more govt resources than a defacto ban.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
speckledjim
16 March 2020 17:52:16


Out of curiosiy how many people had brexit stockpiles they are now going to go through? I started stockpiling in January but I imagine some of you would have started last year.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I bought a bit of spare pasta, rice etc. but I’m not touching it as there is plenty of fresh food available.


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Gooner
16 March 2020 17:52:18

Why is there an assumption that a voluntary code won't work? Nobody can say it won't as they have nothing comparable to base it on. Maybe those that are complaining just like to complain.

Originally Posted by: westv 


Human nature 


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 17:53:45

We are basically in a voluntary lockdown. I suspect HMG are trusting the people and if that doesn't work then the legislation will follow.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


That is my view too. People who go to gyms, pubs, restaurants will be frowned upon and be social outcasts. However, the government needs to also consider how it will support all of the small businesses that won't survive without help.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Gavin D
16 March 2020 17:54:02
2 tests will be introduced

One for those in hospital to confirm if they have it or not

One for the community to test if people have already had it and not know.

NHS workers will also be tested
Arcus
16 March 2020 17:54:11


 


May be based on behavioral science, that people are more likely to do something if they arn't forced or talked down to.


I've certainly seen people with 'this is murica, I'll do what I want' type attitudes (obviously this isn't just limited to the US).


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Indeed. Can be backed up with enforcement if necessary. Some strange "U Turn" type comments, these measures were always on the table and that was laid out before, it was a question of timing.


Interesting the progress being made on a test for antibodies - that's the critical one to ascertain the true extent of infection, and no country has that yet. 


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 17:55:19


Out of curiosiy how many people had brexit stockpiles they are now going to go through? I started stockpiling in January but I imagine some of you would have started last year.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I didn't have stockpiles.


PS: I think I noticed in one of your posts that you have a gf. Can I ask why you bothered going through all that isolation stuff if she wasn't doing likewise? Not being funny but it sounds farcical.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Gavin D
16 March 2020 17:55:40
The National League has suspended all matches until at least April 3rd
Chichesterweatherfan2
16 March 2020 17:55:44


 


Don't worry - Richard will keep you entertained with daily updates from his Spitfire ;)


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


😂😂😂😂

NickR
16 March 2020 17:56:02


 


Where did you hear that definition of the criteria (sorry just catching up)?  I’m routinely advised to get flu vaccine each year due to mild asthma.


Originally Posted by: John p 


https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1239604480234139654?s=19


Nick
Durham
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NickR
16 March 2020 17:56:53


Out of curiosiy how many people had brexit stockpiles they are now going to go through? I started stockpiling in January but I imagine some of you would have started last year.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I had a pretty substantial Brexit stockpile. Some things had gone out of date, but most of it's still OK or the kind of thing that has BB date rather than Use By, so should be OK.


Nick
Durham
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westv
16 March 2020 17:56:55


 


Human nature 


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Obviously not. 


At least it will be mild!
Gooner
16 March 2020 17:57:07


 


That is my view too. People who go to gyms, pubs, restaurants will be frowned upon and be social outcasts. However, the government needs to also consider how it will support all of the small businesses that won't survive without help.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Certainly not by the owners of the establishments they are visiting 


people have been told not to panic buy but they do , as sure as eggs are eggs people will be out .


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


John p
16 March 2020 17:57:09


 


 


This was said during the presser


 


"People above 70-years-old, people who in adult life are advised to take the flu vaccine and women who are pregnant' should take COVID19 social distancing measures particularly seriously"


 


 


Basically anyone of the above need to take social distancing seriously until mid June at least


 


 


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Thanks, so I should be able to go out and about as long as I avoid close contact...


I have just cancelled our weekend break in the New Forest.


Camberley, Surrey
Quantum
16 March 2020 17:57:17

I'm starting to think the  'herd immunity' thing was a dire miscommunication rather than actual policy. A total foul up regardless.


 


The thing the govt really needs to be careful of is the lag in the forcing and the response.


When you apply a force to the system (for example the force could be banning mass gatherings, shutting schools, enforcing curfews, whatever) the system does not respond immediately. So HMG has to be really careful to anticipate both the effect of the forcing and the lag time. If the force is applied at the wrong time the consequences could be disastorous.


France, Germany and the rest of Europe just applied basically maximun force all at once. Efficacy aside, it is definitely a less sophisticated way of doing things. I can also believe that throwing the kitchen sink at the thing too early could backfire.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.

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