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23 March 2020 21:10:15


Excellent move by the government. The UK's u-turn is now complete and time has been wasted but better late than never. If necessary the army should be used to help the police enforce the new measures. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Construction workers are very confused however. If the building sites do not close, the tubes and trains will remain packed.


However I do agree. This is the step forward we needed.


 


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 21:10:30


 


Hi Maunder, have you & your wife been asked to self-isolate?


That was the advice given to me today from a doctor who phoned me from my local hospital; I am in one of the more at risk groups as I suffer from Inflammatory Bowel Disease which I was diagnosed with in 2007. The medication I take for this suppresses my immune system, meaning I am more at risk of catching COVID-19 than someone my age with full immunity.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Hi David, I think the issue is not your risk of catching it, which is the same as anyone else that behaves in the same way, but your impaired ability to fight the virus.


Please stay safe.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


xioni2
23 March 2020 21:11:17

I wonder if stores like B&Q will remain open? There’s likely to be occasions where people will need materials for emergency repairs on their houses, as an example.

Originally Posted by: John p 


I doubt they will stay open and I don't think they should.

xioni2
23 March 2020 21:12:44


 Hi Maunder, have you & your wife been asked to self-isolate?


That was the advice given to me today from a doctor who phoned me from my local hospital; I am in one of the more at risk groups as I suffer from Inflammatory Bowel Disease which I was diagnosed with in 2007. The medication I take for this suppresses my immune system, meaning I am more at risk of catching COVID-19 than someone my age with full immunity.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


I hope you stay safe David and I am sure you will as you are a pretty reasonable guy.

Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 21:13:54

One thing that remains a mystery to me is why construction sites in London are still open. Apparently a lot of the people using the tube are construction workers. Surely after today's announcement they should close immediately?


PS: I'm pleased to see that some of the people on my street who are having home improvements done have kicked out their builders and tradesmen. I'm told they didn't take kindly to it in some cases.


Brian Gaze
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Jonesy
23 March 2020 21:15:07
Can a tree surgeon still work with one other colleague? Not essential and will be self distancing so very confusing, what about building sites too?
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Gooner
23 March 2020 21:15:58

Good performance from Boris it has to be said - clearly the next step is Business's will shut in 3 weeks if this fails 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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SJV
23 March 2020 21:16:15


Given that the official numbers being released are not growing as fast as some feared, you have to assume that behind the scenes they know things are far worse than officially let on, to have taken this action.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


That's an interesting thought 

springsunshine
23 March 2020 21:16:42

I wonder if stores like B&Q will remain open? There’s likely to be occasions where people will need materials for emergency repairs on their houses, as an example.

Originally Posted by: John p 

 


In which case you call a tradesman!

Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 21:16:43


 


My car is scheduled for its MOT tomorrow. The garage is collecting and returning it. I'll be leaving the keys in the porch and then not using the car for several days after it is returned unless there is an emergency.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Good option, Brian.


Provided you wear gloves and have hand gel you should be OK if you absolutely need to drive somewhere but I understand the caution.


I've been eyeing our daily paper slightly suspiciously of late.  Probably an overreaction but I'm becoming hypersensitive to the risks.


Went to top up one of the cars with fuel today and someone said 'use the plastic gloves please'.  When I paid I used contactless and the guy kind of pushed the reader in my direction and then stepped back.  


In the local store people were being allowed in slowly so that there were only a handful inside the shop and everyone in the queue was keeping their distance.


We went for a walk this afternoon and saw just one family doing the same thing and only two or three cars on the road when there would usually be perhaps a dozen.


The message has got through here.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


xioni2
23 March 2020 21:17:52


PS: I'm pleased to see that some of the people on my street who are having home improvements done have kicked out their builders and tradesmen. I'm told they didn't take kindly to it in some cases.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I had asked eon to postpone my 'smart' meter installation today, but they were adamant they wanted to do it today, so I said fine, but they won't be allowed in the house and I talked to them via my mobile phone (they needed the power cut etc.). 

Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 21:18:07


 


I doubt they will stay open and I don't think they should.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Dead right. Take away the excuses.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
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David M Porter
23 March 2020 21:18:57


 


Hi David, I think the issue is not your risk of catching it, which is the same as anyone else that behaves in the same way, but your impaired ability to fight the virus.


Please stay safe.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Hi Peter, yes I agree entirely. I actually feel quite reassured now having had the call from my hospital than I did beforehand.


One issue which has been cleared up for me is that I am currently due to attend my hospital for a half-hour infusion of one of my IBD medications on Tuesday 7th April. The doctor I spoke to advised  that at the moment, it is still scheduled to go ahead as planned and the Medical Day Unit which will oversee it is, at the moment at least, still operating as close to normal as possible. If there are any changes between now and 7th April, they will advise me as appropriate. If I am required to wear a mask while there, they will get no objection from me.


Look after yourself, your family and all other people close to you. As one of Boris Johnson's predecessors once said, albeit in a very different context, "We're all in this together".


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Saint Snow
23 March 2020 21:19:13

Knew it was coming, and can't argue with the logic, but this has hit me hard.


I guess I'm not going into work tomorrow to get some stuff I really could do with to help work from home. Was the last day the office was going to be open. 


Feeling a horrible combination of numbness, panic, anger, worry. 


Quite what our economy is going to look like after this, I'm terrified to consider.


 


 



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springsunshine
23 March 2020 21:19:19


Good performance from Boris it has to be said - clearly the next step is Business's will shut in 3 weeks if this fails 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


In case you haven`t noticed most businesses are already shut!! Do keep up.

Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 21:20:07


 


Good option, Brian.


Provided you wear gloves and have hand gel you should be OK if you absolutely need to drive somewhere but I understand the caution.


I've been eyeing our daily paper slightly suspiciously of late.  Probably an overreaction but I'm becoming hypersensitive to the risks.


Went to top up one of the cars with fuel today and someone said 'use the plastic gloves please'.  When I paid I used contactless and the guy kind of pushed the reader in my direction and then stepped back.  


In the local store people were being allowed in slowly so that there were only a handful inside the shop and everyone in the queue was keeping their distance.


We went for a walk this afternoon and saw just one family doing the same thing and only two or three cars on the road when there would usually be perhaps a dozen.


The message has got through here.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


If Esso is an option they have an app which enables you to pay at the pump using your phone. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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23 March 2020 21:20:35


 Went to top up one of the cars with fuel today and someone said 'use the plastic gloves please'.  When I paid I used contactless and the guy kind of pushed the reader in my direction and then stepped back.  


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Refilled at Tesco today. Despite big notices saying Pay at Pump if at all possible, two or three prople went straight into the kiosk - though they may have been getting milk etc.


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Gavin D
23 March 2020 21:21:29

 


Non-essential shops which must now close include:



  • Clothing and electronics stores.

  • Hair, beauty and nail salons.

  • Outdoor and indoor markets, excluding food markets.


 
xioni2
23 March 2020 21:22:31


Given that the official numbers being released are not growing as fast as some feared, you have to assume that behind the scenes they know things are far worse than officially let on, to have taken this action.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


There is another way you can see it. Cummings changed his mind 10 days ago (when the modelling changed) and he started proposing 'shut down everything'. It then took him 10 days to convince Johnson by using lots of scary projections.

Saint Snow
23 March 2020 21:22:52

On top of that, learned tonight that a friend of ours is in hospital on a ventilator with pneumonia, got rushed in at the weekend. We were at her 50th last summer. She spent yesterday in resusc.


 



Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Gooner
23 March 2020 21:22:52


 


In case you haven`t noticed most businesses are already shut!! Do keep up.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


ermmmmmmmmmmm o wise one no they aint , we have a 600 customer base and no one is shutting until they are told 


 


PLEASE KEEP UP! and live in the real world 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gavin D
23 March 2020 21:23:12

The Met Police are not happy at all.

John p
23 March 2020 21:23:26


 


In case you haven`t noticed most businesses are already shut!! Do keep up.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


No they’re not.  Most office based businesses are being run from dining rooms across the country!


Camberley, Surrey
Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 21:24:58


Given that the official numbers being released are not growing as fast as some feared, you have to assume that behind the scenes they know things are far worse than officially let on, to have taken this action.


Regarding people claiming they are going shopping when they are not, really why would they bother? It’s not like there is going to be anything to do anywhere!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Sorry, Rob, there's no basis for that and it feels like unnecessary scaremongering.  More likely, like every other decision, they're being guided by the science.  In this case it's more likely to be 'this is what will happpen if we don't implement th we measures', not a case of 'this is happening'.  As Boris said this is being stepped up because of the stupid behaviour at the weekend by a minority who either haven't got the message or decided it didn't apply to them.


 


It's appropriate in this context to recount an interview I heard on BBC R5 last night with a lorry driver. He'd just gone eight days without a hot meal because everything on the mainland was shut down and had a hot meal on the ferry: lots of people sitting together eating. He asked a guy serving when he'd be wearing a mask and was told "it's all overblown, mate. This is all nonsense."   


That's what we're up against.


Location: South Cambridgeshire
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52.0N 0.1E


Maunder Minimum
23 March 2020 21:25:33


 


Hi Maunder, have you & your wife been asked to self-isolate?


That was the advice given to me today from a doctor who phoned me from my local hospital; I am in one of the more at risk groups as I suffer from Inflammatory Bowel Disease which I was diagnosed with in 2007. The medication I take for this suppresses my immune system, meaning I am more at risk of catching COVID-19 than someone my age with full immunity.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Hi David - no, neither of us has any underlying health issues we are aware of - we have just been following the advice given, keeping away from family and friends. Have had to make a couple of trips to the supermarket for essential items and to get the tyres replaced, but that is it.


Sorry to hear you have IBD - take care and keep safe.


New world order coming.

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