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xioni2
23 March 2020 22:11:36

In Greece if the police stops you and you say you go shopping, you must be carrying at least one shopping bag with you and then return to the same spot and show that you went shopping indeed.


No idea how strictly this is enforced though.


 

Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 22:16:55

White House live stream via Fox on YouTube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJ8t3SltVk


Trump talking about reopening the economy soon. Much sooner than the 3 or 4 months some people have been talking about.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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NickR
23 March 2020 22:17:06


 


My car is scheduled for its MOT tomorrow. The garage is collecting and returning it. I'll be leaving the keys in the porch and then not using the car for several days after it is returned unless there is an emergency.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I'd left my car on the street close to the garage today. Was planning on leaving it there for 3 days, but had to pick it up just now.


I wiped the key pretty thoroughly with a Dettol wipe and then gave it a once over with normal soap before drying it.... and I'm still worried because 4 hours later I took the key with a gloved hand and then adjusted my mask over the bridge of my nose with the same gloved hand.


Someone please tell me I'm being paranoid!


 


 

Nick
Durham
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Bugglesgate
23 March 2020 22:18:52


White House live stream via Fox on YouTube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJ8t3SltVk


Trump talking about reopening the economy soon. Much sooner than the 3 or 4 months some people have been talking about.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Sorry, I can't stand watching the bloke, so not clicking the link    What's he basing this piece of wild optimism on ?

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 22:19:56


 


Sorry, I can't stand watching the bloke, so not clicking the link    What's he basing this piece of wild optimism on ?


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 


He's saying the cure (closing down the economy) is worse than the medical problem.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Darren S
23 March 2020 22:20:02


The map in the New Statesman article below shows the number of cases per area along withe average infection rate per 100,000 people.


https://www.newstatesman.com/2020/03/live-data-coronavirus-crisis-all-you-need-know


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Thanks, great find! As well as showing the London boroughs with a high rate of infection, it also shows up Wolverhampton and Gwent as being real hotspots. Also, that Rutland, Orkney and the Western Isles are still on zero.

Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Bugglesgate
23 March 2020 22:21:49


 


I'd left my car on the street close to the garage today. Was planning on leaving it there for 3 days, but had to pick it up just now.


I wiped the key pretty thoroughly with a Dettol wipe and then gave it a once over with normal soap before drying it.... and I'm still worried because 4 hours later I took the key with a gloved hand and then adjusted my mask over the bridge of my nose with the same gloved hand.


Someone please tell me I'm being paranoid!


Originally Posted by: NickR 


That's it, you're doomed, Nick


PS


I would have thought the risk from doing that is infinitesimally small given the other precautions you have taken.


 

Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
"When they are giving you their all, some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy banging your heart against some mad buggers wall"
NickR
23 March 2020 22:23:33


 


That's it, you're doomed, Nick


PS


I would have thought the risk from doing that is infinitesimally small given the other precautions you have taken.


 


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 



 


I'm not sure the soap was on for the full 20 seconds... I'm not sure whether the soap at least does some damage to the virus before the 20 second mark.

Nick
Durham
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xioni2
23 March 2020 22:24:24

A new paper from UCL estimates that the HMG policy up to tonight (partial suppression policy with population-wide social distancing, combined with home isolation of cases, as well as school and university closures) would have led to up to 70,000 excess deaths in the UK. 


It estimates that ~20% of the UK population has at least one underlying condition associated with Covid and it asks for stricter measures.


https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/mar/new-estimates-excess-mortality-covid-19-suggest-stronger-suppression-measures-needed

Gavin D
23 March 2020 22:24:44
Businesses that can stay open

Supermarkets
Pharmacies
Newsagents
Hardware stores
Banks
Pet shops
Post Offices
Petrol stations
Vets
Retail shops in hospitals
Laundrettes
Funeral homes

B&Q and WH Smith have vowed to stay open

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52011915 
Phil G
23 March 2020 22:25:02


 


I think the economic fallout will be significant and for many people bigger than the impact from the virus. However the govt seems determined to help people and businesses and I think and hope they will take more measures.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


On the flipside, As and when we come out of this they'll be a number with a lot of money to spend as apart from shopping they have had nothing else to spend their money on.

springsunshine
23 March 2020 22:25:34


 


I'd left my car on the street close to the garage today. Was planning on leaving it there for 3 days, but had to pick it up just now.


I wiped the key pretty thoroughly with a Dettol wipe and then gave it a once over with normal soap before drying it.... and I'm still worried because 4 hours later I took the key with a gloved hand and then adjusted my mask over the bridge of my nose with the same gloved hand.


Someone please tell me I'm being paranoid!


 


 


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Take all reasonable precausions but starting to worry about every single action you take is not good for your mental health,we can all do as much as possible by following guidelines but don`t let it drive you mad or stress as that weakens the immune system.

Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 22:29:46

One of the amusing things about the White House briefings is the team all huddle round one microphone. It is quite ludicrous given the context. 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Joe Bloggs
23 March 2020 22:29:50


 


I'd left my car on the street close to the garage today. Was planning on leaving it there for 3 days, but had to pick it up just now.


I wiped the key pretty thoroughly with a Dettol wipe and then gave it a once over with normal soap before drying it.... and I'm still worried because 4 hours later I took the key with a gloved hand and then adjusted my mask over the bridge of my nose with the same gloved hand.


Someone please tell me I'm being paranoid!


 


 


Originally Posted by: NickR 


You’re being paranoid. :D 


Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL
Tractor Boy
23 March 2020 22:30:07

Businesses that can stay open

Supermarkets
Pharmacies
Newsagents
Hardware stores
Banks
Pet shops
Post Offices
Petrol stations
Vets
Retail shops in hospitals
Laundrettes
Funeral homes

B&Q and WH Smith have vowed to stay open

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 

">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52011915


 


So, does that rule out the likes of butchers and bakers that sell food? Most people around here rely on such shops for their ‘essentials’.

Dave
Farndale, North York Moors
xioni2
23 March 2020 22:30:52

Businesses that can stay open

Hardware stores

B&Q and WH Smith have vowed to stay open

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Give it a week!

David M Porter
23 March 2020 22:32:40


 


I think the economic fallout will be significant and for many people bigger than the impact from the virus. However the govt seems determined to help people and businesses and I think and hope they will take more measures.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Hi xioni


My real fear wrt the economy in the long run is that from some of what I am hearing, we could be facing the sort of situation again that we were not far short of a century ago, namely the Wall Street Crash of 1929 and the depression that came after it which lasted for much of the 1930s.


Even once the worst effects of this virus on human health have gone, whenever that is, I fear that the economic damage could take many, many years to repair, if full repair is even going to be possible.


Hope you stay safe and well!

Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 22:35:27

US currently doing 35,000 tests per day.


Self swabbing available this week.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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JHutch
23 March 2020 22:36:40

Conservative MP calls for Keir Starmer, if and when elected as Labour leader, to attend COBRA meetings, cabinet and number 10 briefings. Just one MP but will calls grow louder?


 



Darren S
23 March 2020 22:38:10


US currently doing 35,000 tests per day.


Self swabbing available this week.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Nowhere near enough, given they've got 5 times the population and they've got nearly 10,000 positives today.

Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
John p
23 March 2020 22:38:18

What about those country hotels with bars and restaurants.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Hotels must close.

Camberley, Surrey
Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 22:39:24


 


Nowhere near enough, given they've got 5 times the population and they've got nearly 10,000 positives today.


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


Self swabbing should be a big breakthrough if it becomes available this week as their lead Dr has just said.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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xioni2
23 March 2020 22:40:01

Thanks David, who knows really. 


Infection wise for the lock downs to work they need to reduce significantly the number of infections and then we need to know, isolate and contract trace every  single infection. The UK is far from this, so I imagine the lock down will last for many weeks.


NickR
23 March 2020 22:44:12


 


You’re being paranoid. :D 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


 


Love you, man.


 


 

Nick
Durham
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fairweather
23 March 2020 22:45:06


 


He's saying the cure (closing down the economy) is worse than the medical problem.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


......... till he's on his back in hospital with it. Then of course it will be different.

S.Essex, 42m ASL

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