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SJV
22 March 2020 17:31:39


But the schools aren't closed , why on earth does he keep saying that  , the school at the top of the road has 300 children attending tomorrow 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Quite. We haven't as many attending my school but taken as a percentage of the total school population we'll have around 20% in and we're open for the foreseeable. 

Gavin D
22 March 2020 17:34:05
11,539 new cases in the USA already today.

They're rapidly closing in on Italy
doctormog
22 March 2020 17:38:38
We have (within the last hour) been told that our school is now closed to all pupils and staff from tomorrow. Pupils in the middle of frantically preparing coursework, based on the advice given on Friday, are now in a total state of limbo and increasingly stressed. The exams body have said along the lines of “we’re looking into it and will get back to you “soon” regarding certification and coursework” (despite saying they have had contingency plans for weeks).
Heavy Weather 2013
22 March 2020 17:41:01

We have (within the last hour) been told that our school is now closed to all pupils and staff from tomorrow. Pupils in the middle of frantically preparing coursework, based on the advice given on Friday, are now in a total state of limbo and increasingly stressed. The exams body have said along the lines of “we’re looking into it and will get back to you “soon” regarding certification and coursework” (despite saying they have had contingency plans for weeks).

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Doc I fear tomorrow this school closure will turn into a farce. 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
SJV
22 March 2020 17:43:53

We have (within the last hour) been told that our school is now closed to all pupils and staff from tomorrow. Pupils in the middle of frantically preparing coursework, based on the advice given on Friday, are now in a total state of limbo and increasingly stressed. The exams body have said along the lines of “we’re looking into it and will get back to you “soon” regarding certification and coursework” (despite saying they have had contingency plans for weeks).

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Wow! For that to come through on a Sunday evening is pretty mad. I'm sorry to read this Doc - many with their futures uncertain left in limbo as you say.


The less said about the exams body the better. I really hope they provide an answer soon. As HW says, there is a furore waiting to happen with all this.

four
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22 March 2020 17:44:14


Updated graph


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Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Weekend wiggle or slight flattening?


Gavin D
22 March 2020 17:44:41
Boris more or less said the UK could be days away from a full lockdown with curfews and restrictions on people's movements
Gavin D
22 March 2020 17:46:08
German Chancellor Merkel is in self-quarantine at home after a doctor she had contact with tested positive.

U.S. Senator Rand Paul has tested positive for coronavirus he is asymptomatic and 'feeling fine'

Retron
22 March 2020 17:46:44


Doc I fear tomorrow this school closure will turn into a farce. 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


It will be - but kudos to the Scots for closing entirely. Exams can, after all, always be taken at a later date, however stressful that may be - whereas we only get one go at slowing the spread of this thing. (Interesting how social distancing has yet again been emphasised by the PM; I'd bet there are tens of thousands of people in schools in England tomorrow not following that advice).


Meanwhile to counter the "OMG, someone in their 30s is seriously ill!!!" stories doing the rounds, here's one about the head of BT's experience. I think for people's mental wellbeing it's good to see these stories too. He's 53, for what it's worth.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/03/22/bt-boss-philip-jansen-first-felt-like-mild-cold-had-virus/?li_source=LI&li_medium=li-recommendation-widget


Philip Jansen has been lucky. “I actually had relatively mild symptoms,” says the BT boss down the line from his home in Devon. “I had a cough, a few aches and pains, a bit of a headache and even a few chills. But I never had a temperature. So I never felt at any stage that I was really unwell. I just felt that I was a little bit under the weather. I assumed I had a mild cold.”


Since the truth was revealed, Jansen has been self-isolating alongside his wife and three of their children. All have caught coronavirus, he believes, and all are recovering. The origin of the family outbreak is a mystery. Jansen, 53, had been on a ski trip with friends, “but not to a place where it existed”.


He was the first big business figure to publicly reveal he had tested positive, on Thursday March 12, after a few days of symptoms and meetings including one with the Culture Secretary and several of his industry rivals.


A week later he is on the mend, with a note of fatigue in his voice but no cough. Jansen has been working throughout his illness, he says, and plans to be back at BT headquarters in London on Monday.


 


Leysdown, north Kent
Gavin D
22 March 2020 17:49:31
An RAF Airbus 400M has landed in Sumburgh to evacuate a coronavirus patient to an intensive care unit.
Heavy Weather 2013
22 March 2020 17:50:17



Weekend wiggle or slight flattening?


Originally Posted by: four 


Testing has been fluctuating. Equally tests are taking up


to 5 days to come back. Total positives I think are not telling us if this is levelling off.


 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Darren S
22 March 2020 17:51:37


A week later he is on the mend, with a note of fatigue in his voice but no cough. Jansen has been working throughout his illness, he says, and plans to be back at BT headquarters in London on Monday. 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


On the mend - but could still be shedding the virus. Being back at BT HQ tomorrow is downright irresponsible.


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Brian Gaze
22 March 2020 17:54:23



Weekend wiggle or slight flattening?


Originally Posted by: four 


The fall in deaths is more promising. The numbers now should be at a level where there isn't a lot of noise I would have thought. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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RobN
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22 March 2020 17:57:20



Weekend wiggle or slight flattening?


Originally Posted by: four 


There was a slight flattening of the curve last Sunday (15th) too. Coincidence?


Unwise to infer a trend from the data from one day.


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
fairweather
22 March 2020 17:58:26


 


Betfair has a market on whether the Olympics will go ahead in July. “No” is currently the 90% favourite but you can still bank 10% on what IMO is a complete certainty. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Yes, I knew you would be able to rely on the betting industry to exploit misery. Have they got odds out yet on how many will die in the UK each day?


S.Essex, 42m ASL
roadrunnerajn
22 March 2020 18:01:13


 


Wait what? I get that people have emetophobia but that's pretty amazing to have gone so long without yakkin up  This coming from someone who is lucky to go a year without one erm... episode 


Anyway, to change the subject, here's Matlock today, on a lovely bank hol- oh wait it's f'in madness! 


 


Matlock Bath my old stomping ground. A magnet for bikers and day trippers in a 60 mile radius.



 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Germoe, part of the breakaway Celtic Republic.
Gandalf The White
22 March 2020 18:02:32


 


The fall in deaths is more promising. The numbers now should be at a level where there isn't a lot of noise I would have thought. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes, I'm cautiously encouraged. But I think we need to track a moving average over 3-5 days to allow for inevitable fluctuations.


This really is a time when the distinction between data and information is critically important. I know there's an urge to paw over every piece of data but raw data alone has limited value, IMO, because of all the uncertainties.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


doctormog
22 March 2020 18:03:49


 


Wow! For that to come through on a Sunday evening is pretty mad. I'm sorry to read this Doc - many with their futures uncertain left in limbo as you say.


The less said about the exams body the better. I really hope they provide an answer soon. As HW says, there is a furore waiting to happen with all this.


Originally Posted by: SJV 


Yes I agree with you both. I’m sure there is a better way to deal with this or at least some better way of communicating things.


And yes Darren you’re right that the exams can be taken at a later date, in fact that would be ideal. It is the lack of clarity and communication that is causing horrendous amounts of stress. Our senior leadership have been working all weekend on the logistics following Friday’s direct advice to get coursework done in the coming week only to be told on Sunday afternoon that nobody should be doing that. If they just made a clear, detailed concrete decision and stick with it, whatever it is, it would be better. The changing of approach at the 11th hour three times in five days is a disgrace and unfair to all involved.


Gandalf The White
22 March 2020 18:06:03


 


Yes, I knew you would be able to rely on the betting industry to exploit misery. Have they got odds out yet on how many will die in the UK each day?


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Oh, but the poor betting industry must really be struggling with no sport being played.


No doubt they're busy trying to dream up new ways to part punters from their money.


Maybe the number of posts in the TWO daily Coronavirus thread?


 


 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Gandalf The White
22 March 2020 18:08:58


 


Yes I agree with you both. I’m sure there is a better way to deal with this or at least some better way of communicating things.


And yes Darren you’re right that the exams can be taken at a later date, in fact that would be ideal. It is the lack of clarity and communication that is causing horrendous amounts of stress. Our senior leadership have been working all weekend on the logistics following Friday’s direct advice to get coursework done in the coming week only to be told on Sunday afternoon that nobody should be doing that. If they just made a clear, detailed concrete decision and stick with it, whatever it is, it would be better. The changing of approach at the 11th hour three times in five days is a disgrace and unfair to all involved.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Yes, the lack of a clear message is very poor. My brother has daughters doing GCSEs and A-Levels next term and was understandably irritated by this.


Even if the details haven't been worked out, it just needs a clear "Nobody will be disadvantaged by the decision to cancel the exams."


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Heavy Weather 2013
22 March 2020 18:10:02
The deaths today were of ages between 18 and 102
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Brian Gaze
22 March 2020 18:14:26


 


Yes, I'm cautiously encouraged. But I think we need to track a moving average over 3-5 days to allow for inevitable fluctuations.


This really is a time when the distinction between data and information is critically important. I know there's an urge to paw over every piece of data but raw data alone has limited value, IMO, because of all the uncertainties.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


This is the tracker I follow. Don't think it has updated yet to include the latest figures.


https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.upp-prod-eu.s3.amazonaws.com%2F3d6015ac-6bb2-11ea-89df-41bea055720b?fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=1260


 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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fairweather
22 March 2020 18:18:15


Meanwhile. At Tesco...


 




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


They need a police car driving slowly next to them with a megaphone saying that they are in the suicide queue! Seriously, if the government put in the right rules it is simple to stop this. But they still aren't. I was horrified to see Johnson have a s[censored]ing disparaging reaction to the reporter that asked him when the police were going to be involved. He went "police??" then laughed as if it was the most ridiculous question anybody could ask. Is he not seeing these images?


S.Essex, 42m ASL
Quantum
22 March 2020 18:22:59

Why is the UK death rate so high?


Lack of testing? Maybe. UK testing is high but it's only moderately high when looking on a per capita basis


Other countries not counting COVID deaths? Maybe. Germany might be doing this in particular with patients with comorbidities


Health care just not as good? Quite possibly. NHS just is not that good compared to the rest of Europe.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Rob K
22 March 2020 18:23:57


 


Oh, but the poor betting industry must really be struggling with no sport being played.


No doubt they're busy trying to dream up new ways to part punters from their money.


Maybe the number of posts in the TWO daily Coronavirus thread?


 


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I posted a few days ago the email I got from one such firm offering spreads on the number of times Boris mentioned certain buzzwords in his daily speeches. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome

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