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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 06:38:55

Onwards..


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chelseagirl
20 March 2020 06:46:32

Well, having seen the list of key workers that schools have to stay open for, I would be surprised if the numbers of children attending school fell very much at all. 


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Gooner
20 March 2020 06:46:51

I wonder what delights today will bring 


Once the two girls have gone to school I'm going to try Iceland ( 08:30) then Sainsbury's if I have no joy , just looking for a standard shop , lets see what happens


 


I should imagine the weekend in these parts will be chaotic 


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Retron
20 March 2020 06:51:06


Well, having seen the list of key workers that schools have to stay open for, I would be surprised if the numbers of children attending school fell very much at all. 


Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 


Indeed, no wonder they asked everyone to come into work as usual on Monday.


It seems rather than try to stop the spread, the plan is instead to slow it down somewhat - it's inevitable it'll still be spreading amongst the hundreds of children I'd expect to turn up!


Meanwhile to answer Brian's point from the other thread, I wouldn't worry too much about high figures in the younger half of the population. It'll be because of the lack of testing - if testing were widely available, we'd doubtless see the percentage affected is several orders of magnitude smaller.


EDIT: The same applies to the overall mortality rate, of course. This stupid lack of testing is massively inflating the death rate figures.


Having said that, bear in mind we should be seeing over 100 deaths each day by this time next week, with several hundreds a day the week after that. Beyond that depends on how much contact actually gets cut... I'm not convinced there'll be a massive flattering of the curve given the mild measures currently in place.


 


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KevBrads1
20 March 2020 06:57:40

Breathtaking ignorance and arrogance, more concerned about their spring break being ruined. Trump's future voters.....


 "If I get corona, I get corona. At the end of the day, I'm not gonna let it stop me from partying”


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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 07:11:41

Police apparently patrolling supermarkets in parts of Australia to prevent panic buying. Seems to be working quite well. Why isn't that happening here?


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KevBrads1
20 March 2020 07:15:09


Police apparently patrolling supermarkets in parts of Australia to prevent panic buying. Seems to be working quite well. Why isn't that happening here?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The government needs to wake up to this as it is starting to become a serious issue. There are only so many drivers, so many delivery trucks and these drivers are restricted by law. They have to have their rest breaks by law.


 


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Retron
20 March 2020 07:15:47


Police apparently patrolling supermarkets in parts of Australia to prevent panic buying. Seems to be working quite well. Why isn't that happening here?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Too many supermarkets, not enough police?


(I daresay if one of the few policeman was patrolling our local Tesco, the burglars would be out in force!)


Edit: There are around 13,000 supermarkets in the UK (Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrisons, Asda, Lidl, Aldi and Co-op - others not included).


Do we have 13,000 (or 26,000 if they double-up) spare policemen? I think not: we have around 123,000 policemen in the UK as of last year.


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Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 07:21:10
So are schools effectively ‘open’. One wonders how long the situation will be sustainable for given self isolation.

Seems like another one of Boris Johnson’s half measures.
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Retron
20 March 2020 07:22:19

So are schools effectively ‘open’. One wonders how long the situation will be sustainable for given self isolation.

Seems like another one of Boris Johnson’s half measures.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I suppose the only good news about it is that it'll mean the virus will rip its way around the teachers and other school staff... so they''ll be immune for a few months sooner rather than later. (Just in time for the summer holidays, no doubt!)


EDIT: And when they're available to the general public, I plan to get one of those "have you had it" testing kits as soon as I can. I've had a slight cough for the past couple of days, coupled with that fever and sore throat.


I caught this thing from the head (who's my age, said it was a "chest infection" and not to worry as she coughed all over) and it took just over a week to show symptoms. The head had had meetings with the "executive" head, who works 4 days a week at our school and 1 day a week at a school with confirmed Coronavirus.


I'd dismissed all of that as a coincidence (after all, it felt like a cold coming on and I've had dozens of those), but the cough is unusual and even though my sore throat is easing I haven't become snotty as I would with a cold. Whatever this is, it's not a run-of-the-mill winter cold.


 


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KevBrads1
20 March 2020 07:29:07

Maybe supermarkets should now have special checkouts reserved just for the elderly and the disabled and just one checkout for selfish b@stards.


The checkout of shame.


 


 


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Essan
20 March 2020 07:29:27

I see Apple is doing it's bit to help curb panic buying - limiting customers to just 2 new iPhones at a time .... 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8132815/Apple-limits-number-iPhones-customers-purchase-faces-delays-coronavirus.html 


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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 07:34:19


I see Apple is doing it's bit to help curb panic buying - limiting customers to just 2 new iPhones at a time .... 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8132815/Apple-limits-number-iPhones-customers-purchase-faces-delays-coronavirus.html 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


It's interesting that countries which have more Android phones seem to have far fewer cases of the old Corona. Perhaps Apple is so aspirational even the virus wants to be on it. 


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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 07:37:02

"New data shows young people are falling seriously ill from Covid-19"
https://twitter.com/i/events/1240567679343353859 
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Jonesy
20 March 2020 07:37:15


 


I suppose the only good news about it is that it'll mean the virus will rip its way around the teachers and other school staff... so they''ll be immune for a few months sooner rather than later. (Just in time for the summer holidays, no doubt!)


EDIT: And when they're available to the general public, I plan to get one of those "have you had it" testing kits as soon as I can. I've had a slight cough for the past couple of days, coupled with that fever and sore throat.


I caught this thing from the head (who's my age, said it was a "chest infection" and not to worry as she coughed all over) and it took just over a week to show symptoms. The head had had meetings with the "executive" head, who works 4 days a week at our school and 1 day a week at a school with confirmed Coronavirus.


I'd dismissed all of that as a coincidence (after all, it felt like a cold coming on and I've had dozens of those), but the cough is unusual and even though my sore throat is easing I haven't become snotty as I would with a cold. Whatever this is, it's not a run-of-the-mill winter cold.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


wishing you a speedy recovery Retron, are you self isolating now?


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KevBrads1
20 March 2020 07:40:20

I mentioned this before but the difference between Spain and Portugal is incredible


Spain: 18,077 cases and 833 deaths


Portugal: 785 cases and 4 dead.


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Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 07:41:00

"New data shows young people are falling seriously ill from Covid-19"
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

">https://twitter.com/i/events/1240567679343353859


You’ve said it yourself - until a celebrity dies or a contestant off Love Island they won’t believe it.


Its too late for London now anyway. I think the damage is done and in 7 days the bodies will be piling up and only then when people have lost parents/grandparents will they realise that they have blood on their hands.


 


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Retron
20 March 2020 07:42:29


wishing you a speedy recovery Retron, are you self isolating now?


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


Thank you; yes, I'm on day 3 now (I had a rough Friday night into Saturday, but felt fine on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. The head thought I had a temperature on Wednesday - I did - and I was sent home. On Wednesday I had a sore throat, but that isn't on the list of self-isolate symptoms).


I still don't think this is Covid-19, but it'd be good to know one way or ther other.


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Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 07:42:30


 


It's interesting that countries which have more Android phones seem to have far fewer cases of the old Corona. Perhaps Apple is so aspirational even the virus wants to be on it. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Everyone loves a good conspiracy theory.


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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 07:43:52


EDIT: And when they're available to the general public, I plan to get one of those "have you had it" testing kits as soon as I can. I've had a slight cough for the past couple of days, coupled with that fever and sore throat.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I'll get one too but I hope they will be easy to use and reliable. Blood glucose home test kits are prone to error. They can easily be contaminated and readings can be very inconsistent. I realise testing antibodies is different but there are potential problems. 


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Retron
20 March 2020 07:44:03

"New data shows young people are falling seriously ill from Covid-19"
Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

">https://twitter.com/i/events/1240567679343353859


Still doesn't really mean anything - unless you test everyone with symptoms (impossible, pretty much) you will always have a high bias towards severe cases in hospitals.


EDIT: And given the 20-50 age group would be more socially active, more out and about and indeed are larger in number than the 65+ group, it's likely vastly more of them - percentage wise - are infected with the virus. It really skews the figures and I'd actually put very little faith on alarmist reports that young people are falling ill from it.


Yes, they are, but 0.1% of a large number is equal to 10% of a much smaller one!


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Ulric
20 March 2020 07:44:11
The mortality figures are very hard to disentangle. In particular, the disparate testing regimes and lag between infection and detection are confounding factors. I'm sure that the UKs figures are high due to preferential testing of the very sick - not including a sample of the population at large. The figures from other nations are distorted in other ways by their own local policy and it is impossible to get figures which are on the same basis.

On a personal front - we are socially distancing as we have been for 10 days now. I'm worried about my brother who has very serious underlying health conditions and is now under lock-down in California (he's lived there since 1984).
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DEW
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20 March 2020 07:45:08

Yesterday's Boris pronouncements were more sloganising than announcing practical measures. Maybe there's not much he can say but he used his usual bluster to conceal that.


Depressingly, from the BBC news "But there is a question mark over whether this immunity will last. Other coronaviruses, which cause common cold symptoms, lead to a very weak immune response and people can catch the same bug multiple times in their lifetime." If this is true you have to hope that once caught, subsequent attacks will be no more serious than the cold we all get each winter.


 


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speckledjim
20 March 2020 07:47:46


Well, having seen the list of key workers that schools have to stay open for, I would be surprised if the numbers of children attending school fell very much at all. 


Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 


In my daughter's class (yr 6) of 28 there are only 4 returning as far as I know. That may rise slightly but certainly not much


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Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 07:47:54


 


Thank you; yes, I'm on day 3 now (I had a rough Friday night into Saturday, but felt fine on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. The head thought I had a temperature on Wednesday - I did - and I was sent home. On Wednesday I had a sore throat, but that isn't on the list of self-isolate symptoms).


I still don't think this is Covid-19, but it'd be good to know one way or ther other.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Take care, Darren.


There are some weird symptoms around. I know a couple who have had a virus for about 10 days; both recovered now but waves of headaches and high temperature and feeling rough. They self-isolated. 


As these things hit people in different ways it’s very difficult to know what you’ve had. As you say, a test would be helpful a for peace of mind at least.


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