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Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 20:57:17

This may have already been discussed (I’ve only been dipping in and out of these threads) but is it likely that once testing is widely available and the pandemic has passed through a large proportion of the population there will be some kind of certificate system to show that people have had the disease and are immune and safe to be out in public?

This is assuming of course that reinfection is not possible - something that seems not to be certain?

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


In the old days, a forehead tattoo might have done the job, but today a chip implant like the ones used on dogs would serve the purpose - an immune verification chip which allows you a free pass into clubs and pubs - "beep" and you are in :-)


New world order coming.
Bugglesgate
17 March 2020 20:58:27


The Romans had a vinegar-soaked sponge on the end of a stick


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


My sister suggested stoking up with immodium and only  having a dump once a week 


Other suggestions would be a shower head and  flannel - be OK if you rinse it well afterwards - probably


 


Chris (It,its)
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Essan
17 March 2020 20:59:10


 


I have read somewhere that no self-respecting Roman citizen would wipe their own bottom. That chore was done by slaves.


Originally Posted by: RobN 



This is why the Scots have never forgiven the English.  We had slaves wiping our bums with sponges, whereas they had to use spagnum moss and do it themselves


Andy
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Maunder Minimum
17 March 2020 21:01:26


First human trials have begun first was a 43 year old mother


Phase 1


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51906604


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


Indeed - they have some guinea pigs lined up - but it does not amount to the kind of trial which would licence to mass market.


From the BBC article you linked to:


"Experts say it will still take many months to know if this vaccine, or others also in research, will work. "


There is zero chance of a mass market vaccine being available by the autumn - if we are very lucky, we could get there by February or March next year - that is why it is hugely irresponsible to get people's hopes up. At least the statement should be qualified by stating where they imagine we will have got to by the autumn - that will probably be when large scale trials of a proto-vaccine could start.


New world order coming.
Polar Low
17 March 2020 21:02:09


Readers' questions: Can I catch coronavirus again?


Question from Tanya Lucid






Tanya, from Kingston-upon-Thames, wants to know if she has coronavirus and has self-isolated for 14 days, is there a chance she could catch it again.


BBC Online health Editor Michelle Roberts says:


Experts say most people should develop immunity, at least in the short term, after they have recovered from coronavirus which means they shouldn’t catch it again soon.There is a chance that some people will get it more than once though




 



This may have already been discussed (I’ve only been dipping in and out of these threads) but is it likely that once testing is widely available and the pandemic has passed through a large proportion of the population there will be some kind of certificate system to show that people have had the disease and are immune and safe to be out in public?

This is assuming of course that reinfection is not possible - something that seems not to be certain?

Originally Posted by: Rob K 

Gavin D
17 March 2020 21:02:35
Tesco are closing 24-hour stores between 10pm and 6am for staff to restock the shelves 
SJV
17 March 2020 21:03:04


First human trials have begun first was a 43 year old mother


Phase 1


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51906604


 


Originally Posted by: Polar Low 


From the BBC article: "But even if these initial safety tests go well, it could still take up to 18 months for any potential vaccine to become available for the public."


Cause for hope yes, but it seems the idea of a pre-winter vaccine is fanciful. 

Rob K
17 March 2020 21:04:14

Never understood this modern obsession with hugging (are you really that cold?) and kissing people because you haven;t seen then for 3 hours ..... So if this ends that I for one will be quite happy!

Not fussed if handshakes end either. I never carry a weapon, so what's the point?

Originally Posted by: Essan 


I had the impression you lived in a remote cave somewhere, far away from other humans, anyway? :)


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Essan
17 March 2020 21:09:46


 I had the impression you lived in a remote cave somewhere, far away from other humans, anyway? :)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 



Yes, but sometimes I am forced to come out ....  



What's wrong with just saying hello?   Humans don't make sense!


 


 


Andy
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chelseagirl
17 March 2020 21:11:07

Just a question here.  Should it become possible and easy to test if someone has antibodies can they then donate blood, which is then used in a transfusion therefore passing the antibodies on?


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
doctormog
17 March 2020 21:14:52


Just a question here.  Should it become possible and easy to test if someone has antibodies can they then donate blood, which is then used in a transfusion therefore passing the antibodies on?


Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 


Unfortunately it is not really likely. It may give brief protection but nothing more.


springsunshine
17 March 2020 21:16:54

Tesco are closing 24-hour stores between 10pm and 6am for staff to restock the shelves 

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Time to bring back rationing books.

RobN
  • RobN
  • Advanced Member
17 March 2020 21:24:53


 


Time to bring back rationing books.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


I still have mine from the early 1950s - I wonder if the coupons will still work.


(Believe it or not rationing of some goods was still in place 9 years after the war ended.)


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
chelseagirl
17 March 2020 21:27:24


 


Unfortunately it is not really likely. It may give brief protection but nothing more.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


just wondered! Answers my question. TY


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
Gavin D
17 March 2020 21:29:25

Arcus
17 March 2020 21:32:22

I've now had a full debrief on the science. My last post on the subject now as I've chosen to drink quite heavily. Please don't be complacent. Good news - there might be a chance are we're already up to near 20m+ (virus has been here since Dec19, undiagnosed deaths etc.), but we need to push for antibody tests. Do not push for the viral tests. Worthless.


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Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
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Saint Snow
17 March 2020 21:33:40


 


Unfortunately it is not really likely. It may give brief protection but nothing more.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


So what you're saying is that Hollywood has lied to us. 




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xioni2
17 March 2020 21:41:14

Never understood this modern obsession with hugging (are you really that cold?) and kissing people because you haven;t seen then for 3 hours ..... So if this ends that I for one will be quite happy!

Not fussed if handshakes end either. I never carry a weapon, so what's the point?

Originally Posted by: Essan 


  


It's a problem every time I visit Greece or Italy, people hug and kiss too often even if only they saw each other yesterday. Handshakes should be abolished too. 

Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 21:42:43


Quote from part one of this thread:


 


So good luck to him in the pub winging to his socialist mates about the lack of govt help to sufferers of this non-problem.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


I think Beast is a socialist and his mates are right wing nationalists. Your point is valid regardless.


Brian Gaze
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Rob K
17 March 2020 21:48:26
I’ve been very impressed by the reaction from people offering to volunteer to help people who will be isolating. In my own town a group has already formed to co-ordinate efforts, and I have just had a reply from the local council in Devon, where my parents live, to my enquiry about how they can get help. Leaflets are being sent out to every house with phone numbers for volunteers who can help with shopping, errands etc.

However much the Tories try to kill it off, community spirit is still alive and well.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Whether Idle
17 March 2020 21:48:47

Shining a couple of weeks of isolation with the family what can go wrong Jack Nicholson


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Brian Gaze
17 March 2020 21:49:03


I've now had a full debrief on the science. My last post on the subject now as I've chosen to drink quite heavily. Please don't be complacent. Good news - there might be a chance are we're already up to near 20m+ (virus has been here since Dec19, undiagnosed deaths etc.), but we need to push for antibody tests. Do not push for the viral tests. Worthless.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


We're up to 20 million+ already in the UK? If that's the case surely there would have been a huge surge in deaths. Somebody is speaking bollox. Either your contact or the experts who are working on the mortality rate.   


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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doctormog
17 March 2020 21:50:02


 


 


So what you're saying is that Hollywood has lied to us. 



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I’m trying to avoid watching “Outbreak”. 


chelseagirl
17 March 2020 21:50:03

You can tell my mind is not being occupied with anything else tonight, but another thought. Is there any chance that electricity supplies may be interrupted, by lack of staffing to do whatever it is they do?


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
xioni2
17 March 2020 21:51:00


We're up to 20 million+ already in the UK? If that's the case surely there would have been a huge surge in deaths. Somebody is speaking bollox. Either your contact or the experts who are working on the mortality rate.   


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I guess he meant globally.

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