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Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 21:41:34


 


Which implies it was never feasible in the first place no matter how early in the piece. They'd have been better off selling the brief up front to innovation companies who may have devised a way to make these things in a more straightforward/quick way.


Originally Posted by: bowser 


Yes I agree with that. They had nothing to lose.

Brian Gaze
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Polar Low
16 March 2020 21:41:46

Hope Paul does not see that he will go potty what a load of bollocks


 






Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

The Beast from the East
16 March 2020 21:42:27

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

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xioni2
16 March 2020 21:44:25


 Germany has all along accepted majority infection - up to 70%. 


The evidence on models and now being somewhat backed up by Chinese evidence is that there's a potentially massive cohort of relatively unsympathetic cases that were not tested but still capable of transmission. There is not a test currently that can identify that antibody positive population (those that had it without symptoms), so there's no way of knowing how many people in any country are negative testers on current protocol.


 

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


I think that quote for Germany had been mis-reported by UK media, Merkel had explained the worst case scenario (up to 70% could be infected). Their measures though seem much more extreme than here, so I wouldn't say they are going the UK route.


Sure about your your second paragraph, who knows anyway.

Polar Low
16 March 2020 21:46:33

Just locked up bit later tonight as after school clubs, only change today is that every hour a member has to go around every hour of schools day to clean every single door or toilet handle and anything like access code that is used regularly.


still nothing instructions is unlock 6am


 

bowser
16 March 2020 21:46:35


Jesus wept. It appears the NHS is already down to the "useless" masks because FFP3s are running out. At least it took the Italians several weeks to reach this state.




'Not fit for purpose': UK medics condemn Covid-19 protection


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/16/not-fit-for-purpose-uk-medics-condemn-covid-19-protection


Doctors and nurses warn shortages of appropriate equipment may put NHS staff’s lives at risk




 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The global shortage has been in the news for the last 6 weeks. We are not unique in this predicament. Again, we need to re-align how we think about supply chains - relying on one region of the world for these things doesn't cut it anymore.

Arcus
16 March 2020 21:48:56


 


I think that quote for Germany had been mis-reported by UK media, Merkel had explained the worst case scenario (up to 70% could be infected). Their measures though seem much more extreme than here, so I wouldn't say they are going the UK route.


Sure about your your second paragraph, who knows anyway.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


I would hope that most would accept the 60%+ that I and some others have been talking about as being likely if not conservative (ughh) now for the UK. Otherwise I would seriously despair.

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Justin W
16 March 2020 21:49:09


 


OK - I won't go and support a local business. But I really do think the risk would be zero, since there are no reported cases round here and the pub is hardly heaving as it is.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Which goes to show that, for all your pontificating about closing borders, you understand very little about the nature of this virus.

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
The Beast from the East
16 March 2020 21:50:17

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 21:52:45


US sales of guns and ammunition soar amid coronavirus panic buying





 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/us-sales-guns-ammunition-soar-amid-coronavirus-panic-buying
 
 
Brian Gaze
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RobN
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16 March 2020 21:56:20




US sales of guns and ammunition soar amid coronavirus panic buying





 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/us-sales-guns-ammunition-soar-amid-coronavirus-panic-buying
 
 

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Well it's good to see they are queuing in an orderly fashion at the gun shops. At least until they get the guns. Could they kill more people than the virus?

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Essan
16 March 2020 22:01:57


 Well it's good to see they are queuing in an orderly fashion at the gun shops. At least until they get the guns. Could they kill more people than the virus?


Originally Posted by: RobN 



Fit, young, healthy, people with potential and a life before them? Yes 

Andy
Evesham, Worcs, Albion - 35m asl
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The Beast from the East
16 March 2020 22:03:16

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Heavy Weather 2013
16 March 2020 22:04:03
I’ve just spoken to a friend who works in a school and he said that a staff numbers are dropping as more and more staff have to self isolate.

I then saw an article on the BBC echoing this. It seems the governments had will be forced sooner rather than later.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 22:04:37




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


It's blatantly obvious the transition period will need extending by 12 months or more.

Brian Gaze
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xioni2
16 March 2020 22:05:44


 It's blatantly obvious the transition period will need extending by 12 months or more.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I hope the EU says no.


The Beast from the East
16 March 2020 22:06:05
Pub very busy now. Lots of young chavs who say “like” in every sentence and an expletive in every other. The future is looking bright with this generation. All totally oblivious to the crisis
Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 22:06:14

What's the guidance on gyms? I've taken a decision to stop going to mine for the foreseeable future.  

Brian Gaze
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The Beast from the East
16 March 2020 22:06:38


 


It's blatantly obvious the transition period will need extending by 12 months or more.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


treason

Purley, Surrey, 70m ASL

"We have some alternative facts for you"

Kelly-Ann Conway - former special adviser to the President
Northern Sky
16 March 2020 22:07:21


Schools will obviously have to close sooner rather than later if some of the (official?) reports about the virus spreading much more quickly than expected are true. The NHS is already close to collapse it seems. I expect a majority of parents will be keeping their kids at home within a couple of days if the government doesn't  close the schools.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Where is the NHS close to collapse already? In Leeds we currently have 20 cases tested positive and no cases requiring hospital treatment.


It may well happen but it's not the case at the moment.

Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 22:10:18


 


Where is the NHS close to collapse already? In Leeds we currently have 20 cases tested positive and no cases requiring hospital treatment.


It may well happen but it's not the case at the moment.


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Poor choice of words on my part because the problems are currently localised but see:


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/16/not-fit-for-purpose-uk-medics-condemn-covid-19-protection


and


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/im-losing-faith-in-the-leadership-a-doctors-story-coronavirus


 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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NickR
16 March 2020 22:12:21


 


Where is the NHS close to collapse already? In Leeds we currently have 20 cases tested positive and no cases requiring hospital treatment.


It may well happen but it's not the case at the moment.


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


There have been some pretty harrowing reports from the front line. I think - as in Italy - it depends on area. Looking at the death stats, there are is large % in London, 4 in one hospital just in the last 24 hours.

Nick
Durham
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RobN
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16 March 2020 22:12:56


What's the guidance on gyms? I've taken a decision to stop going to mine for the foreseeable future.  


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


There are lots of alternatives available. Go for a run in the beautiful Hertfordshire countryside - as long as you keep more than 2m from any other runner - especially if they are sweating or coughing.


Those who have stockpiled could always weight-lift trays of tinned stuff.

Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Northern Sky
16 March 2020 22:16:22


 


Poor choice of words on my part because the problems are currently localised but see:


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/16/not-fit-for-purpose-uk-medics-condemn-covid-19-protection


and


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/im-losing-faith-in-the-leadership-a-doctors-story-coronavirus


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes I see what you mean Brian. 

Brian Gaze
16 March 2020 22:16:45


 


There are lots of alternatives available. Go for a run in the beautiful Hertfordshire countryside - as long as you keep more than 2m from any other runner - especially if they are sweating or coughing.


Those who have stockpiled could always weight-lift trays of tinned stuff.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


 Yes I will be going running in my locality. I've also got stretch bands for strength training. Was just wondering what the official line was from the government.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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