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Rob K
23 March 2020 20:51:26


We went out as a family for a longish walk over the local fields this afternoon. We kept looking up at the sky and thinking it looked odd. Could not work it out - until it suddenly dawned - no contrails at all.


Originally Posted by: RobN 


I’ve still seen a fair few contrails here. We are under the main transatlantic route from Germany and France. Far fewer than normal, and a lot less low altitude traffic turning to land at Heathrow. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
chelseagirl
23 March 2020 20:52:32

I feel a little more reassured tonight. Am I wrong to feel this? 


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
Rob K
23 March 2020 20:53:06


 


The best performance by Boris by some distance: clear, sombre, serious.


He has gone up in my estimation.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I agree, I am no fan of him but he did exactly what was needed (finally!)


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 20:54:08

So many questions on enforcement though. At any point if you get stopped by the police, surely you can just say you’re going food shopping?

Originally Posted by: John p 


Nothing is enforceable unless the vast majority choose to do the right thing and behave properly.


Claiming you're going food shopping when you're not is just the same as what we saw at the weekend: wilful stupidity.


 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


John p
23 March 2020 20:54:45
I presume schools are now closing completely? They weren’t mentioned as an exception for leaving the house.

Camberley, Surrey
Gavin D
23 March 2020 20:55:14
The UKs lockdown will be reviewed again in 3-weeks which will be Easter Monday.
Rob K
23 March 2020 20:55:32

Given that the official numbers being released are not growing as fast as some feared, you have to assume that behind the scenes they know things are far worse than officially let on, to have taken this action.


Regarding people claiming they are going shopping when they are not, really why would they bother? It’s not like there is going to be anything to do anywhere!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Bugglesgate
23 March 2020 20:57:31


 


I’ve still seen a fair few contrails here. We are under the main transatlantic route from Germany and France. Far fewer than normal, and a lot less low altitude traffic turning to land at Heathrow. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Something has  stopped here -  No contrails over head the other night.  It was pointed out by my neighbour.  Looks like even our 2M distant chats will be  stopped as of this evening - maybe we can bellow out of the windows at each other across the road :)


 


There will always be some contrails though - loads of freight  goes by air.  Even if there are no passengers on the plane, some are still contracted  to fly becuase of what else they are carrying.


 


 


 


 


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
David M Porter
23 March 2020 20:57:36

As I think most people here will already know, I am no fan of Boris Johnson. That said, in my opinion, he has 100% done the right thing tonight.


If this proves be the difference between life and death for a great many people, then so be it. I for one will not complain for a second.


 


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 20:58:02

I presume schools are now closing completely? They weren’t mentioned as an exception for leaving the house.

Originally Posted by: John p 


No - schools will remain open for the children of essential workers as now.


For me and my wife, nothing changes with tonight's announcement - we were already doing everything asked of tonight. I am just glad that I was able to get a new set of tyres fitted to our car on Saturday, since the old tyres were right down to the legal limit.


 


New world order coming.
springsunshine
23 March 2020 20:58:18

 


I’ll be interested to see if the police have the resources to manage the new measures. My gut feeling is, in cities anyway, they’ll have their work cut out in the next few weeks.

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Indeed,and as ive said before its almost impossible to totally enforce,they don`t have the numbers. Are the police going to start randomly stopping vehicles and asking where are going and why??

westv
23 March 2020 20:58:31
What is classed as "essential work"?
This evenings announcement not unexpected.
At least it will be mild!
Gooner
23 March 2020 20:58:45

So many questions on enforcement though. At any point if you get stopped by the police, surely you can just say you’re going food shopping?

Originally Posted by: John p 


or to get fuel , its going to be difficult to stop


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Bugglesgate
23 March 2020 20:59:56


Given that the official numbers being released are not growing as fast as some feared, you have to assume that behind the scenes they know things are far worse than officially let on, to have taken this action.


Regarding people claiming they are going shopping when they are not, really why would they bother? It’s not like there is going to be anything to do anywhere!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


There was   some concern in the village that "herberts" would gather in the square and  drink beer as an alternative to other activities.


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Gavin D
23 March 2020 21:00:21


Given that the official numbers being released are not growing as fast as some feared, you have to assume that behind the scenes they know things are far worse than officially let on, to have taken this action.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


Maybe that's why they're doing it now to try and keep the numbers low whilst we hopefully 'flatten the curve' and prevent the NHS becoming overwhelmed.

Gooner
23 March 2020 21:00:31


Given that the official numbers being released are not growing as fast as some feared, you have to assume that behind the scenes they know things are far worse than officially let on, to have taken this action.


Regarding people claiming they are going shopping when they are not, really why would they bother? It’s not like there is going to be anything to do anywhere!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Good point 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


David M Porter
23 March 2020 21:01:27


 


No - schools will remain open for the children of essential workers as now.


For me and my wife, nothing changes with tonight's announcement - we were already doing everything asked of tonight. I am just glad that I was able to get a new set of tyres fitted to our car on Saturday, since the old tyres were right down to the legal limit.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Hi Maunder, have you & your wife been asked to self-isolate?


That was the advice given to me today from a doctor who phoned me from my local hospital; I am in one of the more at risk groups as I suffer from Inflammatory Bowel Disease which I was diagnosed with in 2007. The medication I take for this suppresses my immune system, meaning I am more at risk of catching COVID-19 than someone my age with full immunity.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
ozone_aurora
23 March 2020 21:02:54


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White

The best performance by Boris by some distance: clear, sombre, serious.


 


He has gone up in my estimation.


 




 



 


I agree, I am no fan of him but he did exactly what was needed (finally!)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 



I agree, too.

At long last!

Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 21:03:48


 


or to get fuel , its going to be difficult to stop


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I don't see any problem with people driving around - you are not going to catch or spread it in your car (providing any passengers are members of your own household of course).


The police will be monitoring places where people congregate to ask them to disperse if they do - cctv in most cities will quickly identify groups of people - keeping an eye on public parks and country walks will be harder naturally.


New world order coming.
Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 21:07:12

Excellent move by the government. The UK's u-turn is now complete and time has been wasted but better late than never. If necessary the army should be used to help the police enforce the new measures. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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John p
23 March 2020 21:07:33
I wonder if stores like B&Q will remain open? There’s likely to be occasions where people will need materials for emergency repairs on their houses, as an example.
Camberley, Surrey
David M Porter
23 March 2020 21:08:39


 


I agree, I am no fan of him but he did exactly what was needed (finally!)


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


In a way, it's just a pity that it took so long.


For me, the restrictions regarding outdoor movement that he announced last Monday should have been put in place at the beginning of March, when the government first admitted that there was likely to be a widespread outbreak of coronavirus across the UK. IIRC, the number of confirmed cases in the UK at this time was much lower than now. If those still hadn't worked then, a full lockdown should have been imposed a week ago.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
John p
23 March 2020 21:08:49


 


I don't see any problem with people driving around - you are not going to catch or spread it in your car (providing any passengers are members of your own household of course).


The police will be monitoring places where people congregate to ask them to disperse if they do - cctv in most cities will quickly identify groups of people - keeping an eye on public parks and country walks will be harder naturally.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Yes, I think the crux of this is to break up large gatherings.  There were about 20 teenagers in my local park today, none of them standing 2m apart.


Camberley, Surrey
xioni2
23 March 2020 21:09:15

Finally some decisive and clear measures from HMG and first time Johnson appeared prime ministerial. They are about a week too late, but it's much better to be late than sorry. Of course, the measures won't be enforced properly and in their totality, but they should still have a big impact slowing down the contagion.


I guess some people here might not like the measures because they see it like the govt treating us like children, but that's life.

Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 21:09:49


For me and my wife, nothing changes with tonight's announcement - we were already doing everything asked of tonight. I am just glad that I was able to get a new set of tyres fitted to our car on Saturday, since the old tyres were right down to the legal limit.


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


My car is scheduled for its MOT tomorrow. The garage is collecting and returning it. I'll be leaving the keys in the porch and then not using the car for several days after it is returned unless there is an emergency.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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